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Old 08-31-2005, 10:09 PM   #91
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Its intersting, Uncertain:

Read this:http://www.crlp.org/pub_fac_abortion_laws.html

and this:http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/ib12.html (see what Im saying?)
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:22 PM   #92
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Ignorant????
No its not ignorance, its true, Im telling you what happens here in Brazil where abortion is forbidden- its illegal,( 1940 law allows public hospitals to perform abortions if the woman has been raped or her life is in danger) but you can see a lot of women doing that all the time in certain "clinics", by the way,abortion is a very expensive thing here.
Look I respect your opinion , but I CANT agree with that , being abortion ILLEGAL doenst mean it will stop.
Not sure why you CANT see that.

Also, Im not imagining that...its the reality...believe me...

Uggh, maybe it is the language difference that is stopping us, but look, I NEVER said all abortions would stop! You keep putting words in my mouth.

At the very least, abortions would slow down. You don't understand tha abortion rate in the U.S. it is LUDICROUSLY high. Even people who don't necessarily think abortion is an inherently moral thing often think there are too many. If it were to become federally illegal (although the chances of that happening are: %0), it would definitely slow thigns down.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:09 AM   #93
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Quote: Uggh, maybe it is the language difference that is stopping us, but look, I NEVER said all abortions would stop!


I dont think so...I got you all the time...not sure about you...

And of course you didnt say ALL abortions would stop...cause it would be IGNORANCE...
Quote: You keep putting words in my mouth.


Me? Are you crazy?

Quote: At the very least, abortions would slow down. You don't understand tha abortion rate in the U.S. it is LUDICROUSLY high. Even people who don't necessarily think abortion is an inherently moral thing often think there are too many. If it were to become federally illegal (although the chances of that happening are: %0), it would definitely slow thigns down

Maybe...my friend...maybe...
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:42 PM   #94
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This thread kinda got off track, eh?

Here's a simple question that seems to linger over our current presidents (as well as most cookie cutter christians) head...

How can you be pro war and pro life?

Many unborn children die during war, hell, many people die in war... Pro life should mean just that, either you're all in or step away from the table...

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Old 09-14-2005, 08:57 AM   #95
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Quote: (Originally Posted by HeavenBesideYou) This thread kinda got off track, eh?

Here's a simple question that seems to linger over our current presidents (as well as most cookie cutter christians) head...

How can you be pro war and pro life?

Many unborn children die during war, hell, many people die in war... Pro life should mean just that, either you're all in or step away from the table...

Heaven


I agree. By the way what exactly is a cookie cutter Christian? lol
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:20 AM   #96
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Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) I agree. By the way what exactly is a cookie cutter Christian? lol

I believe free children of God must shoulder responsibility, think for themselves, struggle, sweat, puzzle through things, and learn the hard way...

Cookie cutter Christians let someone else do their thinking for them.

It is very rare to find a church that is actually striving to allow the Holy Spirit to be the one to draw people and to work His good and pleasing will in their lives. Instead, we find churches trying to market people’s souls. Watch any church and you will hear people begging you to ask Jesus in your heart. They will tell you that you have purpose in Jesus and that you are of value in Him. You will not, however, hear people warning you against joining nor will you find people saying how they dare not join, but are compelled to anyway by the power of the Spirit!

In fact such a concept is totally foreign in today’s church...

Now read this;

Acts 5:13,14 No one else dared join them, even though they were highly regarded by the people. Nevertheless, more and more men and women believed in the Lord and were added to their number.

Most Christians I know are moving along in the current of popular opinion, popular culture, popular values, popular doctrines. Few people actually find a sense of self and inner validity that comes from their unique identity in God.

The ones that do are special and rare...

God is an artisan, not an assembly line.

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Old 09-15-2005, 09:45 PM   #97
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Most Christians seem to hide behind OSAS to justify their life styles... I find that despicable.

I think things like "Christian" acceptance of abortion, homosexuality and of course since I'm Catholic, contraception, are all examples of "Christians" jsut bowing to modern culture. Many of them are, I'm sure, well meaning and sincere but clueless also.
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:31 PM   #98
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Quote: (Originally Posted by HeavenBesideYou) This thread kinda got off track, eh?

Here's How can you be pro war and pro life?


Very good question!!!
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Old 09-18-2005, 04:37 PM   #99
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Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Most Christians seem to hide behind OSAS to justify their life styles... I find that despicable.

I think things like "Christian" acceptance of abortion, homosexuality and of course since I'm Catholic, contraception, are all examples of "Christians" jsut bowing to modern culture. Many of them are, I'm sure, well meaning and sincere but clueless also.

Well I think OSAS is once saved always saved...right? But waht is this real meaning of this? Only christians adopt this idea?

By the way, I also see catholics "accepting" homosexuality and contraception like examples of "modern life"...
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:58 PM   #100
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Well I think OSAS is once saved always saved...right? But waht is this real meaning of this? Only christians adopt this idea?

Lots of protestants hang onto this illogical notion.

Quote: By the way, I also see catholics "accepting" homosexuality and contraception like examples of "modern life"...

No you don't. You seeing people CLAIMING to be Catholics accepting them.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:14 PM   #101
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Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) Lots of protestants hang onto this illogical notion.



No you don't. You seeing people CLAIMING to be Catholics accepting them.

Well...I recall YOU saying you dont have problem with homosexuality... so ...arent you a catholic for saying that?
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She puts the color inside of my world"

Girls become lovers who turn into mothers
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