Manson's #1 (and that's a fact) [Archive]

Lechium

05-25-2003, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
tell me who´s holding the Billboard record:

-album debuting right at #1 on charts, keeping this position for 8 weeks in a row.

it´s a tie: The Beatles and Creed!!!!!!!!!! woo-hoo!

Both bands you mentioned are highly commercial. Manson is not underground, but not as commercialized as these two. Also he's less appealing to mass audience, that's why getting to #1 even for a week for him is bigger deal than for bands you mentioned.

2StappsSaviour: how? He has much bigger fan base than you might think..

Siana

05-25-2003, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by StappsSaviour
Manson is ok
but HOW DA HELL DID HE GET 2 NUMBA 1?

yeah,he's ok,and i'm not suprised he's at no.1 now

JenRN

05-25-2003, 09:25 AM

This does not say much for our society, YIKES!:eek: Oh well to be honest with you I could really care less about Manson, he is trash to me and always will be!:rolleyes:

TeriB19

05-25-2003, 10:35 AM

Same here Jen. Just my opinion Leech, don't get all pissy on me. Not trying to jump on your case.

Bridge of Clay

05-25-2003, 01:03 PM

creed is not commercial. If so, they wouldn´t be so hated. But I admit Weathered is much more radio friendly than the others, with lots of commercial appeal.

The problem is that if they had released Bullets and Weathered here, people would have a different opinion about them, more close to reality.

Unforgiven Fan

05-25-2003, 01:08 PM

manson, to me, is more commerical than Creed...just because he uses shock and mtv to sell albums

Lechium

05-25-2003, 02:19 PM

1) creed is a commercial band. They write catchy straightforward songs, they alwasy show their singer with no shirt to attract female audience, and all the things like that. Commercial does ot menqa bad, so stop denying the obvious.

2) Manson is somewhat commercial, yes, but to much lesser point. Most big bands use mtv/vh1 to promote (creed doesnt? rrrright) so there's nothing wrong there. His aesthetics scrare lots of people away, thus he's not highly commercial by no means.

P.S. Teri you'e hurn my feelings. Big time. I'll chainsaw your legs off now. There is no other way, sorry. lol

JenRN

05-25-2003, 02:53 PM

Lechium.... your find this humor of yours funny?:eye: Chainsaw your legs off hugh? nice touch:rolleyes: Here in the USA sick European dry humor is not comical, when will you learn this?:rolleyes:

Higher_Desire

05-25-2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Lechium
1) creed is a commercial band. They write catchy straightforward songs, they alwasy show their singer with no shirt to attract female audience, and all the things like that. Commercial does ot menqa bad, so stop denying the obvious.

By writing catchy, straight-forward songs doesn't make them commercial. By showing Stapp with no shirt on, in my opinion, is not a way to attract a female audience. Sure it probably helps, I won't deny that, but (even though I'm not into guys) I'm sure there's better looking guys out there than Stapp. He does it because he's comfortable doing it. There are many other bands that do things to attract people to them. Doesn't Manson do some pretty freakish things to attract people to him? I admit, I do like some of his songs, but the appeal he puts behind them with his stage antics really don't impress me. I prefer the songs to be more "straight forward" like Creed's.

Now, this is just a suggestion but, there is a lot of contraversy over Manson, especially lately with that case about him rubbing his butt on a security guard at a show, or something like that... but anyway, do you know what happened to the Dixie Chicks' album sales when they said that stuff about Bush? Their sales went up, and put them higher on the charts, because people were buying their albums and other merchandise so they could burn it. I wonder if the same type of thing is going on now? Even if it is, there is, I know it doesn't change the fact that he gets positive recognition from his record company. Just my :2cents:.

H-D

Lechium

05-25-2003, 03:52 PM

2Higher_Desire: I check Billboard charts every week, and trust me Dixie Chicks album plummeted after their anti-Bush stement.

Also if creed's not commerical rock band than who is? Really.

And Manson rubbed hsi crouch on sequirity guard like 3 years ago, so it's not "latley" and by no means it was a publicity stunt. Manson acts freaky to attract attention, yes, and also cuz he's trying to link visual and audio aspect of his music... he's really an experiemntal guy, and that's what I respect him for.

2JenRN: Euro humor kicks American's humour ass lol
Is only type humour you can handle are sex jokes from Friends and such?

JenRN

05-25-2003, 04:16 PM

Lechium..... Europeans have a dry, boring, brittle sense of humor sorry.

Actually I am a damn funny individual, I have a lot of friends who all we do is laugh about any and everything, I just find it interesting I guess that you are so touchy. Some things I find funny and some things I find just plain disrespectful and ignorant, this is how I view Manson, he is a jackass:rolleyes:

Lechium

05-25-2003, 04:23 PM

Humm why's Manson a jackass? What has he ever done to anyone?

P.S. you mind showing me your funny sude please?

JenRN

05-25-2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Lechium
Humm why's Manson a jackass? What has he ever done to anyone?

P.S. you mind showing me your funny sude please?
You just happen to stay out of the positive threads that is why you don't see it!:rolleyes:

Mr. Prophet Man

05-25-2003, 06:59 PM

the antichrist is #1...wow

jango

05-25-2003, 08:53 PM

Record sales do not reflect talent.

TeriB19

05-25-2003, 09:16 PM

Jen's right Leech, if you'd be a bit more positive and hang out in positive threads, you'd see she's damn funny!!! And a damn good friend too.

Sheila63

05-25-2003, 09:31 PM

Teri, you're so right. Jen is very funny and a great friend. Sorry Lechium, but I don't find some of your humor funny at all. Some of your comments are inappropriate. Just my :2cents:

Lechium

05-25-2003, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by jango
Record sales do not reflect talent.
aye
that applies to bands you like too you know.

goddess_bb

05-28-2003, 12:10 AM

Okay what is it with Manson..dude is not cute with or without the freak make-up and isn't he dating that french porn star or something..and she is quite lovely just goes to show money talks bullshit walks...
Lech-where the hell you from anyways??

JulieCitySlicker

05-28-2003, 12:16 AM

This just goes to show that our society has no morals if Manson is at no 1:eek: That is sad.

Lechium

05-28-2003, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by goddess_bb
Okay what is it with Manson..dude is not cute with or without the freak make-up and isn't he dating that french porn star or something..and she is quite lovely just goes to show money talks bullshit walks...
Lech-where the hell you from anyways??
Dunno.. could care lwss who dates who really. He used ot be married to the girl from Charmed thou.
I'm form SoCali. You?

Lechium

05-28-2003, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed
This just goes to show that our society has no morals if Manson is at no 1:eek:  That is sad.
"Friends" having good ratings is a pointer to how sad our society is, not Manson's CD being #1.

Steve

05-28-2003, 12:53 AM

Manson is that dude from The WOnder Years all grown up

(lol - remember that rumor?)

JenRN

05-28-2003, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Steve
Manson is that dude from The WOnder Years all grown up  

(lol - remember that rumor?)
Yeah I remember that! :lol: He's come a long way hugh?:P

JulieCitySlicker

05-28-2003, 03:19 PM

What is sad is that people actually like his satanistic music:rolleyes: And that voice of his would give dead people the shivers:eek:

Lechium

05-28-2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed
What is sad is that people actually like his satanistic music:rolleyes:  And that voice of his would give dead people the shivers:eek:
Manson's music is not satanistc.
creed's members are Christian, yet you guys keep on stating that they arent a Christsian band.
So if Manson is in Satanist church, that does not nessecery mean his music is Satanistic.

Xterminator27

05-28-2003, 10:33 PM

manson made a copy of that "sweet dreams" song. In teh music vidio, he had one huge puple one tiny one with no shirt and clocks hainging from his twisted hair as he chased chickens in a diper on his hands and knees..........

Nuff said

JulieCitySlicker

05-28-2003, 11:41 PM

I wonder what he wanted with them chickens:eek: ;)

goddess_bb

05-29-2003, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Lechium
Dunno.. could care lwss who dates who really. He used ot be married to the girl from Charmed thou.
I'm form SoCali. You?

Hmmm...I don't really care who he dates either and to make a point he did not marry the chick Rose Mc Gowen from Charmed I am pretty sure they were just engaged...I just think it is ironic in a way that a guy who goes out of his way to be unattractive gets really pretty girl-friends....

I am from Colorado...were you asking me?? :dunno:

jango

05-29-2003, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Lechium
aye
that applies to bands you like too you know.

Indeed, but I'm not posting entire threads attempting to validate my favorite bands by saying they're number one or have sold so many records. There is the difference.

TeriB19

05-29-2003, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by jango
Indeed, but I'm not posting entire threads attempting to validate my favorite bands by saying they're number one or have sold so many records. There is the difference. Leech, you could learn quite a lot from Jango. When he first came to the bb, we all mistakenly took him for a basher because he didn't fawn all over Creed like we all do. He simply stated that he is a PJ fan but still enjoyed Creed's music. He did NOT try to shove his opinions down our throats, he did NOT bash Creed, he simply stated his opinion, we all learned to get along and the rest is history. IMO, Jango is one of the most well-respected members of this bb and you would be wise to take notes. There is a way to get your point across, then there is you.

goddess_bb

05-29-2003, 12:13 PM

In Lech's defense and not to piss anyone off, I have to wonder if no matter how he says anything he is always going to piss off certain people off...he is entitled to his opinion and thoughts though sometimes we do not agree with him...he is none the less.
So why should he change, he is never going to win your approval?

Lechium

05-29-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by TeriB19
Leech, you could learn quite a lot from Jango. When he first came to the bb, we all mistakenly took him for a basher because he didn't fawn all over Creed like we all do. He simply stated that he is a PJ fan but still enjoyed Creed's music. He did NOT try to shove his opinions down our throats, he did NOT bash Creed, he simply stated his opinion, we all learned to get along and the rest is history. IMO, Jango is one of the most well-respected members of this bb and you would be wise to take notes.  There is a way to get your point across, then there is you.
So you telling me that Jango came here saying that he enjoys creed's music, and you took him for a basher, only cuz he said that he simply enjoyed creed, not that it was best band in the world? Kinda says a lot about you guys, now doesnt it?

2goddes: =P

TeriB19

05-29-2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Lechium
So you telling me that Jango came here saying that he enjoys creed's music, and you took him for a basher, only cuz he said that he simply enjoyed creed, not that it was best band in the world? Kinda says a lot about you guys, now doesnt it?

No I'm saying he did NOT come here saying he enjoys Creed's music, he gave us a different perspective on them and gave us his own opinions but not in a disrespectful troll sort of way. He made it clear that Creed is not his favorite band (PJ is) but he did NOT do it in the disrespectful manner that you do. You are definitely not a fan anymore and continue to post here to get a rile out of people. He continued to post here to let us know that he was NOT being a jerk, that he did respect the music, just not to the degree that the rest of us did. You, however, continually bash them and therefore deserve the trashing we give you.

And to Goddess, yes you are right, he cannot do or say anything that won't piss me off as long as he continues to post here because he is a self-admitted troll. You are right, he is entitled to his thoughts and opinions, but this is a Creed fan bb and not a Creed bashers board. He is a basher and therefore, will continue to piss me off. Sorry, no disrespect to you, but that's just MY opinion. This place is for fans of Creed, not for people to trash them, and where Creed is concerned that's all he knows how to do.

JulieCitySlicker

05-29-2003, 03:51 PM

You hit it right on the target Teri;) I couldn't agree more.

goddess_bb

05-30-2003, 01:00 PM

Fair enough Terri, You are also entittled..think it's time for a group...:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

I bet Lech is cringing something so corney in his thread...:lol:

JulieCitySlicker

05-30-2003, 01:03 PM

LMAO:lol: :lol: :lol:

Siana

05-30-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed
You hit it right on the target Teri;) I couldn't agree more.

yes Teri,well said ...as usual

goddess_bb

05-31-2003, 12:28 AM

Hey Lech!!!!!!
Wondering about something...indulge me...

Lechium

05-31-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by goddess_bb
Hey Lech!!!!!!
Wondering about something...indulge me...
yeah? ask away

GeeK_2004

06-01-2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Lechium
Manson's music is not satanistc.
creed's members are Christian, yet you guys keep on stating that they arent a Christsian band.
So if Manson is in Satanist church, that does not nessecery mean his music is Satanistic.

so....are you calling me Christian ??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Lechium

06-01-2003, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by GeeK_2004
so....are you calling me Christian ??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Umm? I said that creed's members, i.e. peope who are in the band, are christian, not fans.

The Lithium

06-01-2003, 02:06 PM

Stay STRONG with Creed and keep away STRONG from Manson!

goddess_bb

06-01-2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by extreme_LITHIUM
Stay STRONG with Creed and keep away STRONG from Manson!

First off Lithium, you are a really sweet guy...BUT I need to say that if you actually buy that far into an artist's music that you feel like they can keep you from doing or doing things..doll you need to get a grip...I listen to Manson, I listen to Creed..I Love Metallica but I do not let their music run my life...they do not keep me from listening to other things for example I am a HUGE Toby Keith fan..in case you don't know he is country...

The best thing to do is take these artists at face-value, they are as mortal as the rest of us...yes even Creed... I personally have read some things that shine Stapp in not such a nice light, he sounds like a concieted jerk.. does this keep me from listening to their cds...No. Don't let these people's manipulations..and that is what they are have that huge of a effect on your life... Manson is just a shock-artist and not a very good one at that..if he bothers you that much just forget him..he is not worth the energy...