What do you think of the "war" against Iraq?

Weathered · 02-08-2003, 12:36 AM

So what do you all think? i was watching Oprah today well my mom had it on.....and they had a big debate/discussion over this. Before each commerical break...they showed some interviews with citizens from around the world.....most of them disagreed with the war...and said its just a fight b/t Bush and Hussein. A lot of interesting reasons and points were brought up by different people in the audience of the show too. Right now i cannot remember too many.But one of them was......Bush is hurrying into this, and hes doing things too fast with out enough evidence.

But....the point i agreed with: The longer we wait to go in to Iraq, the more time we give Hussein to make weapons and prepare attacks on us.

Another thing was: Why is the US the only country stopping all this and going in there. Many other countries are saying war is not the answer and that there is a peaceful way. The only reason war is the answer here is b/c we have been trying to make peace for 12 years i believe....and it hasnt worked. But like they said, why are we the only country going in. Were not the only country Iraq hates.

Especially on the war on terrorism. Thats against basically the whole world, and we were the only country who went into Afghanistan to stop their government.

The last thing im going to say is: another audience member on the show today said he was in Kuwait as a journilist or something like that, and he was captured by Iraq. He was in there for 6 weeks and didnt know if they would kill him or not. Some of the soldiers told him they did not want to kill him at all and hated Saddam. He said the majority of the secret police he spoke to over there were like that. But few others would have loved to kill him, but were advised not to. Then, the guys mother wrote Saddam Hussein a letter saying she sent her son over there to learn more about and respect the Arab world. She said that if you dont let him out, you are only harming yourself b/c he is trying to respect your world. He was released the next day.

Anyway, post your opinions. Please dont change the subject.

krzycreedbabe · 02-08-2003, 12:45 AM

im pretty much against the whole war on Iraq, i beleive its only going to cause more problems...

Lady Valkyrie · 02-08-2003, 08:15 PM

Blow them all up and let God sort them out.

J/K

jango · 02-08-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Weathered
i was watching Oprah today  

Whoa... um... wow. Did you have a gun to your head?

Anyway, so as not to change the subject... the war on terror/iraq is a farce, plain and simple. I've spoken my peace about this subject, and won't bore you again, I'd rather let others voice their opinion.

Bridge of Clay · 02-09-2003, 12:14 PM

hmmm...

my opinion is this war isn´t the best thing to US right now, not the way things are being done... this way will only increase the hate peopla have for US...

A couple weeks ago happened the World Social Forum, in the south of Brazil. It´s outstanding to see how many people from all different countries hate US, and blame US for a lot of things.

And just to make it clear: I have nothing against USA. It´s a country I admire. So, please, don´t feel offended by me and don´t start bashing me, ok?

Lechium · 02-09-2003, 04:47 PM

What does this have to do with faith or religion?

Lots of people will die for no reason... well according to Bible God has fondness for such type of activities, but aside of that I see no corrolation between war in Iraq and religions.

Bridge of Clay · 02-09-2003, 06:18 PM

who said it does?

Lechium · 02-09-2003, 06:37 PM

This thread is about war in Iraq and it is in Faith/Religion section of bbs.

jango · 02-09-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
What does this have to do with faith or religion?

"Come to send, not condescend..." Eddie Vedder

I'd suggest that you attempt to incorporate faith/religion into the thread with your response. A reply that states "What does this have to do with (given topic)," serves no greater purpose than the supposedly misplaced thread.

However, there is a basis for this thread in this setting. Examine the war as it pertains to the region as a whole. Is there a greater religious conflict than the current Israeli-Palestinian struggle? I think not. A war with Iraq will only further escalate such hatred between christians and muslims in this region and perhaps abroad. This war with Iraq has incredible ramifications upon religion; moreso than any American war (save GWI) in the last hundred years.

This topic as a whole is extremely broad, and could be discussed in a multitude of settings, think before you speak.

Weathered · 02-09-2003, 09:59 PM

what jango said.....but

the reason its in here is b/c this forum fits in best......you tell me how this topic would fit the band forum or music matters? see

anyway jango....like i said my mom had it on she watches it almost everyday and iwas bored had nothing to do and i heard them talking about this topic so i watched it

jango · 02-09-2003, 10:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Weathered

anyway jango....like i said my mom had it on she watches it almost everyday and iwas bored had nothing to do and i heard them talking about this topic so i watched it

Not a problem, just flipping ya crap.

Weathered · 02-09-2003, 10:10 PM

lol i know.....anyway back on the subject....sort of

my friend told me he read in the bible.....it said "when brother turns on brother, God will come return to Earth"

this means when we (USA) turns on Isreal....then God will come....that is kinda freaky...but no one knows when that will happen

creedfan47a · 02-09-2003, 11:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
Lots of people will die for no reason... well according to Bible God has fondness for such type of activities

Where the heck do you get that from???

Bridge of Clay · 02-10-2003, 10:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Weathered

this means when we (USA) turns on Isreal....then God will come....that is kinda freaky...but no one knows when that will happen

no, dude... I doubt that´s the meaning...

"AND THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDON WILL BE PREACHED IN THE WHOLE WORLD AS A TESTIMONY TO ALL NATIONS, AND THE END WILL COME." - Matthew 24:14

We gotta study carefully the prophecies. Many signs will come: hunger, earthquakes, wars... but that´s only the beggining of the end.

Some people say when USA quits "Church/State" separation and allies with the Roman Catholic Church is one of the most important signs.

Since I didn´t go to Theology School, I say once again that we gotta be careful when studying the Bible and listen to the Holy Ghost´s voice.

Lechium · 02-10-2003, 01:07 PM

Bible was written by people. God inspired or not -- big question. So dont belive it word for word, or try to look for all answers there.

P.S. If Bible is the word of God, how can it be King James's version? =)

02-08-2003, 09:21 PM	#4
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Re: What do you think of the "war" against Iraq? Quote: Originally posted by Weathered i was watching Oprah today   Whoa... um... wow. Did you have a gun to your head? Anyway, so as not to change the subject... the war on terror/iraq is a farce, plain and simple. I've spoken my peace about this subject, and won't bore you again, I'd rather let others voice their opinion. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

02-09-2003, 12:14 PM	#5
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	hmmm... my opinion is this war isn´t the best thing to US right now, not the way things are being done... this way will only increase the hate peopla have for US... A couple weeks ago happened the World Social Forum, in the south of Brazil. It´s outstanding to see how many people from all different countries hate US, and blame US for a lot of things. And just to make it clear: I have nothing against USA. It´s a country I admire. So, please, don´t feel offended by me and don´t start bashing me, ok? __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

02-09-2003, 04:47 PM	#6
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	What does this have to do with faith or religion? Lots of people will die for no reason... well according to Bible God has fondness for such type of activities, but aside of that I see no corrolation between war in Iraq and religions. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

02-09-2003, 06:18 PM	#7
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	who said it does? __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

02-09-2003, 06:37 PM	#8
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	This thread is about war in Iraq and it is in Faith/Religion section of bbs. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

02-09-2003, 08:24 PM	#9
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Lechium What does this have to do with faith or religion? "Come to send, not condescend..." Eddie Vedder I'd suggest that you attempt to incorporate faith/religion into the thread with your response. A reply that states "What does this have to do with (given topic)," serves no greater purpose than the supposedly misplaced thread. However, there is a basis for this thread in this setting. Examine the war as it pertains to the region as a whole. Is there a greater religious conflict than the current Israeli-Palestinian struggle? I think not. A war with Iraq will only further escalate such hatred between christians and muslims in this region and perhaps abroad. This war with Iraq has incredible ramifications upon religion; moreso than any American war (save GWI) in the last hundred years. This topic as a whole is extremely broad, and could be discussed in a multitude of settings, think before you speak. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

02-09-2003, 10:01 PM	#11
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Weathered anyway jango....like i said my mom had it on she watches it almost everyday and iwas bored had nothing to do and i heard them talking about this topic so i watched it Not a problem, just flipping ya crap. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

02-09-2003, 11:41 PM	#13
creedfan47a USER INFO » Status: Brother of Mine Posts: 6,507 Joined: Nov 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Lechium Lots of people will die for no reason... well according to Bible God has fondness for such type of activities Where the heck do you get that from??? __________________ Married my man in November 2004 ...

02-10-2003, 10:04 AM	#14
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Weathered this means when we (USA) turns on Isreal....then God will come....that is kinda freaky...but no one knows when that will happen no, dude... I doubt that´s the meaning... "AND THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDON WILL BE PREACHED IN THE WHOLE WORLD AS A TESTIMONY TO ALL NATIONS, AND THE END WILL COME." - Matthew 24:14 We gotta study carefully the prophecies. Many signs will come: hunger, earthquakes, wars... but that´s only the beggining of the end. Some people say when USA quits "Church/State" separation and allies with the Roman Catholic Church is one of the most important signs. Since I didn´t go to Theology School, I say once again that we gotta be careful when studying the Bible and listen to the Holy Ghost´s voice. __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

02-10-2003, 01:07 PM	#15
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Bible was written by people. God inspired or not -- big question. So dont belive it word for word, or try to look for all answers there. P.S. If Bible is the word of God, how can it be King James's version? =) __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

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