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Old 12-17-2009, 07:05 PM   #1
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Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Firstly let me say I respect Scott Stapp now more then ever and as much as people have argued back & forth about his vocals it's apparent there's something up. If you want to flame me go ahead but I think the fans deserve an explanation and I think I've finally found one.

I got several comments on the MyContent ERock video on my Youtube channel (now removed), one of which was a guy saying he didn't really like how his voice blended with Scott's (fair enough) I took that as ragging on Eric, so he messaged me explaining the comments & come to find out he's a close friend of the guys. I replied with what about Scott's voice etc. so here's what he said was going on in the Creed camp... I'm not naming names (sorry) you're just going to have to take my word for it...I for one believe him 100%

"fyi there isn't anything "wrong" with stapp's voice.
For some reason the allergies he has always had, have
become really bad. They think he is ingesting something
his body that is highly hyper allergic to. The minute he is exposed
his airway swells almost double its normal size. And if you can't breathe
you can't sing. You could tell on some songs when he would sound fine
then suddenly nothing seemed to come out.
He got a episode of it very severe the beginning of the tour and then
it would subside, think about mid tour then started again later end of tour.
He also began chain smoking at the same time. going from half a pack to almost 2 packs A DAY ! LMAO bad on his part
Which is why some performances he sounded good and then others off.
They are looking into this all and working with top allergy specialist.
Looks like also going to use natural methods too.
But unless he stops smoking its all only half ass.

All that said, all the guys are proud of stapp for giving his all
while not being able to breathe. He did a damn good job.
They reference the breathing issue in the Creed DVD
If you know anything about this type of allergies, it is complete
misery for those who suffer with it."
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Makes sense I suppose. Hopefully he gets help. I never heard of him having bad allergies before.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:15 PM   #3
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Thanks for posting DK. I remember reading an article several years ago where he said something about being frequently sick as a child. That explaination sheds some much needed light. I hope he stays away from the smokes.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:29 PM   #4
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Quote: If you want to flame me go ahead but I think the fans deserve an explanation and I think I've finally found one.

I don't think that will happen here, more likely at ABB
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:18 AM   #5
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

They're just as receptive to the news over there as here
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:23 AM   #6
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

It's been a touchy subject for some reason, for those in denial anyway lol he'll improve no doubt about it, it's just a matter of staying away from smoking and solving these allergy issues. Scott deserves to be in top vocal condition now, he's finally changed his life around for the better.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:07 AM   #7
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Yeah, I've known about his allergies.....this isn't that surprising to me.
I still find it kind of hard to believe that they are so bad, that his voice seems to literally change....but it does make a lot of sense.

I knew it was a breathing problem for sure, but I still think smoking has a lot to do with that.....I just hope he recovers.
If we can't get 100% with Full Circle, atleast Stapp will be in ship shape come the next release and tour.

I hope he gets relief soon.
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:27 AM   #8
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

I'll always stand by Stapp regardless of his vocal abilities, but it's great to know that there's no real damage to his voice, and that he can recover.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:47 AM   #9
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

He needs to quit smoking, or his vocal problems are only gonna get worse!
He's got so much talent it's a real shame to let anything get in the way!
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:57 PM   #10
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

I know this sounds stupid but smoking isn't the main problem right now, it's the allergies. Sure it's making the problem worse but if he can't breathe then he can't stay on pitch plain & simple, he's been smoking for years which it's never hurt him before.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:01 PM   #11
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dark_Knight) . Sure it's making the problem worse but if he can't breathe then he can't stay on pitch plain & simple, he's been smoking for years which it's never hurt him before.

It helps his grit and screaming, actually.. lol
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:25 PM   #12
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Sound like a good explaination. I hope he gets well enough for them to make another cd soon. I love full circle and want more. If his voice is going to take a turn for the worse, make cds and tour later. Need atleast two more good cds from this group to put them on the preverbial pedistal. Plus, I'm just being selfish.
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Man. I was just listening to the Scott Stapp boots that were up on Alter Bridge band message board and Scott could still sing and growl like he did for the first 3 tours of Creed. He could almost do as well at Delray from what I could tell on the cleaned up versions of those few songs. I wonder what happened between Summer 2006 and Fall 2008. Even more so between Fall 2008 and the recording of Full Circle and the Summer/Fall tour 2009. He just doesn't seem to be trying any high register stuff. No scream or yelling stuff. Just deep chested vocals and low register yells, which are the best to preserve the voice. Wow.
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

Sounds like a reasonable excuse. Like I have said most times I hear him he sounds outstanding and some times mainly recordings like conan he is terrible if it was permanent he would always sounds poor.

Maybe it's cologne or something that starts it off but knowing what the prob is 1/2 the battle
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Re: Scott's Vocal Problems (Explained)

The source finally messaged me back... here's a little bit more info.

"The same people that have dogged out Creed for years set out on a campaign to do all they could to put negative things out there, it was done with evil intent and on purpose to try to make the new album and tour fail. I know alot of things but dont think it is right for me to say. I only told you what I did because I took you for a upright person. As for telling people anything Id just say that this is nothing new, this happens to pretty much any singer of a band but as you know Creed has many haters. I also know that many videos audio were tampered with on purpose and then placed all over the internet, to hurt this tour and new album. that is the depths those type of people will go to and still are. What personally offends me is when they say Mark really hates Stapp or that the guys all dont like him. It is so far from reality. Mark is stoked to have the real stapp back like he once was but now an even better version. Or about them liking Alterbridge more over Creed, so false it makes me laugh. Eventually with time people will see that. I hope. Someone I know is in the music industry (at UMG) and knows them all personally and are very close friends with the guys and their wives. Also I have a relative who is in a relationship with one of tremontis relatives."
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