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Old 11-28-2005, 06:44 PM   #1
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50 babies a year survive abortion

My personal opinion is that the procedure is totally and utterly wrong except in the case of rape or incest because I simply cannot place myself in the shoes of a woman who had some bastard force himself on her. However here in this article we have some sicko who tried to abort her child because it was discovered it had down syndrome. what is wrong with our society?


Fifty babies a year are alive after abortion
Lois Rogers

A GOVERNMENT agency is launching an inquiry into doctors’ reports that up to 50 babies a year are born alive after botched National Health Service abortions.
The investigation, by the Confidential Enquiry into Maternal and Child Health (CEMACH), comes amid growing unease among clinicians over a legal ambiguity that could see them being charged with infanticide.

The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, which regulates methods of abortion, has also mounted its own investigation.

Its guidelines say that babies aborted after more than 21 weeks and six days of gestation should have their hearts stopped by an injection of potassium chloride before being delivered. In practice, few doctors are willing or able to perform the delicate procedure.

For the abortion of younger foetuses, labour is induced by drugs in the expectation that the infant will not survive the birth process. Guidelines say that doctors should ensure that the drugs they use prevent such babies being alive at birth.

In practice, according to Stuart Campbell, former professor of obstetrics and gynaecology at St George’s hospital, London, a number do survive.

“They can be born breathing and crying at 19 weeks’ gestation,” he said. “I am not anti-abortion, but as far as I am concerned this is sub-standard medicine.”

The number of terminations carried out in the 18th week of pregnancy or later has risen from 5,166 in 1994 to 7,432 last year. Prenatal diagnosis for conditions such as Down’s syndrome is increasing and foetuses with the condition are routinely aborted, even though many might be capable of leading fulfilling lives. In the past decade, doctors’ skill in saving the lives of premature babies has improved radically: at least 70%-80% of babies in their 23rd or 24th week of gestation now survive long-term.

Abortion on demand is allowed in Britain up to 24 weeks — more than halfway through a normal pregnancy and the highest legal limit for such terminations in Europe. France and Germany permit “social” abortions only up to the 10th and 12th weeks respectively.

Doctors are increasingly uneasy about aborting babies who could be born alive. “If viability is the basis on which they set the 24-week limit for abortion, then the simplest answer is to change the law and reduce the upper limit to 18 weeks,” said Campbell, who last year published a book showing images of foetuses’ facial expressions and “walking” movements taken with a form of 3-D ultrasound.

The Department of Health was alerted three months ago to the issue of babies surviving failed terminations. In August clinicians in Manchester published an analysis of 31 such babies born in northwest England between 1996 and 2001.

“If a baby is born alive following a failed abortion and then dies (because of lack of care), you could potentially be charged with murder,” said Shantala Vadeyar, a consultant obstetrician at South Manchester University Hospitals NHS Trust, who led the study.

A systematic investigation of data collected through the CEMACH indicated that there are at least 50 cases a year nationwide in which babies survive abortion attempts.

“First sight of our data suggests this is happening,” said Shona Golightly, the agency’s research director. She said official confirmation of the figures would be available next year.

It is not known how many babies who survive attempted abortions go on to live into adulthood.

Paul Clarke, a neonatal intensive care specialist in Norwich, has treated a boy born at 24 weeks after three failed abortion attempts. The mother decided to keep the child, who is now two years old but is suffering what doctors call “significant ongoing medical problems”.
“The survival of this child was not recorded in any official statistics,” Clarke said. “There is nothing at the moment to force abortion practitioners to account for their failures.”

The issue will be highlighted by Gianna Jessen, 28, who survived an attempt to abort her. She is to speak at a parliamentary meeting on December 6 organised by the Alive and Kicking campaign, which is lobbying for a reduction of the abortion limit to 18 weeks.

Jessen, a musician from Nashville, Tennessee, was left with cerebral palsy but is to run in the London marathon next April to raise funds for fellow sufferers.

“If abortion is about women’s rights, then what were my rights?” she asked.

“If people are going to talk about abortion, then it’s important for them to know that these are babies that can be born alive and survive.”
She never told a lie,
Well, might of told a lie.
But never lived one.
Didn’t have a life.
Didn’t have a life.
But surely saved one.
Alright, now it’s time for us to let you go.

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Old 11-28-2005, 10:04 PM   #2
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Even though I had a discussion here about this some months ago where I defended abortion in specific situations (rape, for instance) I think its almost funny that today at my school we had a lecture showing the horrors of abortion.The students and also the teachers said to me the same : that it was 'shocking'. So I thought that the purpose of this meeting was exactly this: shocking people, specially the young ones.
So while I'm turning in my sheets
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Walk out the door and up the street
Look at the stars
Look at the stars, falling down,
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:14 PM   #3
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That is very sad,trying to abort your child just because you find out that they have down syndrome I have a cousin who is down syndrome and she is the sweetest person you'll ever know. She may have been a brat when she was younger but she isn't a whole lot different than anyone else. and the thought of someone not wanting their child just because they won't come out perfect is just sick!

When I was,I was 10 weeks premature and the doctors predicted that I would have all kinds of health problems. At birth I weighed only 3 and a half pounds and then dropped to 2 and a half but obviously that didn't stop my mother from having me because I'm here today and the only real issue I have with my health now is that I'm legally blind. So you never know how things will turn out in the end.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:00 PM   #4
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What a sickeningly misguided country I live in...
Titans baby, Titans.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:22 AM   #5
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Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) What a sickeningly misguided country I live in...
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA its the land of the free and i wont forget the men who died and gave that right to me HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA its late im tired and im like going to bed but yea i agree its a nice country All Sweet Dreams
I Indeed Babtize you with water BUT ONE Mightier Than I Cometh The Latchet Of Whose Shoes I,am Not Worthy To Unloose He Shall Babtize You With The Holy Ghost And With FIREEEEEEEEEE John The Babtist You Never Count Your Money When YOUR Sittin At The Table There Will Be Time Enough To Count,em When The Dealings Done
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:20 PM   #6
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"I notice that everybody who is Pro-Abortion already has been born." -Ronald Reagan
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:53 PM   #7
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^I love that line. It is extremely poignant.
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