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Old 07-07-2005, 08:58 PM   #31
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Quote: (Originally Posted by hayley) Hmmm I don't know if I beleive in God .... what about those people that died? why didn't he keep them alive aswell?
Hayley i know is difficult to believe in God when these things happens. I lost my mom after 3 years of sickness...and i can say that i praid to God for her, God kept her for 3 years close to me before she left and i can say God heard me Hayley. Doctors told me my mom had between 3 and 6 months ...and she lived for 3 years baby. Our time to go wont be change for human beings, not for you not for me. Noone should lose their faith, opposite make it stronger.
Sometimes pray and speak to God helps you to understand things...try it.
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:59 PM   #32
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Quote: (Originally Posted by hayley) Hmmm I don't know if I beleive in God .... what about those people that died? why didn't he keep them alive aswell?

Well, I'm not discussing religion, cause im not a very religious person, but I feel like it was not the "hour" to these people that survived it..well I dont know...maybe it's God...maybe I am wrong..
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:59 PM   #33
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I hope that everyone's friends and family members that are in London are alright(aussie,Gabi,and anyone else that has friends and family there) I will be praying for you and everyone else affected by this senseless act.

God doesn't want bad things to happen to us because he loves us to much,so please don't think He sees this and doesn't care,because he does
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:06 PM   #34
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I'm trying to take comfort in the good that people can do, like making beautiful music. I'm listening to Jeff Buckley right now.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:10 PM   #35
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Well, I'm not discussing religion, cause im not a very religious person, but I feel like it was not the "hour" to these people that survived it..well I dont know...maybe it's God...maybe I am wrong..
i'm not discussing it either, but when things like this happen it really makes me wonder. if you beleive in god, that's fine, i don't think i do, but i beleive in fate. i just don't understand if god was good, people would not die in such devestating ways, god wouldn't let people like these terrorists kill these innocent people ... doesn't he have all power over the world? ... can't he control these things from happening, if he was the 'highest' being?

i'm sorry, i've just never understood god
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:13 PM   #36
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hey sorry everyone! i won't turn this into a conversation about god, sorry sorry.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:14 PM   #37
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Quote: (Originally Posted by hayley) i'm not discussing it either, but when things like this happen it really makes me wonder. if you beleive in god, that's fine, i don't think i do, but i beleive in fate. i just don't understand if god was good, people would not die in such devestating ways, god wouldn't let people like these terrorists kill these innocent people ... doesn't he have all power over the world? ... can't he control these things from happening, if he was the 'highest' being?

i'm sorry, i've just never understood god
Yes,God could have stopped it,but he also gives us free will to make our own decisions,it is up to us to make the right ones and these terrorists chose to make the wrong one.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:31 PM   #38
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I have no pity for these sick Islamic terrorists who are now going to feel the wrath of the British... along with the Americans. Provoking the two most powerful militaries in the world is going to destroy their cause.
Come on man! We all know that shit ain't never gonna happen. The more you fight them, the more they'll fight back. But the risk if you let them be is that they will see their chance and terror will grow bigger than ever. But you Americans who still believe that what Bush does is the right thing have to realize that you can't win over terrorists. Suuure, Bush can bomb half the earth and kill 'em all so you can watch cable-TV and go safely to bed. But they will recover and after that they will be even MORE pissed.

None of this would have happened if Bush hadn't gone into Iraq. THAT was terror! Bush is terror! Killing innocent people for what? Usama? Naah, he has nothing to do with Iraq. Saddam? Yeah, well, maybe, but why won't they just send an elite group to take him out and no innocent people will be killed? But if I remember this right Bush's reason for going into Iraq was because they had Weapons Of Massdestroction. Tourned out later they hadn't. Bush was then pretty confused... Then he realized he could say to the media that he was there to save the people of Iraq. Yeah, that sounds good. Only that he had already KILLED the people of Iraq. And the once still alive... They didn't want any help from the man who had killed their familys and friends. I can't help thinking that maybe Bush wanted oil from Iraq...

Anyway... They sould've catched Usama, bad move Bush... Bad move...
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:35 PM   #39
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^^^ I'm choosing to refrain from commenting on that one,because I'm not about to go off tonight,not in the mood
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:37 PM   #40
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I hate terrorists just as bad as you do. But I hate Bush too.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:54 PM   #41
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I hate Bush too! After Bush invaded Iraq, terrorism is increasing all over the world... and he still continues to poses being the Great good guy...
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:55 PM   #42
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Ya well, I've heard that before so tell me something new
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:59 PM   #43
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I think its funny how whenever something bad happens,everyone is quick to point fingers and then the group that causes it all get overlooked and ignored
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:18 PM   #44
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Quote: (Originally Posted by JulieCitySlicker) I think its funny how whenever something bad happens,everyone is quick to point fingers and then the group that causes it all get overlooked and ignored


No its not funny, cause no one here its pointing fingers to an innocent, it just the opposite, cause no one can deny that Bush foreign policy is an error: US and others countries like England and Spain supported war in Iraq, so their action is provoking a reaction...a bad reaction, of course it is WRONG AND TERRIBLE ... but its the true.
And of course terrorism is stupid and coward, made by groups that are full of ignorant extremists using barbarous methods of cruelty in the name of faith?!!
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:45 PM   #45
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Look, people, let's not turn this into a political debate, OK? There's been enough fighting and bloodshed in the world today. Can we just leave the politics out of it for now and send some healing vibes and prayers or however you want to help in your way over to England? Thanks.
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