Heaven at all?

[Samuel]

I answered creedfan what they said in a couple of posts,so I was not answering for you or anybody else for that matter.They said they do not believe in hell so dont answer saying our thoughts.Read Revelations 20:10 and verses 14 and 15.NIV.Thank you!

[ZION1010]

Where is 15 Niv Cant Find it

[Samuel]

It`s Revelation 20:10 and verses 14 and 15 New International Version Bible.Thank you!

[ZION1010]

I Thought You were Talking About One Of The Other Books N the Bible that starts with an N>>. im okay now ITs Always a blessing to hear From you Pray for my Coumputer ITs Giving Me trouble Allright

[StrubesGuitar]

Thanks Mel!ssa for the original Greek, very excellent.

[creedfan47a]

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Originally posted by Samuel
I answered creedfan what they said in a couple of posts,so I was not answering for you or anybody else for that matter.They said they do not believe in hell so dont answer saying our thoughts.Read Revelations 20:10 and verses 14 and 15.NIV.Thank you!

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Originally posted by Samuel
Hi creedfan 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and Revelation 21:8.You do not accept that God will punish sin.

Firstly, Melissa can say whatever she likes in my defence. We have exactly the same beliefs. So, I agree completely with what she said about 1 Cor 6 and Rev 21. I never said that sinners will go unpunished. Have you read Psalm 37:20 and 28? "For the wicked themselves will perish..." and "... As for the offspring of the wicked ones, they will indeed be cut off." I know God will punish unrepentant sinners, I just do not believe that they will be condemned to a fiery hell to be tortured and poked by pitchfork-wielding demons for all eternity.

[mel!ssa]

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Originally posted by StrubesGuitar
Thanks Mel!ssa for the original Greek, very excellent.

You're welcome. Wanna know what those scriptures say in the exact translation? It's funny :

Matthew 23:33 "Serpents generatedones ofvipers, how shouldyouflee from the judgment ofthe Gehenna?"

2 Peter 2:4 - 6, 9, 12 "If for the God ofangels havingsinned not hespared, but topits ofgloom havingcastintoTartarus hegavebeside into judgment (ones)beingkept, and ofarchaic world not hespared... example of(things)being about(tocome) toirreverential(ones) [he]havingput... unrighteous(ones) but into day ofjudgment (ones)beingloppedoff tobekeeping... These(ones)... in the corruption ofthem also theywillbecorrupted."

1st Corinthians 6:9 "Or not haveyouknown that unjust(ones) ofGod kingdom not theywillinherit?"

Revelation 21:8 "the part ofthem in the lake the(one) burning tofire and sulphur."

Revelation 20:14 "And the death and the Hades werethrown into the lake ofthe fire."

Too bad i can't put the Greek letters on here... but it's pretty funny eh? :P Bit hard to read though...

Oh and Samuel: you are taking everything literally... Revelation is mainly symbolic... that's why it's a Revelation of John...?