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Old 02-17-2006, 05:59 AM   #16
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Brief reply because I just got home from partying at a club with a bunch of Europeans and Brazilians, actually. Damn, Brazilians can dance... .


you know some people prefer dance.... instead of wars...
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:05 AM   #17
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) The War on Drugs was an initiative pretty much created by President Nixon... and respected by every U.S. President since. It happened to be a major issue during the Clinton years as well.


With all respect... the effective result of this war? NONE!!!!!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I was implying that a three year old story with no new developments isn't relevent. For me to use analogies is completely different than the international media rehashing the same old story and showing it to billions of people. Huge difference. Me= a couple of people, Media= Billions of people. The media is damn well aware of how Arabs have been responding to basically everything. They know that this is going to incite anti-WESTERN (notice how I didn't say American) sentiment. It's hard for a soldier who is young and just saw his best friend killed by a terrorist who will do anything to brutally kill his opponents. They dont' know how to react half of the time
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Its interesting that you are complaing about media's power...because I remember your passionate defense in media publising the cartoons ...but when it refers to US your passion is over...interesting...
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:25 AM   #18
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

I don't have a problem with the media publishing the cartoons and I don't have a problem with the media publishing photos of abuse in Aub Ghraib, the same applies to pictures of beheadings by the resurgents.

I do have a problem with the media self-censoring for the fear it would piss off someone. If it is news, publish it. The media has a job to do and cannot be held responsible, if others react upon publication by killing people. The people who kill are to blame, not those who publish news (or cartoons).
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:36 AM   #19
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) I don't have a problem with the media publishing the cartoons and I don't have a problem with the media publishing photos of abuse in Aub Ghraib, the same applies to pictures of beheadings by the resurgents.

I do have a problem with the media self-censoring for the fear it would piss off someone. If it is news, publish it. The media has a job to do and cannot be held responsible, if others react upon publication by killing people. The people who kill are to blame, not those who publish news (or cartoons).

Yes...your position in the two cases above isnt contraditory, but I cant say the same about Chase's position...
But I also think that if media has a job to do so need to do it with RESPONSABILITY ...

Id like to continue commenting in this thread, but I neeed to go to work...btw..Im too late
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:59 AM   #20
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Well I'm off work now, I'm going to eat a bite of greek food in a Polish restaurant over the border in Germany.

Later tonight foosbal competition and in the rest of the weekend I have some pre-carnaval-events planned like aowwieverbal (oldwifesball) and stuff.

My homePC crashed a week and a half ago and is still being repaired, so I'll be back on monday.
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:44 PM   #21
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Yes...your position in the two cases above isnt contraditory, but I cant say the same about Chase's position...
But I also think that if media has a job to do so need to do it with RESPONSABILITY ...

Id like to continue commenting in this thread, but I neeed to go to work...btw..Im too late

These are two completely different topics. One, is newspapers publishing political satire... the other is the media rehashing the same old story for biased reasons. Explain why they RARELY release videos, or pictures of the disregard for humanity that these terrorists have. If the media truly cared about news... they wouldn't give into all of the same sensationalism.
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:46 PM   #22
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) Well I'm off work now, I'm going to eat a bite of greek food in a Polish restaurant over the border in Germany.

Later tonight foosbal competition and in the rest of the weekend I have some pre-carnaval-events planned like aowwieverbal (oldwifesball) and stuff.

My homePC crashed a week and a half ago and is still being repaired, so I'll be back on monday.

lol a good friend of mine is from Poland... he's the one I go clubbing with. It still looks like I'm going to Maastricht... I'll have to get some Dutch insight about what there is to do out there.
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:49 PM   #23
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp)
you know some people prefer dance.... insteady of wars...

lol... Brazilians are a good looking people.

I was walking around saying: "Ola, meu ome Chase"
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Old 02-17-2006, 04:00 PM   #24
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) lol... Brazilians are a good looking people.

And did you have any doubt about it? lol...lol...lol

Quote: I was walking around saying: "Ola, meu ome Chase"

I think you were trying to say: Olá meu nome é Chase...to the brazilians girls, right?

LOL!!!
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Old 02-17-2006, 04:08 PM   #25
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) These are two completely different topics. One, is newspapers publishing political satire... the other is the media rehashing the same old story for biased reasons. Explain why they RARELY release videos, or pictures of the disregard for humanity that these terrorists have. If the media truly cared about news... they wouldn't give into all of the same sensationalism.

Well...the topics can be different but the essence is the same : liberty of media

oh media publishing cartoon is okay but TV airing Abu Grahib images isnt......I got it...
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:44 PM   #26
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) Well I'm off work now, I'm going to eat a bite of greek food in a Polish restaurant over the border in Germany.

Later tonight foosbal competition and in the rest of the weekend I have some pre-carnaval-events planned like aowwieverbal (oldwifesball) and stuff.

My homePC crashed a week and a half ago and is still being repaired, so I'll be back on monday.


Yeah...we'll miss you...btw...pre-carnival events??? Cool... actually Brazil has the best Carnival of ALL!!!!!
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:21 PM   #27
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Well...the topics can be different but the essence is the same : liberty of media

oh media publishing cartoon is okay but TV airing Abu Grahib images isnt......I got it...

Two different things. I'm not saying that the media isn't allowed to do this. When did I say that? I merely said that the media is doing this to exploit the Islamic turbulence. They waited for the right time.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:22 PM   #28
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) And did you have any doubt about it? lol...lol...lol



I think you were trying to say: Olá meu nome é Chase...to the brazilians girls, right?

LOL!!!

No, no... just to you Ana.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:32 PM   #29
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) No, no... just to you Ana.


Wow... that's... VERY VERY good !!!

LOL!!!!!!!!:


Btw I was thinking what was the worst thing here...my english, your portuguese or Bush foreign policy...
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:43 PM   #30
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Re: New Abu Ghraib images broadcast

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Two different things. I'm not saying that the media isn't allowed to do this. When did I say that? I merely said that the media is doing this to exploit the Islamic turbulence. They waited for the right time.


No..you didnt say it...but you clearly insinuated it...

Yes...media is exploiting these "new" images obviously to provoke a reaction in Muslim world and of course t o sell 'newspapers' and to get TV audience...but they are still true..and btw seems that America wants to forget...



Off topic (?)...Last night I saw Munich-Spielberg and believe me its an 'amazing' and impressive movie...
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