Interesting article about state of Christianity. - Page 4

goddess_bb · 06-20-2003, 11:58 AM

Hello..he was pissed off....

Lechium · 06-20-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed
I don't think that will happen Lech  That would just defeat the whole purpose of Jesus dying on the cross for us

Please please dont tell god what will and what will not happen. If he wants to throw you in hell, he sure will, regardless of your bible and how you lived yoru life. Come on he is allmighty after all.

Bridge of Clay · 06-20-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by goddess_bb
So if God is always in a good mood, why did he flood the world after Noah built the Ark??

coz He thought you wouldn´t enter the ark! :lol: I´m just joking!

Seriously, get your Bible. Open it in Genesis 5 and 6. You´ll see why. The whole world was corrupted, evil and wicked and people, except for Noah and his family, were far away from God.

People´s behavior was self-destructive (sp???).

Lechium · 06-20-2003, 04:08 PM

And how do we know that this is true? Because bible tells us that this is the way it was?
Yeah I heard that they found remains of some ship on some mountain.. but lets face it -- there are several million different species of animals (almost million different species of insects), and no way in hell did Noah collected 2 of each. I mean how did he get 2 penguins?!
And dont tell me they evolved from what he collected. Evolutions is kinda slow.

Bridge of Clay · 06-20-2003, 06:05 PM

I don´t think he collected insects...

Lol, Lechium! About penguins... don´t tell me you´re expecting Noah to put a whale in the ark too?! I mean, a pair of each kind of whale...and sharks...and dolphins...and marlins!!! boy, that was a huge boat! :lol: Not to mention the water they need to survive!

Lechium · 06-20-2003, 06:54 PM

2N30°14'?.7 W84°: I think fish can survive flood pretty well, so he needed only ground animals.
And if he did not put penguins in the arc, how did they appear? Dont tell me that some random bird evolved into penguin in few thousand years, cuz that's impossible.

Bridge of Clay · 06-20-2003, 09:14 PM

doh... it´s the same thing. I think the penguins stayed in Antartica and giant icebergs... details like this aren´t relevant to our salvation. The Bible put only the necessairy.

Lechium · 06-20-2003, 10:51 PM

Ok, what about animals native to America's? Like Buffalo and stuff? How did they survive teh great flood?

Detaisl are important, cuz details like this show where Bible stops showing historical facts, and starts telling myths.

Bridge of Clay · 06-20-2003, 11:20 PM

I beg to differ. You´re trying to put words in my mouth and you know that´s not what I meant.

Anyway, I believe the buffalos were in the ark too

goddess_bb · 06-21-2003, 01:50 AM

hmmm....my point was that the arc was an example of God being pissed off...which you confirmed he was..that's all...

Lech-you can be logical till you wear yourself out...again..Faith is not logical, we feel our lives are fuller because of our faith and nothing you argue is going to change that...faith is a powerful and incrediable thing and how are we hurting you by having it??

Lechium · 06-21-2003, 08:03 AM

I dont mind you having faith.
A lot of people say that things Bible says are all true, and their proof of that is that Bible does mention few historically correct facts.
However sometimes Bible turns into collection of folklore, like whoel Arc thing. Few dozen Titanics wouldnt hold 2 of each species. And even if you build arc that big, and collect all millions of these species, they will die out, because of severe inbreeding. In other words -- story of Noah and his arc cannot be true, but rather is a legend.
Bottomline: have faith all you want. But be sure that it doesnt hinder yoru ability to see things clearly and soberly.

goddess_bb · 06-21-2003, 01:48 PM

Fair enough, Lech you have a point. I personally do not feel like my faith hinders my ability to see things clearly. Of course I am not a big follower of the bible..I have heard that the bible was re-written and some of the things that people take as the word of God in actuality is the fabrication of a few men..I do believe there is alot of truth to be found in the bible but like anything else in life to be taken with a grain of salt so to speak.

Bridge of Clay · 06-22-2003, 12:44 AM

God wasn´t pissed when He sent the flood.

He did for love of those who who were just and for love of the wicked, coz they were miserable.

Anyway, I saw a Washingnton Post article on the guy who found out where Titanic was and he said there are lots of proofs on Noah´s ark and flood.

Lechium · 06-22-2003, 12:48 AM

So he killed lots of people as an act of love? Killing newborn babies is an act of love? Holy shit, you Christians crack me up.

Bridge of Clay · 06-22-2003, 05:30 PM

why do you think not everybody is going to Heaven? Do you think that people who do evil will be happy up there???

06-20-2003, 11:58 AM	#46
goddess_bb USER INFO » Status: Strong Inside Posts: 1,498 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Hello..he was pissed off.... __________________ Someone finds salvation In everyone Another only pain Someone tries to hide himself Down inside himself he prays Someone swears his true love Until the end of time Another runs away Separate or united Empty or insane And be yourself is all that you can do All that you can do Be Yourself~Audioslave ~Ignore me, I dare you~

06-20-2003, 01:34 PM	#47
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by JulieLovesCreed I don't think that will happen Lech  That would just defeat the whole purpose of Jesus dying on the cross for us Please please dont tell god what will and what will not happen. If he wants to throw you in hell, he sure will, regardless of your bible and how you lived yoru life. Come on he is allmighty after all. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-20-2003, 03:32 PM	#48
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by goddess_bb So if God is always in a good mood, why did he flood the world after Noah built the Ark?? coz He thought you wouldn´t enter the ark! :lol: I´m just joking! Seriously, get your Bible. Open it in Genesis 5 and 6. You´ll see why. The whole world was corrupted, evil and wicked and people, except for Noah and his family, were far away from God. People´s behavior was self-destructive (sp???). __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-20-2003, 04:08 PM	#49
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	And how do we know that this is true? Because bible tells us that this is the way it was? Yeah I heard that they found remains of some ship on some mountain.. but lets face it -- there are several million different species of animals (almost million different species of insects), and no way in hell did Noah collected 2 of each. I mean how did he get 2 penguins?! And dont tell me they evolved from what he collected. Evolutions is kinda slow. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-20-2003, 06:05 PM	#50
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I don´t think he collected insects... Lol, Lechium! About penguins... don´t tell me you´re expecting Noah to put a whale in the ark too?! I mean, a pair of each kind of whale...and sharks...and dolphins...and marlins!!! boy, that was a huge boat! :lol: Not to mention the water they need to survive! __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-20-2003, 06:54 PM	#51
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	2N30°14'?.7 W84°: I think fish can survive flood pretty well, so he needed only ground animals. And if he did not put penguins in the arc, how did they appear? Dont tell me that some random bird evolved into penguin in few thousand years, cuz that's impossible. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-20-2003, 09:14 PM	#52
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	doh... it´s the same thing. I think the penguins stayed in Antartica and giant icebergs... details like this aren´t relevant to our salvation. The Bible put only the necessairy. __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-20-2003, 10:51 PM	#53
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Ok, what about animals native to America's? Like Buffalo and stuff? How did they survive teh great flood? Detaisl are important, cuz details like this show where Bible stops showing historical facts, and starts telling myths. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-20-2003, 11:20 PM	#54
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I beg to differ. You´re trying to put words in my mouth and you know that´s not what I meant. Anyway, I believe the buffalos were in the ark too __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-21-2003, 01:50 AM	#55
goddess_bb USER INFO » Status: Strong Inside Posts: 1,498 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	hmmm....my point was that the arc was an example of God being pissed off...which you confirmed he was..that's all... Lech-you can be logical till you wear yourself out...again..Faith is not logical, we feel our lives are fuller because of our faith and nothing you argue is going to change that...faith is a powerful and incrediable thing and how are we hurting you by having it?? __________________ Someone finds salvation In everyone Another only pain Someone tries to hide himself Down inside himself he prays Someone swears his true love Until the end of time Another runs away Separate or united Empty or insane And be yourself is all that you can do All that you can do Be Yourself~Audioslave ~Ignore me, I dare you~

06-21-2003, 08:03 AM	#56
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	I dont mind you having faith. A lot of people say that things Bible says are all true, and their proof of that is that Bible does mention few historically correct facts. However sometimes Bible turns into collection of folklore, like whoel Arc thing. Few dozen Titanics wouldnt hold 2 of each species. And even if you build arc that big, and collect all millions of these species, they will die out, because of severe inbreeding. In other words -- story of Noah and his arc cannot be true, but rather is a legend. Bottomline: have faith all you want. But be sure that it doesnt hinder yoru ability to see things clearly and soberly. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-21-2003, 01:48 PM	#57
goddess_bb USER INFO » Status: Strong Inside Posts: 1,498 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Fair enough, Lech you have a point. I personally do not feel like my faith hinders my ability to see things clearly. Of course I am not a big follower of the bible..I have heard that the bible was re-written and some of the things that people take as the word of God in actuality is the fabrication of a few men..I do believe there is alot of truth to be found in the bible but like anything else in life to be taken with a grain of salt so to speak. __________________ Someone finds salvation In everyone Another only pain Someone tries to hide himself Down inside himself he prays Someone swears his true love Until the end of time Another runs away Separate or united Empty or insane And be yourself is all that you can do All that you can do Be Yourself~Audioslave ~Ignore me, I dare you~

06-22-2003, 12:44 AM	#58
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	God wasn´t pissed when He sent the flood. He did for love of those who who were just and for love of the wicked, coz they were miserable. Anyway, I saw a Washingnton Post article on the guy who found out where Titanic was and he said there are lots of proofs on Noah´s ark and flood. __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-22-2003, 12:48 AM	#59
Lechium USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,293 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	So he killed lots of people as an act of love? Killing newborn babies is an act of love? Holy shit, you Christians crack me up. __________________ You bet I look good on the dance floor.

06-22-2003, 05:30 PM	#60
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	why do you think not everybody is going to Heaven? Do you think that people who do evil will be happy up there??? __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

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