"Creed morphed into Scott Stapp"

[The Lithium]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay)

just a bit??? lol

Everyday Stapp does his best to lose his non die-hard fans that are still willing to give him another chance.

How come when you make a comment like that people respect it as your opinion. But as soon as I open my mouth it's a total chaos?

[Mrprophetman]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay)

You're entitled to it.

But can't a man worry about his board mates when they're astray?

THEN CONSIDER ME ASTRAY TOO, THEN.

[Tremontixriffs]

Dude I totally agree it is good therapy, I mean if you listen to half the lyrics from a alterbride song they are ripping on stapp, in the songs they call out his drinking lying ways and slam him from every direction...I like both AB and Stapp and this whole thing is rediculous. Maybe if Mark spent less time promoting baseball on his blog and more time playing we might have another alterbride CD instead of One day remains tour part 6...two years later.... As far as stapp he still a ass for his part in ruining creed, but you dont have to love the artist to appreciate the music and his album sounds pretty thourough, I enjoyed sorround me and Fight Song...good effort...

[Bridge of Clay]

shut up, dude! pay attention to what you're saying... get the facts straights before stating an opinion like that.

Tremo and Myles are writing constantly... They just recorded a new song all instrumental for Total Guitar, they have a bunch of finished or ideas for new songs. They already said they'll hit studio in March to release the album by the end of next summer in US.

two years is the time most bands take in between albums.

[geletmote]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tremontixriffs)

Dude I totally agree it is good therapy, I mean if you listen to half the lyrics from a alterbride song they are ripping on stapp, in the songs they call out his drinking lying ways and slam him from every direction...I like both AB and Stapp and this whole thing is rediculous. Maybe if Mark spent less time promoting baseball on his blog and more time playing we might have another alterbride CD instead of One day remains tour part 6...two years later.... As far as stapp he still a ass for his part in ruining creed, but you dont have to love the artist to appreciate the music and his album sounds pretty thourough, I enjoyed sorround me and Fight Song...good effort...

I agree with you mate, totallyy...lol one day remains tour x 6 hahah so true

[Tremontixriffs]

Dude,
I got my facts straight both sides are stupid for what has happened to creed. I like AB , but prefer stapps lyraical sound as compared to myles rants of 80's music past. If by listening to the sample of fight son it is not more ever appearant that Stapp does not need his former bandmates to be successful as where alterbridge can sure as hell use a new lead singer...because miles just doesn't cut it..Yeah AB had a few decent songs but nothing that would make you think that they were anything more than a mediocre throwback rock band.. Stapp will have a heck of a solo career and as much as it pains me to say It because I am a big fan of tremonti's, after hearing the guitar work and drums I really don't thimk stapp needs his ex bandmates...I mean sorround me and fight song sounded great and tremonti wasnt even playing in it.You can say what you want about his comments on the radio about AB , but he's right he wrote the lyrics that rocketed creed to the charts and It is amazing how he was able to reproduce creeds sound without those guys being there as where myles who is a good singer just really can't cut it to bring alter bridge to the forefront of really successful bands. Im not knocking myles he has a good voice but he;s a drop in the bucket when trying to replace Platinum sound that Stapp has..period!

[The Lithium]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tremontixriffs)

Dude,
I got my facts straight both sides are stupid for what has happened to creed.

You don't use facts! You're explaining your opinion!

[Tremontixriffs]

Okay its my opininion!!

[uncertaindrumer]

Ya know, I have been telling people that this is what Scott Stapp is like for a LONG time and you all know its true, so I'm not one to say I told you so but:

I totally told you so!

Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan)

Well sure it morphed into Scott Stapp. It was all about him, the entire Weathered tour was based on whether or not he could perform, he got slammed at every turn, was cut down, cut up, and dissected.

AB even made Creed about him. So yea, I can see where he would make a statement like that. He's got my full support. Besides, it's good therapy for him to get it all out.

Wow. What a piece of nonsense. Get your head out of his butt, would you?

Sorry if that crosses any invisible line because I really am not trying to insult anyone but COME ON. If you can justify this, and spew crap about how ODR is about Stapp (give me a break), you really DO think the guy is a god, and when one thinks the biggest moron in music is a god... one needs help.

[geletmote]

Wow. What a piece of nonsense. Get your head out of his butt, would you?

Sorry if that crosses any invisible line because I really am not trying to insult anyone but COME ON. If you can justify this, and spew crap about how ODR is about Stapp (give me a break), you really DO think the guy is a god, and when one thinks the biggest moron in music is a god... one needs help.[/quote]

I wouldnt call him a moron, nor a god, simply talented. whether u like it or not.

[Tremontixriffs]

[quote=not.[/QUOTE]
Okay this is for Uncertain:

References to Stapp in One Day remains:

1)Find the real-
And all that I've taken
I hunger for more
Cause I'm selfish
And all I'm left with
Is a crown of thorns
And I'm helpless...This is probably a reference to Stapp and his work on Passion of the christ and how he's got nothing else now.

2)There's a face I put on
All my life
The face of an angel
I look in the mirror
Only to find
The face of a stranger...This is obviously another stab at stapp and how he supposively pretends to be someone he's not.

Thats just one song do you want me to keep going....cause I will tear into evry song...So you see AB does take quite a few jabs at Stapp on this album they just do it in a less obvious way !

[HuMaN~ClAy]

Quote:

Okay this is for Uncertain:

References to Stapp in One Day remains:

1)Find the real-
And all that I've taken
I hunger for more
Cause I'm selfish
And all I'm left with
Is a crown of thorns
And I'm helpless...This is probably a reference to Stapp and his work on Passion of the christ and how he's got nothing else now.

2)There's a face I put on
All my life
The face of an angel
I look in the mirror
Only to find
The face of a stranger...This is obviously another stab at stapp and how he supposively pretends to be someone he's not.

Thats just one song do you want me to keep going....cause I will tear into evry song...So you see AB does take quite a few jabs at Stapp on this album they just do it in a less obvious way !

well your first comment about FTR can just be thrown out the window cus FTR was written before Stapp even did anything with The Passion.... I would guess that these lyrics mean that he always wanted more with creed, and finally it all came crashing down (end of creed/death of his mother), and that all he has left is his spiritual side, which he turned to a little more when his mother passed away.

and your second comment may very well be what he's saying, but i highly doubt it... this is a very universal theme and can apply to 1000's of different situations, and since tremonti has never actually said anything about this i think your chances of guessing what it actually means are very slim, you're supposed to find your own meaning in the lyrics....

[Dogstar]

Quote:

and your second comment may very well be what he's saying, but i highly doubt it... this is a very universal theme and can apply to 1000's of different situations, and since tremonti has never actually said anything about this i think your chances of guessing what it actually means are very slim, you're supposed to find your own meaning in the lyrics....

"The songs are about things that we were thinking and we
wrote 'em down, and when you listen to 'em, whatever you
think it's about...THAT'S what it's about!"

-- Layne Staley

[geletmote]

[quote=Tremontixriffs]

Quote: (Originally Posted by not.[/QUOTE)

Okay this is for Uncertain:

References to Stapp in One Day remains:

1)Find the real-
And all that I've taken
I hunger for more
Cause I'm selfish
And all I'm left with
Is a crown of thorns
And I'm helpless...This is probably a reference to Stapp and his work on Passion of the christ and how he's got nothing else now.

2)There's a face I put on
All my life
The face of an angel
I look in the mirror
Only to find
The face of a stranger...This is obviously another stab at stapp and how he supposively pretends to be someone he's not.

Thats just one song do you want me to keep going....cause I will tear into evry song...So you see AB does take quite a few jabs at Stapp on this album they just do it in a less obvious way !

Keep goin Id love to hear more stabs at stapp AB take in their songs, honestly give me some more..

[uncertaindrumer]

*rolls eyes ludicrously far back into head*

Give me a break. I could take ANY FREAKING SONG EVER and somehow twist its meaning to being about Stapp if I wanted to. That doesn't mean it is. Your attempts at making these things look like songs written about Stapp are downright hilarious.