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Old 06-10-2003, 12:30 PM   #31
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(QUOTE) by lechium
serve" can mean many things, but above all it means that you're not free, you have people above you who tell you what to do, and most importantly you depend on others.(QUOTE)

Actually being a servant in this case is just doing things for others on your own free will Because yuou want to make someones day and be a goood person
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Old 06-10-2003, 04:48 PM   #32
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Old 06-10-2003, 06:10 PM   #33
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Quote: Originally posted by Steve
Logically, it cannot exist if there is no physical evidence of it existing. I would say it's a matter of faith unless there's documented proof it exists. (and I don't think an individuals account of what they experienced while in a coma is documentable proof).


http://www.monroeinstitute.org/
That's no proof, but they're working on it.
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Old 06-10-2003, 09:33 PM   #34
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Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
http://www.monroeinstitute.org/
That's no proof, but they're working on it.


When there's proof, let me know!
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Old 06-11-2003, 12:44 AM   #35
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Quote: Originally posted by Steve
When there's proof, let me know!


Look which forum section we're in? Religion huh? You have an entire forum dedicated to proofless "gotta have faith or you'll burn in hell" phenomenon called "religion", and yet you're asking me for a proof?
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Old 06-11-2003, 01:57 AM   #36
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You're the one who started the thread in the religion forum asking for people to look at this topic without a religious perspective... I'm just doing what you asked for originally.
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Old 06-11-2003, 09:45 AM   #37
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Hell is real,if you think that your separated from God now wait till you get there.It is not just the seering heat it is the eternal separation from God and the Savior Jesus Christ.Lord allow this person to see the Truth from your word in the mighty name of Jesus.Amen!
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Old 06-11-2003, 10:35 PM   #38
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It's not all about the "religion". Religion is an idea that is started by someone, that requires acts made to the god(s) involved. Religion is basically going through the actions. The idea of religion is wrong. Faith is correct. Lech, we christians are not just following a religion, it's a faith, in our loving savior Jesus Christ. He is God incarnate(in the flesh). What u may see is religion, which is easy to see, but try to see beyond it. Look beyond the facade, look at the roots and truth behind this facade. Religion doesn't hold us together, faith does. Have do u know what we say is proofless? Have u checked the facts, u seem to be a fact kinda guy. Look at the facts as if they were the same as those of post modern views. You can't say it's proofless unless it's proven wrong, no hasty generalization now. Like in court, innocent until proven guilty, right until proven wrong. And i don't think we can not talk about heaven or hell from a non-Christian view because we are what we are, and u're in the faith/religion forum and that's what ur gonna get.
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:18 PM   #39
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Lech: One simple fact that destroys your original question and the following argument -----

No-one other than satan is going to have any "power" or authority in hell. There will be no joy. No happiness. Just simple misery. The devil may lure people with the promise of reigning with him in Hell, but it's simply lie. Even if you did have a bit of power down there, no joy would be reaped from it; no pleasure, It simply doesn't exist down there.
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OH YEAH NORTHERNER! AN EXCELLENT POINT! (i do mean it)
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Old 06-14-2003, 04:18 PM   #41
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Quote: Originally posted by Northerner
<b>Lech: One simple fact that destroys your original question and the following argument -----

No-one other than satan is going to have any "power" or authority in hell. There will be no joy. No happiness. Just simple misery. The devil may lure people with the promise of reigning with him in Hell, but it's simply lie. Even if you did have a bit of power down there, no joy would be reaped from it; no pleasure, It simply doesn't exist down there. </b>

OK, just for you let me rephrase the question.
Would you rather be Satan, or just another God's servant in heaven?

You're looking at thsi question with a VERY narrow perspective.

P.S. Many religiosn have Heaven/Hell, so why you all assume that we're talking about Biblical ones? You're so funny.
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:03 PM   #42
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In the end, ultimately, Satan will lose. Sure might reign w/Satan for a little, but Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire in the end, and the prince of darkness will be defeated. Then God will set up a new earth and a new heaven. If u are on God's side, even a servant in Heaven, you will reign w/him forever. We are given that promise. Remember this is also the FAITH forum. Read my thing on religion up there.
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:07 PM   #43
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How about u tell us all about the heavens and hells of other religions, give us examples. I assume u're talking about Biblical because that is the only truth i know, and i believe it is also correct. I'll be prayin for ya Lech.
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Again. Why do you take heaven/hell in Biblical notion? Other religiosn have ideas similar to heaven/hell also. And yes it is Religion forum, and there are other religions than Christianity, you know.

P.S. Many religions dont have war/conflict going between heaven and hell. Hell is like a prison, and it's ruler is like a warden appointed by higher gods.
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Satan is a wardenlike person, but he is also a fallen angel, he wanted to be as powerful as God and he still strives to do so, by tempting and deceiving and twisting all we know into nothingness and meaningless. God did kind of "appoint" Satan to do that job by banishing him from the kingdom of Heaven. Yeah there are other religions, but this one is the most reasonable, because of its historical accurateness, benefits, loving and personal relationship w/the Creator of the heavens and earth, etc.
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