[RalphyS]

Quote: (Originally Posted by SecretWeapon)

Moving away from evolution,
I'd like to talk about the origin of existance. Either

A) The world was created by an all powerful God.

B) The entire universe was once contained in an impossibly dense
sphere the size of the head of a pen ,and suddenly burst open ,
spreading all matter across existance ,and the universe we know today
are the reprocusions of this magnificent burst. (The Big Bang)

or

C)The universe has always existed

Well , considering , the VERY VERY HIGH improbability of all matter
being held in a very dense body (which still does NOT explain how
the tiny body of matter was created in the first place) ,and ,also
considering Newtons laws of movement , ie , an object in motion
tends to stay in motion ,unless acted upon by an outside force,
and AN OBJECT WITHOUT MOTION TENDS TO STAY WITHOUT
MOTION UNLESS ACTED UPON BY AN OUTSIDE FORCE ,
we must conclude that this idea is completely and utterly wrong,
until proof is provided that says otherwise , until man makes
a universe in a test tube , we cannot accept this idea.

Also , according to the vast majority of scientists , everything
in the universe is in a process , which they were all put in
at the creation of the universe. Everything in the universe is changing,
and the universe is expanding , clearly this could not have been the case
an ENFINITY back into the past ... No , the universe had to have been
created at some time , by something or Someone.

First of all, why is it more improbable that all matter was held in a very dense body, after which the big bang happened than that there was some sort of being (who came from where?) that created everything. From all that science can explore about the universe it seems to be expanding, and an expansion had to start at one point. But science does not claim to know why or how or even if the big bang occurred, but it once again seems more likely than saying, well there is this thing in the sky that did it all, without any substantiation for that 'theory'. Still the believers of that 'theory' are absolutely sure that it happened that way, without any proof.

We can agree that the universe as we now know it started at some point, but most scientista take an open-minded view to that starting point and say, we do not yet know, how and/or what started it, and as long as there is no proof for a God who supposedly did it, I take the same view.