Yes I do believe that nothing can separate us from God...but we can separate ourselves from Him if we choose to turn from His ways and not follow the path His set before us. What I am trying to say is that if a person accepts Christ and doesn't change his or her ways but goes on like it didn't happen than I think God sets certain standars for that. He still loves us but if we deny Him than He will deny us before His Father in Heaven:angel:

God looks at our hearts. He knows all and sees all before it even happens. He judges us by what is inside of us...our feelings,thoughts, what we believe:angel:

i agree with all that. but god says that nothing even ourselfves can seperate us from the love that is in christ jesus our savior. that love is his free gift of salvation. btw, do you have any scripture that makes you think that we can loos our salvation?

All I am trying to say is that we all sin...right;) We need Jesus's forgiveness to be free from it. Well, If we do not ask for forgiveness and repent for what we do than how can He forgive. I kno He would like to do it on His own free will but I kno it doesn't work that way. His love and forgiveness are both unconditional but we have to want it to:angel:

Slip the man a fin at the pearly gates...

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This is a Calvinistic debate of the "Once saved always saved" point. Personally I am not a Calvinist... not in the least. And noone will ever sway me to the Calvinistic side either.

I do so hate that phrase "lose your salvation" for no you cannot "lose" salvation as you "lose" a set of car keys.

A more appropriate phrase is that "you can CHOOSE to WALK AWAY from salvation." One can certainly choose to hold a set of car keys in the palm of their hand and CHOOSE to LAY them down on a table and WALK AWAY from them.

One can accept Jesus Christ into their heart as their Lord and Savior and then they can also choose to walk away from that very same Savior.

nothing including us can seperate us from god. Romans 8:38 and 39.

we cannot walk away from it. if we do, you cannot loose it, you cannot forfeit it, it is yours forever.

So if in 1991 I became a christian and in 1997 I became a Wiccan am I still saved? Do I still have salvation?

yes you are still saved. although god is not happy that you have sought some other religion, he still have your name written in the book of life.

now, Lady Valkyrie, I am not direction this at you. this is just something that i think is happening.

I thknk that people get "loosing salvation" and loosing fellowship with God" mixed up. you can loose your fellowship with God, by doing something like becoming Wiccan. but you cannot loose your savlation over it.

does that make sense? I hope so.

I'm sorry but I dissagree

why do you disagree? what verses in the bible say that you can loose your salvation?

So what you are saying is that if someone becomes a christian and then the next day they sell their soul to the devil that they are still a christian:confused: I mean Hey, they were a christian first:confused: :confused: :confused: