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NeedforCreed
07-13-2004, 02:21 AM
I've waited for months on the new Alter Bridge music. Nothing really outstanding about the single. Possibly the album will be better, but with what I've noticed on the single, just seems like something's missing. Chemistry is just not there. Long way from MOP. I've been a big fan of the music moreso than Scott, but it seems like Scott was the straw that stirred the drink.

farmgirl
07-13-2004, 07:53 AM
Yeah, it does nothing for me either. I mean, it's not bad, but it doesn't move me like Creed's music does. I think there is too much filler towards the end and maybe another verse would have been better. JMO.

Shadow
07-13-2004, 11:02 AM
I've been a big fan of the music moreso than Scott, but it seems like Scott was the straw that stirred the drink.
I've never heard it put that way. I like that.

I mean, it's not bad, but it doesn't move me like Creed's music does.
I feel the same way.

Unfortunately with the circumstances what they are, it seems as if it will be an extremely long time for Scott to reconcile with the others. But miracles have been known to happen.

Kimvan
07-13-2004, 11:41 AM
I've never heard it put that way. I like that.


I feel the same way.

Unfortunately with the circumstances what they are, it seems as if it will be an extremely long time for Scott to reconcile with the others. But miracles have been known to happen.
I also feel that way; the song just fell flat with me, and honestly, I approached it with an open mind when I listened. My husband said the same thing. I dunno, maybe some other songs on the CD will be better, more intriguing? I did enjoy Mark's guitar and Flip's drums alot, though. Please don't take that the wrong way, that just because Stapp wasn't singing, that's the reason I didn't like it. I just honestly don't think there's anything really special and unique about Myles' voice. It just sounds kind of ordinary IMO.
And yes, Shadow, miracles have been known to happen - for example, The Eagles said they'd reunite "when hell freezes over", and when they did reunite, they named their tour the "Hell Freezes Over Tour"!! Bon Jovi is another example - sometimes the band members just need a break from each other, and sometimes it can be a long break, to do other solo stuff, etc. So call me extremely hopeful, but I still hold onto that hope. :D Peace...

Mulletman
07-13-2004, 12:03 PM
The song is catchy at best. The only way I can explain it is that we [here] over hyped it. If you look at radio stations and TV stations the only big thing they did was the break up. They just casually dropped hint on side projects and that was about it. I think we just personally expected more. I'm still rather optimistic to hear the entire album, but I wouldnt be surprised if I get my hopes up again.

Ann Allusion
07-13-2004, 12:21 PM
The song is catchy at best. The only way I can explain it is that we [here] over hyped it. If you look at radio stations and TV stations the only big thing they did was the break up. They just casually dropped hint on side projects and that was about it.


Mullet Man, you have hit the nail on the head! But for the fans to take credit for the OVERHYPE...LOL...you definitely were steered in that direction, so it wasn't without instigation...;)

And once it was past the "breakup conversations" with the media, the hype also found it's way there as well.

I think we just personally expected more. I'm still rather optimistic to hear the entire album, but I wouldnt be surprised if I get my hopes up again

i'm optimistic as well, just think i won't be holding my breath...no matter what tho, i do wish AB whatever sucess they are due.

Dogstar
07-13-2004, 12:45 PM
The song is growing on me, but as I have said before, it didn't knock my socks off. I'm hoping for better stuff on the album as well.

farmgirl
07-13-2004, 01:57 PM
The song is catchy at best. The only way I can explain it is that we [here] over hyped it. If you look at radio stations and TV stations the only big thing they did was the break up. They just casually dropped hint on side projects and that was about it. I think we just personally expected more. I'm still rather optimistic to hear the entire album, but I wouldnt be surprised if I get my hopes up again.

Exactly...I think people over-hyped it since everyone was eager to hear anything new Creed related...even though it was a new band. When people did finally hear it, and it wasn't something spectacular, they were let down.
I know not everyone feels this way...some really love it. I just think it's an average rock song.

Jooji_2
07-13-2004, 03:18 PM
I don't care for it...but I know others do. I listened to Kennedy before I ever heard the single....and sorry, but his voice doesn't say much to me....I'm sure he's got talent and range....but if it don't move people....what does it accomplish?

I'll listen to the other stuff on the album, but I would have to think that the first single is the one that showed more radio promise, so I'm not getting my hopes up too far. I'm not sure I want an entire CD with Kennedy as the front man. Not because its not Stapp, but because I don't particularly care for his voice.

I'm not sure how well the single is going over here in my part of the country....I have yet to hear it played during drive time.....when I am most likely to be listening.

Valbear
07-13-2004, 07:18 PM
I play the single every once in a while on my computer and keep hoping it will have more depth to it the next time I listen to it. I like his voice well enough but the song isn't meaty enough. It seems like it's a formula song. The record company said "make a song that's catchy and flows, and here's the formula". Unfortunately, the formula makes it sound like it's been done before and it's boring. My radio stations come out of L.A. and I haven't heard it yet. I guess it's the kind of song that I wouldn't turn the station, but I wouldn't turn it up either.

musiclover291
07-13-2004, 07:52 PM
I play the single every once in a while on my computer and keep hoping it will have more depth to it the next time I listen to it. I like his voice well enough but the song isn't meaty enough. It seems like it's a formula song. The record company said "make a song that's catchy and flows, and here's the formula". Unfortunately, the formula makes it sound like it's been done before and it's boring. My radio stations come out of L.A. and I haven't heard it yet. I guess it's the kind of song that I wouldn't turn the station, but I wouldn't turn it up either.

Good point I agree I keep listening to it over and over and it just dosen't touch my soul like other songs. For example, "Torn". I agree also the fans we hype it up and then like many I was very disappointed. However, I am interested in hearing the rest of the CD.

Shadow
07-13-2004, 09:13 PM
Please don't take that the wrong way, that just because Stapp wasn't singing, that's the reason I didn't like it. I just honestly don't think there's anything really special and unique about Myles' voice. It just sounds kind of ordinary IMO.
Good point Kim. It's not just because Scott wasn't singing.

And yes, Shadow, miracles have been known to happen - for example, The Eagles said they'd reunite "when hell freezes over", and when they did reunite, they named their tour the "Hell Freezes Over Tour"!! Bon Jovi is another example - sometimes the band members just need a break from each other, and sometimes it can be a long break, to do other solo stuff, etc. So call me extremely hopeful, but I still hold onto that hope. :D Peace...
I forgot about The Eagles - good point. I've mentioned it before on this board about Bon Jovi. I'm a huge Bon Jovi fan - another band that I've been with since the very beginning (seeing them as an opening band). There was one point where Jon and Richie didn't speak to each other.

I hold onto that hope too Kim.

The only way I can explain it is that we [here] over hyped it.
We were all just waiting and waiting for something, anything. I think we all missed Creed. Nothing went on in 2003 with the band and then the rumours started flying in November 2003. It's all relative. I haven't heard the radio stations here (NY/Long Island) play it and I've made it a point to listen to the radio as opposed to CD's. Sometimes music is like that - it will be really hot in one part of the country and not in another. (Unless of course it's a band like Creed or Bon Jovi, etc. that's huge and played everywhere).

Bridge of Clay
07-13-2004, 09:37 PM
I think the reason I liked OYE so much is that, instead of waiting for a big thing, I was afraid it was going to be heavy and sound unlikely to my taste.

When I heard it and realized that all I loved was therem it moved me. Honestly, it exceeded my expectations because mine were completely different.

hayley
07-13-2004, 09:46 PM
Hmmm ... I have to say, that I did expect a little more from Tremo, for the first single. But, I know that you can't judge a band when they have only put out one song. OYE has grown on me so much, and now it's one of those songs that move me, and I'm in love with it now. Can't WAIT for the album.

aussiecreeder
07-13-2004, 11:55 PM
honestly its a song tremonti could write in his sleep but i really do enjoy the song a lot. the lyrics apart from some creed songs (such as is this the end) are as good as most of creed's material (which was an area of concern for me) and its got such a big hook. it does sound a lot like creed but its better than the songs its similar too such as my sacrifice.

flip's drumming is better, the solo is cool (i thought it was too quick for the song but i now get it) and sorry some of you girls but myles vocally is much better than stapp. he makes the song only with tremonti's solo IMO.

farmgirl
07-14-2004, 07:10 AM
the lyrics apart from some creed songs (such as is this the end) are as good as most of creed's material.....its better than the songs its similar too such as my sacrifice......and sorry some of you girls but myles vocally is much better than stapp.

I disagree on all 3 comments but to each their own right? :D We all aren't going to like the same things. :)

Bridge of Clay
07-14-2004, 08:34 AM
this comparissons to My Sacrifice... c'mon... it's the same rig and same tuning... therefore it has the same type of sound, but it's completely different IMO.

farmgirl
07-14-2004, 09:47 AM
I'm not disagreeing with the similarities to My Sacrifice, I disagreed that OYE was better than My Sacrifice. :D

Jooji_2
07-14-2004, 01:04 PM
honestly its a song tremonti could write in his sleep but i really do enjoy the song a lot. the lyrics apart from some creed songs (such as is this the end) are as good as most of creed's material (which was an area of concern for me) and its got such a big hook. it does sound a lot like creed but its better than the songs its similar too such as my sacrifice.

flip's drumming is better, the solo is cool (i thought it was too quick for the song but i now get it) and sorry some of you girls but myles vocally is much better than stapp. he makes the song only with tremonti's solo IMO.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I do disagree that the lyrics are as good as most of creed's material.....especially just based on one song....once I see the rest I may change my mind....but I doubt it. If Tremonti could write that in his sleep.....he needs to wake the hell up. As for being a better song than My Sacrifice....hell NO. I agree that apparently some things about it are similar to My Sacrifice, but its not better. I've never said Myles wasn't talented vocally......but if I don't like the guy's voice....I simply don't like it. If we were required to base what we liked musically on what was considered a better quality voice or someone who was formally trained.....wouldn't we all be required to love opera then? Who is better isn't always what people like...so don't say I'm wrong for not liking it...I really don't care if vocally Myles is better. I get in moods where I listen to old Bob Dylan....and his voice sends some people into convulsions....they hate it. I have people on other message boards calling me stupid cause I don't see the genius in Myles Kennedy.....sorry. I can agree to disagree, but don't call me stupid for simply not liking something.

It all comes down to what you like and what you don't. I played OYE for a co-worker of mine today.....she isn't actually a great Creed fan, but she said it sounded just like Creed until she heard Kennedy's voice...she didn't care for the song....I asked her if she would buy the CD and she just simply said NO.

I've listened to the song multiple times (at VH1, as it is not being played in my area on the radio)......it's not growing on me and I doubt it will.

Dogstar
07-14-2004, 01:28 PM
That's right, everybody IS entitled to their opinion. And Handmedown wasn't ripping people or calling people stupid who don't like the song. He was simply stating his opinion. I think you're a little too sensitive.

goddess_bb
07-14-2004, 01:40 PM
I have not heard it yet..but history shows that the odds are aganist AB because usually when a band splits and trys to go solo..examples when Aerosmith split in the early 80's..when Tommy Lee from Motley Crue tried to go solo..flops..okay before you start to bash me..I know AudioSlave is the exception and maybe Beyonce...but the fans want the old music or a updated version from the orginal band...I think alot of it is luck plain and simple and how many get that lucky twice??
If these guys were smart they would have a back-up plan no band lasts forever or is sucessful forever..except maybe Metallica...

musiclover291
07-14-2004, 01:59 PM
I have not heard it yet..but history shows that the odds are aganist AB because usually when a band splits and trys to go solo..examples when Aerosmith split in the early 80's..when Tommy Lee from Motley Crue tried to go solo..flops..okay before you start to bash me..I know AudioSlave is the exception and maybe Beyonce...but the fans want the old music or a updated version from the orginal band...I think alot of it is luck plain and simple and how many get that lucky twice??
If these guys were smart they would have a back-up plan no band lasts forever or is sucessful forever..except maybe Metallica...

Time will only tell if Alterbridge and Stapp solo will make it. I think if the music is good and come from their souls then the fans will follow. People may disagree but I think Stapp is going to be very successful because he follows his passion and heart when it comes to his craft and also he is good at business and marketing and he's great writer. Alterbridge I don't won't to pass anymore judgement until I hear the entire CD and see them perform I think Mark, Flip, and Brian are talented Myles voice is good. However, I not sure if they as business savy.

Just my opinion

Jooji_2
07-14-2004, 04:23 PM
That's right, everybody IS entitled to their opinion. And Handmedown wasn't ripping people or calling people stupid who don't like the song. He was simply stating his opinion. I think you're a little too sensitive.

And I didn't say HE was calling me stupid, did I? That is happening at another message board.

He did, however, insinuate that I didn't realize that Kennedy is more vocally talented that Stapp. To which I replied it really didn't matter to me who is the more talented, if I don't care for the person's voice. What one person likes compared to another doesn't make one person bad based on what their opinion is. I wasn't trying to start an argument, and was simply stating MY opinion. :D

Dogstar
07-14-2004, 04:51 PM
Please keep the other stuff from other boards out of here, thank you.

Handmedown stated his opinion about the talents of Myles; he did not insinuate that you didn't realize that Kennedy is more talented than Stapp. It was his opinion, as stated, that Myles is more talented. You take things way too personally. Lighten up.

Bridge of Clay
07-14-2004, 09:40 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the similarities to My Sacrifice, I disagreed that OYE was better than My Sacrifice. :D

I didn't say that about you. Those comparissons are made everywhere.

But it doesn't matter ... anything I play with that settings will sound like My Sacrifice.... that was my point.