Is it me? or do some of us seem to be divided between Mark and Scott.

[Creed_Defaultgirl]

Is it just me, or does it seem that like many of the people are specificly Tremonti fans, and others are specificly Stapp fans? To me, that just seems wrong, I mean, they all make up Creed. Y'know, if it was just Mark, without Scott and Flip, it wouldn't be as great. Same with if it was vise versa. If Scott was out in the world by himself without Mark and Flip, he wouldn't be as well. And same with Flip, if there were no Mark and Scott, Flip wouldn't be a far as he is now either. Now, if all the guys went off and did other things, like they pretty much are doing now we think, then they are going to be awesome. They are so talented, I think they can get pretty much do anything they want to do. But when these three talents come together, it is just amazing, like there is no way that any man alone can do anything as great as CREED. These guys' talent's just kinda equal out to one of the greatest things. I can understand that Mark probably drew a lot of us to Creed, and Scott probably drew some of us, and Flip probably brought some of us to CREED also. But do we have to be so divided about who we might think is the better member in the band? These are my opinions, but please share yours. I'm not meaning to offend anyone if I do, I'm sorry. That isn't my intintion, it is to figure out why some of us have become so divided like. Maybe I am only thinking I notice this, and maybe others have also. I don't know, but I'll find out. Just let me know if you guys have or haven't noticed this. Thanks
Please notice that not everyone is that way, I have just noticed some certian posts that are like anti Mark or anti Scott. I'm sure these certian people don't mean it as if they hate Scott or vise versa with Mark, but I don't like it. Like I say earlier, my opinions, no offence meant.

[DangerousDan85]

i like em both

[hayley]

Oooh man

Yes I have noticed tension and siding between Stapp and Tremonti. I personally am not on one side, and battling against the other, I love them both equally and I am going to follow them both in whatever road they both decide to go down.

But yes, I have noticed siding on this board, I don't think it is fair, I don't like it either, but you know I guess that's they way people like to act. I think it's stupid though.

[SCOTTSMYMAN]

I've noticed it alot too! But what are you going to do, it's just the way some people are going to be about it. I'm for the whole band! I try to stay out of the divided debate about it all. I get upset when people bash Scott but then people do the same to Mark. And poor Flip just kinda of gets left out in the cold!

[JenRN]

I don't view it myself as a divided war. I love Stapp, and absolutely love MARK as well. They are incredibly talented and I think whatever happens will be what is good for them. They have rocked me so much and lead me to so many great things and provoked thoughts I have never explored before and to them I will ALWAYS be grateful :)

[TeriB19]

I have definitely noticed the split among some members of this bb. To each his own, I suppose, but Creed, as a whole, made me a fan. Not just one individual member. I'll support them all in whatever they do, but staying together would be the ultimate, in my opinion.

[RMadd]

I don't if people are divided, it's just that some people (myself included) prefer Tremonti over Stapp, while there are others who prefer Stapp over Tremonti. But, at least from my view, both are extremely talented (it's just that I prefer Mark).

[luvscott4ever]

I love them ALL!! I'm with Teri, the ultimate solution for me would be that they stay together!! But I'm behind them all, no matter what path they take in life, and if they split, I sooo hope and pray that the paths they take end up back to Creed as a whole!!

[hayley]

but Creed, as a whole, made me a fan. Not just one individual member.

Yeah, exactly. That's the way I feel aswell, the whole band made me become a fan, not just Stapp, or Tremo, or Flip.

[Wylde-Tremonti]

I'm A Tremonti Fan... I love guitars... my love of guitars and playing them... and it's because of MARK... scott has amazing lyrics... but... he does seem to have gone a lil off his rocker... i mean... it's not unussual... it happens to the best of us... but mark is my idol guys... i mean.. he's what i want to be when i get older.... scott just can't compare w/ that...

[Bridge of Clay]

I have definitely noticed the split among some members of this bb. To each his own, I suppose, but Creed, as a whole, made me a fan. Not just one individual member. I'll support them all in whatever they do, but staying together would be the ultimate, in my opinion.

[TeriB19]

scott has amazing lyrics... but... he does seem to have gone a lil off his rocker... i mean... it's not unussual... it happens to the best of us...
Can you elaborate on that for us Matt? I'm a little confused as to the gone off his rocker part.

[Dogstar]

I love them ALL!! I'm with Teri, the ultimate solution for me would be that they stay together!! But I'm behind them all, no matter what path they take in life, and if they split, I sooo hope and pray that the paths they take end up back to Creed as a whole!!

What they said!

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Can you elaborate on that for us Matt? I'm a little confused as to the gone off his rocker part.
well... i didn't want to put it like this... be he seems to have become... kinda... weird....?....i mean... ever since the stuff w/ his Ex... he's just seemed different...

[creedsister]

i dont take sides,its not god like to that,,but with long over due respect,,,,,,,,,,,,,STAPPY ROCK ON :jam:

[Sheila63]

I love them ALL!! I'm with Teri, the ultimate solution for me would be that they stay together!! But I'm behind them all, no matter what path they take in life, and if they split, I sooo hope and pray that the paths they take end up back to Creed as a whole!!


Ditto!!

[lifelovesoul]

I love them all. I pray that they stay together or life as I know it will never be the same. I am so glad for what they have given me. If they do go their seperate ways I am sure I will follow each one of their careers. They are part of my life. Always will be.

CREED ROCKS LIFE !!!

[JenRN]

well... i didn't want to put it like this... be he seems to have become... kinda... weird....?....i mean... ever since the stuff w/ his Ex... he's just seemed different...
Well I am going through crap like this now, it has a tendency to mess with your head a little BELIEVE ME! :eek: Yes I think he has had a hard time for sure, but you know I hope he gets better and stonger and heals from it. It is not easy, wish I could sit and chat with him, I am going through similiar things minus the child.

[Delirium]

The whole group made me a fan, but after time went on i started to like tremonti better more and more.

[hayley]

well... i didn't want to put it like this... be he seems to have become... kinda... weird....?....i mean... ever since the stuff w/ his Ex... he's just seemed different...

I kinda see where you are coming from there. But in my perspective, I don't see Scott as being different to what he used to be. Yes, with all the things he has been going through over the past year, I do think he's acting differently, but ya know we only have so much information to gather and we don't really know what's going on inside his head.

[JenRN]

Some people handle things differently. Mark seems to be more quite and "controlled" a little better. God knows what he has had to deal with tragedy like the death of his mother. But he seems to handle things more smoothly, he is lucky. Some others are intense in a different way and just don't have an outlet that is all positive. I know there are times I handle "life" better than other times. But all in all, they are great guys and I love CREED for CREED. They would not be as great without each individual talent. I truly believe they will be succesful in whatever they do, I just hope they follow thier desires.

[Alter Shredder]

We always tend to lean to one side or the other. It is human nature. We all have different things we are looking for and so division occurs. I know we all love creed. and we will support all of the members as they venture down the path, it is just that each of us will pay a little more attention to one over the others. As long as we can support all of them and each other, I think a little division wont kill anyone.

[facelessman]

im a tremonti fan. he is the reason i started listening to Creed, he is the reason i started listening to rock music, and he is the reason (along with impressing girls) that i started to play the guitar. i love stapp and all, i really really do, but im all about Mark, ya know?

[creedsister]

yeap i know it

[creedlvr]

I definitely agree that some people are clearly taking sides ... and ... I know I am one of the offenders.

Truthfully, I like them all ... together as Creed! Nothing would make me happier than to see this whole thing get worked out. It just breaks my heart to think that this might really be happening.

However, Stapp is absolutely the one who drew me in. Without him, I would still be a fan of the music but I would not feel the same passion as I do now. He just has such an incredible stage presence and charisma that I just can't ignore. I realize that he has made some pretty big mistakes and that he could possibly be the major contributor to some of these riffs. Still, I know that if they go their separate ways, while I will try my best to support all of them, for me it will be all about Scott.

It also seems like since this has happened, a lot more people are jumping on the "Mark bandwagon" then the "Scott bandwagon." I've said it before and I'll say it again ... I tend to stick by the underdog. And in this case, it seems like that person is Scott. I feel like he can use all the support he can get. Now granted ... he very well may have brought this on himself. I'm really not intentionally taking sides, but I have to admit that I find it difficult not to. I just don't like some of the things that people are saying about Scott. It's almost as though people are abandoning him. Please don't think I am lumping everyone in this category ... I know that there are still very many supporters of his on this board.

I do have to admit though, that Mark IS clearly more stable. Scott seems to be a pretty emotional person and doesn't handle tough situations very well. But for me, that just adds to the human side of him ... beyond the musician. It makes him seem more real ... again, just drawing me in deeper. It's like you really feel like you know him. I don't feel that connection with Mark or Flip. Don't get me wrong ... I think they are both great musicians and HUGE assets to Creed as a group. It's just that to me, they are guys in a band ... great guys ... and very talented guys ... but still, just guys. They don't really let you into their personal life. I'm not saying that's a bad thing ... I'm just saying that's why I don't feel the same connection. I do believe that they are vital to Creed (for obvious reasons) and even to Scott for that matter. It seems as though they keep him in check.

Again ... I just hope that it won't come down to anyone having to take sides because they will work this out and remain "Creed" as we know them!

[creedlvr]

Jen - I love your avitar. Is it a recent photo?

[hayley]

Good input there creedlvr

[hayley]

I do have to admit though, that Mark IS clearly more stable. Scott seems to be a pretty emotional person and doesn't handle tough situations very well.

Everybody handles different situtaions their own way, and everybody handles different situations the best they possibly can.

I know that because I have learnt that over the last couple of months.

[Julbright]

We always tend to lean to one side or the other. It is human nature. We all have different things we are looking for and so division occurs. I know we all love creed. and we will support all of the members as they venture down the path, it is just that each of us will pay a little more attention to one over the others. As long as we can support all of them and each other, I think a little division wont kill anyone.

I am with you! I love Creed, it is the band as a whole that drew me in, but just like we aren't attracted to every person in the world for a mate etc, we will be drawn to certain people and characteristics over others. I don't know as much about Mark because he isn't as revealed as Stapp - mostly in my mind because Stapp writes the lyrics and there is no real filter there - it is raw and real stuff - especially the older stuff - so those are the things that make me Stapp happy! I think Mark is incredibly talented and very attractive, but I like passionate people and Scott wears his passion on his sleeve. It is merely a preference, I am not "anti-" anybody!

[mushroomy2k]

I am with you! I love Creed, it is the band as a whole that drew me in, but I like passionate people and Scott wears his passion on his sleeve. It is merely a preference, I am not "anti-" anybody!
ditto i love the whole band and will support what ever they all choose
to do.

[janem]

I am with you! I love Creed, it is the band as a whole that drew me in, but just like we aren't attracted to every person in the world for a mate etc, we will be drawn to certain people and characteristics over others. I don't know as much about Mark because he isn't as revealed as Stapp - mostly in my mind because Stapp writes the lyrics and there is no real filter there - it is raw and real stuff - especially the older stuff - so those are the things that make me Stapp happy! I think Mark is incredibly talented and very attractive, but I like passionate people and Scott wears his passion on his sleeve. It is merely a preference, I am not "anti-" anybody!

Now give Mark credit, he writes lyrics too as in he wrote the whole song, TORN. and he writes just about all the music. Mark is very personable and genuine (met/know the the guy), as far as Mr. Stapp... I've always felt was was very disconnected from everyone and in his own little world. He's not very well adjusted. I hope he finds his way. ;)

[creedlvr]

I am with you! I love Creed, it is the band as a whole that drew me in, but just like we aren't attracted to every person in the world for a mate etc, we will be drawn to certain people and characteristics over others. I don't know as much about Mark because he isn't as revealed as Stapp - mostly in my mind because Stapp writes the lyrics and there is no real filter there - it is raw and real stuff - especially the older stuff - so those are the things that make me Stapp happy! I think Mark is incredibly talented and very attractive, but I like passionate people and Scott wears his passion on his sleeve. It is merely a preference, I am not "anti-" anybody!

Exactly!!

[creedlvr]

... as far as Mr. Stapp... I've always felt was was very disconnected from everyone and in his own little world.

:confused:

[WeatheredWoman]

Yeah, exactly. That's the way I feel aswell, the whole band made me become a fan, not just Stapp, or Tremo, or Flip.


Then why didn't u call yourself "addicted2creed" ??? ;)

The same thing counts for "Creedsmymen" ;)

...."luvcreedforever" ...."CreedWanaB" etc. etc. hahahahaha and look at the Avatars :D

There's nothing wrong for lovin' Flip,Tremonti or Stapp more!!!! We all know that it's the whole band that brought us each one of them!!! CREED is very precious 2 me.. but what's wrong with lovin' Stappy just a little bit more????

In the end it's still the band that counts... :crest:

[WeatheredWoman]

I definitely agree that some people are clearly taking sides ... and ... I know I am one of the offenders.

Truthfully, I like them all ... together as Creed! Nothing would make me happier than to see this whole thing get worked out. It just breaks my heart to think that this might really be happening.

However, Stapp is absolutely the one who drew me in. Without him, I would still be a fan of the music but I would not feel the same passion as I do now. He just has such an incredible stage presence and charisma that I just can't ignore. I realize that he has made some pretty big mistakes and that he could possibly be the major contributor to some of these riffs. Still, I know that if they go their separate ways, while I will try my best to support all of them, for me it will be all about Scott.

It also seems like since this has happened, a lot more people are jumping on the "Mark bandwagon" then the "Scott bandwagon." I've said it before and I'll say it again ... I tend to stick by the underdog. And in this case, it seems like that person is Scott. I feel like he can use all the support he can get. Now granted ... he very well may have brought this on himself. I'm really not intentionally taking sides, but I have to admit that I find it difficult not to. I just don't like some of the things that people are saying about Scott. It's almost as though people are abandoning him. Please don't think I am lumping everyone in this category ... I know that there are still very many supporters of his on this board.

I do have to admit though, that Mark IS clearly more stable. Scott seems to be a pretty emotional person and doesn't handle tough situations very well. But for me, that just adds to the human side of him ... beyond the musician. It makes him seem more real ... again, just drawing me in deeper. It's like you really feel like you know him. I don't feel that connection with Mark or Flip. Don't get me wrong ... I think they are both great musicians and HUGE assets to Creed as a group. It's just that to me, they are guys in a band ... great guys ... and very talented guys ... but still, just guys. They don't really let you into their personal life. I'm not saying that's a bad thing ... I'm just saying that's why I don't feel the same connection. I do believe that they are vital to Creed (for obvious reasons) and even to Scott for that matter. It seems as though they keep him in check.

Again ... I just hope that it won't come down to anyone having to take sides because they will work this out and remain "Creed" as we know them!


Very well said ! ! ! :thumbsup:

[Creed_Defaultgirl]

Now, I think that Scott does have some emotional stress. I hope that doesn't cause him to be unhealthy, or do stupid things. I really do hope that he doesn't do anything that would hurt, most importantly, Jagger, or himself, the other bandmembers, or his career. Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone always will. Mark, I love him, he is such a great guitarist. Although I've never met him, from what I hear, he is an awesome person. I love them all, and y'know, it is hard to love them all exactly the same. Like someone else said, it's human nature. Sometimes, like when Scott is going through a bad time, I just want to reach out and give him a big hug. Same with Mark, and Flip. I do love them close to the same, but I would probably be lying if I said exactly. I'm not trying to critisize anyone who does pick sides, like Tremontiwannab, I understand how you feel. Mark is your rolemodel, and that's great! Mark is a great rolemodel! I sort of look up to Flip. He seems to be a real nice guy. Scott, I also look up to him, because from the story we all heard.....he seemed to be into the drugs a little, and bad habits, and he turned around. He had his mind set to making his living in a band, and did an awesome job at it too! It is possible if Scott hadn't been so pushy, CREED may not have made it this far. Mark, I really don't know that much about. I don't know anything about the guitar except it rocks, and nothing bout the drums, except they rock too! Mark is a great song writer, and he adds so much to CREED. That is some of my feeling toward this.

[PaulMcCoygirl]

I like 'em all! I agree that they all make up Creed. I think that they are all very talented and I'll support them in whatever career choice they make. :)

[creedsister]

there will always be sides taken that just the way it is and the way that it goes,,So when it all comes out in the whash,,if they br seprate or together,,all i can say come what may the show must go on,,and to each and every member of creed its the music whats that its importan not whos better than who and may the thunder roar from both sides,,and all i can say come what may ROCK ON ROCK ON AND ROCK ON :)

[WeatheredWoman]

may the thunder roar from both sides


Love that quote sistah!! :smokin:

[creedsister]

:smokin: straight up

[PaulMcCoygirl]

Well said creedsister! :clap:

[devils_here]

There's nothing wrong for lovin' Flip,Tremonti or Stapp more!!!! We all know that it's the whole band that brought us each one of them!!! CREED is very precious 2 me.. but what's wrong with lovin' Stappy just a little bit more????

:cheers: I couldn't agree with you more.

Creed as a whole drew me in back in '99' and I really didn't pay any close attention to any one member, but as time went on and they became more popular I have to admit that Scott Stapp captured me for all the reasons that people before me have stated. I would never bad mouth Mark or Flip but I am a Stapp Mama through and through. :naughty:

[WeatheredWoman]

:drunk2: Yo Stapp Mama!!! Cheers!!! ;)

[Kim V.]

I agree with Teri and LuvScott, I hate the idea of them being apart, but if going their own ways (for a short time) and exploring new things on their own will help in their growth as artists, so be it. Then maybe after they've satisfied the need to explore new horizons, they will realize that the sum of the parts together is something so magical and special, it can't be topped! CREED FOREVER!

[hayley]

Then why didn't u call yourself "addicted2creed" ??? ;)
lol...someone asked me that before...my original name that I wanted was actually addicted2creed, I was deciding on names and looking on Creed Pit for ideas, when I saw addicted2creed, and I thought that I don't really want to copy a name from someone else so I settled on addicted2stapp. :)

hahahahaha and look at the Avatars :D
That's just because I think Stapp is the better looking out of all 3 ;) :pant: But I have had Flip, Mark avies.

There's nothing wrong for lovin' Flip,Tremonti or Stapp more!!!! We all know that it's the whole band that brought us each one of them!!!
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with liking one more than the other, I never said that, it's just when it goes to far and divides people and fans, and siding starts, do you know what I mean?

[devils_here]

:drunk2: Yo Stapp Mama!!! Cheers!!! ;)

That's right baby :thumbsup: :laugh:

[SCOTTSMYMAN]

The same thing counts for "Creedsmymen"


I hear what you are saying! I love Creed as a whole but Scott drew me in with his voice. When I first saw him I thought THAT voice is coming out of THERE! As much as I love Flip and Mark, SCOTT'S MY MAN!!!!!! Hence my name! His just a beautiful specimen of man and I can't help myself! :pant: :pant: :pant:

[WeatheredWoman]

lol...someone asked me that before...my original name that I wanted was actually addicted2creed, I was deciding on names and looking on Creed Pit for ideas, when I saw addicted2creed, and I thought that I don't really want to copy a name from someone else so I settled on addicted2stapp. :)

Ok.. that makes sense!!


That's just because I think Stapp is the better looking out of all 3 ;) :pant:

You bet!!! :D


Yeah, there is nothing wrong with liking one more than the other, I never said that, it's just when it goes to far and divides people and fans, and siding starts, do you know what I mean?

Yeah I know what you mean girl.. I guess this all started with that poll: Who would be bigger?

[WeatheredWoman]

When I first saw him I thought THAT voice is coming out of THERE!

Exactly!!!! :wow:




His just a beautiful specimen of man and I can't help myself! :pant: :pant: :pant:

:wub: ... can't help myself either !!

[creedsister]

Exactly!!!! :wow:






:wub: ... can't help myself either !! HAHAHAHAHAHA

[JulieCitySlicker]

I've always been a Mark fan ;) :D I do still love em all to :cool:

[creedlvr]

When I first saw him I thought THAT voice is coming out of THERE!
:laugh:

That's SO funny to me because I thought the same thing!!!

[Creed_Defaultgirl]

I think Scott's voice is great for him! I know you're not saying it's not, but take a look at Dallas Smith (my avatar, and Default's lead singer) He is like, a wimpy guy, and his voice completely doesn't match. He looks way too small to do what he does! LOL, Scott, I think he matches his voice quite well!

[hayley]

Yeah you wouldn't think somone like Stapp would have a voice so powerful, but I guess as the saying goes, "Don't judge a book by it's cover" :D

[hayley]

Yeah I know what you mean girl.. I guess this all started with that poll: Who would be bigger?

Yeah true, that's probably where the whole thing started :(

[creedwisdom]

i said this in a post a week or so ago, but even though they are both and all amazing talents, magic is created when they work together they fulfill and complete each other artistically, and seem to balance one another personally....

i loved your post, creedlvr, i feel very much the same.

mark is truly a prodigy, and there is no doubt that any music he creates would utterly rock, but for me, that's all it would do without the deeper, more spiritual component in stapp's writing. on the flipside, without the phenominal "delicate force", as i call it, of mark's guitar, no one would take notice of the lyrics and the message.



mark is caring and stable. he doesn't have to work as hard at life as scott. the same emotion that brings brilliance to stapp's performing and writing causes him to be volatile and fragile. more dimensions of his humanity come through in everything he does--good and bad. i would not change a thing about the men who built this band, their uniqueness makes CREED unique. i only hope that down the road, after some time and space, they can rediscover their bond and once more create music like no one else.

[Creed_Defaultgirl]

Yeah

[Dogstar]

he doesn't have to work as hard at life as scott. the same emotion that brings brilliance to stapp's performing and writing causes him to be volatile and fragile

I'm not sure I agree with this. I mean, we don't really know how or what they do to survive life or how hard they have to work at it. I don't think emotion and volatility are exclusive to lyricists. There have been some pretty emotional guitar players/writers in the anals of rock.

[Creed_Defaultgirl]

Although, I did agree to that, I see where you are coming from Dogstar. Mark did write alot of the lyrics. I think they are both very emotional writers.

[Dogstar]

I just think it's hard for fans to really judge how a rockstar really deals. We only see/hear a small piece of them through their music and concerts. And that is through a performance vein. I don't know...I'm just rambling, hehe.

[creedsister]

:D :D i said this in a post a week or so ago, but even though they are both and all amazing talents, magic is created when they work together they fulfill and complete each other artistically, and seem to balance one another personally....

i loved your post, creedlvr, i feel very much the same.

mark is truly a prodigy, and there is no doubt that any music he creates would utterly rock, but for me, that's all it would do without the deeper, more spiritual component in stapp's writing. on the flipside, without the phenominal "delicate force", as i call it, of mark's guitar, no one would take notice of the lyrics and the message.



mark is caring and stable. he doesn't have to work as hard at life as scott. the same emotion that brings brilliance to stapp's performing and writing causes him to be volatile and fragile. more dimensions of his humanity come through in everything he does--good and bad. i would not change a thing about the men who built this band, their uniqueness makes CREED unique. i only hope that down the road, after some time and space, they can rediscover their bond and once more create music like no one else. :D :D ,,thats creed

[hide]

i still hope we get an album in 2005 but i guess i shouldn't hold my breath!

[facelessman]

meh

[creedlvr]

i said this in a post a week or so ago, but even though they are both and all amazing talents, magic is created when they work together they fulfill and complete each other artistically, and seem to balance one another personally....

i loved your post, creedlvr, i feel very much the same.

mark is truly a prodigy, and there is no doubt that any music he creates would utterly rock, but for me, that's all it would do without the deeper, more spiritual component in stapp's writing. on the flipside, without the phenominal "delicate force", as i call it, of mark's guitar, no one would take notice of the lyrics and the message.

mark is caring and stable. he doesn't have to work as hard at life as scott. the same emotion that brings brilliance to stapp's performing and writing causes him to be volatile and fragile. more dimensions of his humanity come through in everything he does--good and bad. i would not change a thing about the men who built this band, their uniqueness makes CREED unique. i only hope that down the road, after some time and space, they can rediscover their bond and once more create music like no one else.

well said! I agree! :thumbsup:

[GeeK_2004]

..."Human pride sings a vengeful song, Inspired by the times you've been walked on, My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because they feel this, We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on..."

[hayley]

i still hope we get an album in 2005 but i guess i shouldn't hold my breath!

Yeah I know what you mean, I am still hoping also, but I keep on thinking don't get too excited

[creedmarine81]

scotts voice and charisma bought me to creed along with his lyrics... scott should have kept his band and still been known as creed. he has the right. he is the lyricist and vocalist... his voice is what says to us "thats creed" not tremonti's guitar. So scott you da man leave da bums behind and continue creed you will still rock out!

[Agent D]

scotts voice and charisma bought me to creed along with his lyrics... scott should have kept his band and still been known as creed. he has the right. he is the lyricist and vocalist... his voice is what says to us "thats creed" not tremonti's guitar. So scott you da man leave da bums behind and continue creed you will still rock out!

Oh my god...

You did not just bump a four year old thread to post that incoherant dribble.

[creedmarine81]

oh my god why dont you stop dribbling over yourself you ignorant weirdo

[creedmarine81]

oh my god why dont you stop dribbling over yourself you ignorant weirdo

[J.T.]

oh my god why dont you stop dribbling over yourself you ignorant weirdo

That actually was really stupid to do. You bumped a 4 year old thread to say Stapp "was" Creed. Stapp wasn't Creed. Marks guitar was a huge part of Creed along with Stapps voice. Agent D was completely right.

[creedmarine81]

both you guys need to get off tremontis jockstrap and go listen to your def leppord cd's. get a life ya weirdnesses

[J-Man]

The only weirdo is you. You joined 8/7/07 just to start up crap. Why? Is it because AB has a new single and you're getting jealous at all of the attention they're getting? Get over it. As you can tell your meaningless posts are irritating people and you're making some stapp fans look bad too.

[Scorpion King]

Weirdnesses?

[J.T.]

both you guys need to get off tremontis jockstrap and go listen to your def leppord cd's. get a life ya weirdnesses

What? Lol. Are you serious? You just decided you would sign up to this site and start bashing Mark Tremonti and Alter Bridge? I'm a fan of both Stapp and Tremonti, but you're making Stapp fans look like retards.

[J.T.]

Sorry double post.

[Dogstar]

We all have our different reasons for liking Creed. For some, it was Stapp, for others, like me, it was Tremonti. We can discuss the differences, but let's keep it civil, ok? No name-calling, thanks. :)

[creedmarine81]

no probs .. in the words of cobain "all apologies".

[Dogstar]

:) By the way, welcome to the board!