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hayley
11-22-2003, 08:27 PM
Guys, I think obviously we need to stop the bickering and arguing. I hope I am not the only one who has sensed alot of tension on this board in the last couple of days, I certinatly have and I think we will all explode sooner or later if we let it carry on. I know it might be a way of expressing anger and you didn't mean it to be an argument. Like Dogstar said, it's very pointless, and it doesn't give the board a very nice feeling. Not that things have a nice feeling at the moment anyway, but it just makes it worse.

And remember, we are all Creed fans, we all love Creed. We are in this together, we shouldn't be fighting and arguing over disagreements. Yes, people will have different views on different situations, but it doesn't need to be argued about. Everyone is messed up right now, and we need to try and help each other out and we aren't doing that by arguing.

So this is kind of a peace thread. We all have the Creed love, let's share it and show the guys that we love them. Okay, no more arguing let's be sensible and discuss this the best we can. :)

I love all you guys I know this is a hard time but we gotta be strong for ourselves and for Creed. Everyone now say PEACE.

PEACE :)

marlsy
11-22-2003, 09:30 PM
yeah I agree, this is pretty stupid if you ask me, they are only a band.... not gods.... Yes we all love them, but come on, life will go on, no reason to think this , think that, blah blah blah....... Just chill

Creed_Defaultgirl
11-22-2003, 09:36 PM
Like one of America's slogans, "United we stand, Divided we fall."

hayley
11-22-2003, 11:15 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-marlsy+11-23-2003 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (marlsy @ 11-23-2003 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah I agree, this is pretty stupid if you ask me, they are only a band.... not gods.... [/b][/quote]
I am not talking about the way we are handling this, but the way we are arguing over pointless things. Disagreements, for example.

CreedKevin397
11-22-2003, 11:22 PM
very well said addicted2stapp...arguing about shit takes away the fun of being a community of fans. i think were also over-estimating the tension between bands members...i think they just decided to do their own thing for awhile, stapp probably wanted some more time off, while flip/tremo wanted to be making music...so it sounds like they are gonna take a break from eachother for awhile, pursue their own goals at their own pace...then come back together eventually. I don't think it was a big nasty break up or anything. Lets just be excited about the new music we are gonna hear, and keep the Creed Spirit.

hayley
11-22-2003, 11:30 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-CreedKevin397+11-23-2003 04:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CreedKevin397 @ 11-23-2003 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lets just be excited about the new music we are gonna hear, and keep the Creed Spirit. [/b][/quote]
lol I think some people aren't going to be happy with what you just said, that quote. See isn't it funny, we can't win either way. We would all be better off if we didn't talk about it all, but I don't see that happening.

CreedKevin, yes we should try to look forward to the music the members will be producing, I'm sure it's going to be just awesome, but it won't be the same. Not even near. It just won't be Creed. That may sound negitive, (sp) and I certinatly don't want to be like that, I am looking forward to their music, but can you understand when I say that it won't be the same? :dunno:

Like I keep on saying, this whole thing is just unbelievable :thud:

CreedKevin397
11-22-2003, 11:44 PM
haha....addicted2stapp...you totally arent getting me. you gotta try to get over it....be thankful for the fact that we had Creed and the 3 albums they put out, and who says its all over? maybe it is, maybe it isnt. if it is...then yea, i'm thankful for all of it, and thankful for witnessing two creed concerts, both of which really changed my life. and if it isnt over...then great, Creed goes on and we get solo projects...and we get new creed music, no matter what...on that anthology album. try and be optimistic about it.

as for the "Creed Spirit"...i meant that, does the positive meaning that Creed meant to convey mean nothing to you? theres no point in being down about all of this. We've been blessed with their music and message, and each of them are gonna continue with that. maybe seperately, maybe together again eventually...i dont know about anyone else, but i'm thankful.

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:01 AM
Of course I am thankful! Very much so. Creed have changed my life, and I will be enternaly greatful for that. They have made me look at life differently, and think differently of myself. They have saved me in times of need, and if I didn't have Creed then, well I wouldn't have made it through. I totally understand you when you talk about the Creed Spirit, I didn't mean to quote that, I just meant to quote the other part, sorry. But I totally feel the same way as you do. I love what Creed have done for me, and I can't express in words how they have made me feel.

I am thankful, but I can't get over it. I mean yeah, life goes on, but I can't see the light just at this moment. I am mourning and grieving. I will be for awhile, but it will wear off, I know it will, but not just yet.

There are still positive Creed vibes on this board, I know that and you know that, we are all greatful and thankful for what Creed have given all of us.

Delirium
11-23-2003, 12:06 AM
yeah

facelessman
11-23-2003, 12:07 AM
i agree, but you know what, sh!t happens, ya know

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:08 AM
Yeah, lol, shit happens, lots of shit

marlsy
11-23-2003, 12:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-CreedKevin397+11-22-2003 08:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CreedKevin397 @ 11-22-2003 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> haha....addicted2stapp...you totally arent getting me. you gotta try to get over it....be thankful for the fact that we had Creed and the 3 albums they put out, and who says its all over? maybe it is, maybe it isnt. if it is...then yea, i'm thankful for all of it, and thankful for witnessing two creed concerts, both of which really changed my life. and if it isnt over...then great, Creed goes on and we get solo projects...and we get new creed music, no matter what...on that anthology album. try and be optimistic about it.

as for the "Creed Spirit"...i meant that, does the positive meaning that Creed meant to convey mean nothing to you? theres no point in being down about all of this. We've been blessed with their music and message, and each of them are gonna continue with that. maybe seperately, maybe together again eventually...i dont know about anyone else, but i'm thankful. [/b][/quote]
I like the way you think, that is how I feel totally.

Delirium
11-23-2003, 12:14 AM
lol, there is like a forum war between the tremonti fans and the stapp fans.

Well not really but it'd be funny

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:19 AM
Well I'm not ganging up on anyone, I'm not picking sides, until I know the full story. And even then, might not be reason to pick sides.

facelessman
11-23-2003, 12:31 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Delirium+11-23-2003 12:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Delirium @ 11-23-2003 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol, there is like a forum war between the tremonti fans and the stapp fans.

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thats exactly what it is. by reading all the posts, you can tell whos like Mark more, or who likes Stapp more

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:33 AM
Okay then, who do I like more? Stapp, or Tremonti?

Delirium
11-23-2003, 12:36 AM
*starts swinging a clock hypnotically*

you like Tremonti more.

facelessman
11-23-2003, 12:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-23-2003 12:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-23-2003 12:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay then, who do I like more? Stapp, or Tremonti? [/b][/quote]
hmmm thats a hard one... :confused:

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:40 AM
I don't like either of them more than the other. I tend to think of them as both equal, and if someone sides with one when they don't know the full story, I just think it's unfair.

hayley
11-23-2003, 12:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-facelessman+11-23-2003 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (facelessman @ 11-23-2003 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-23-2003 12:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-23-2003 12:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay then, who do I like more? Stapp, or Tremonti? [/b][/quote]
hmmm thats a hard one... :confused: [/b][/quote]
I'm taking that with a hint of sarcasim? lol

facelessman
11-23-2003, 12:44 AM
not at all, not at all...

Delirium
11-23-2003, 12:57 AM
ok well lyrically they are both very good. Singing wise Stapp is better. Guitar wise Mark is better. Personality wise i have no idea whatsoever. But i prefer Guitar skill over a voice so i like tremonti.

facelessman
11-23-2003, 01:14 AM
im not goin to reveal who i like better. lets just say im goin to remain "faceless"

hayley
11-23-2003, 01:58 AM
I just don't understand how some people can say I like Mark better, or I like Stapp better, it doesn't make sence to me. We are CREED lovers, we should treat the band with equal love. Not siding after this has happened.

Delirium
11-23-2003, 02:46 AM
I like Mark better

hayley
11-23-2003, 02:48 AM
lol

Dogstar
11-23-2003, 02:53 AM
"There's a peace inside us all, let it be your friend"--CREED!

:hugs:

Creed_Defaultgirl
11-23-2003, 02:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Delirium+11-23-2003 12:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Delirium @ 11-23-2003 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ok well lyrically they are both very good. Singing wise Stapp is better. Guitar wise Mark is better. [/b][/quote]
I agree with that. I think I love them about the same. I've always looked at it like, they all have their differences, they're similarities, But they are Creed. I pretty much have loved them as a whole. I don't really know what they are like in person, so I can't say, "oh I like mark because he's a better person" or anything like that. (I can't sing worth a crap, I can't drum or play the guitar at all, so I can't say I like one or the other better because of skill) From what I know, they sound like good people, down to earth, smart ect ect. It all just kindof equals out, Scott is THE best singer, Mark is THE guitar playing guy, and Flip is THE best drummer! But hey, that's just my opinion :glasses:

jimmy2sacs
11-23-2003, 03:13 AM
WOW, Im gone for a few months and this board is going to hell. whats this arguing and rumors im seeing? I need somebody to explain this to me.

Wylde-Tremonti
11-23-2003, 02:02 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-23-2003 12:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-23-2003 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just don't understand how some people can say I like Mark better, or I like Stapp better, it doesn't make sence to me. We are CREED lovers, we should treat the band with equal love. Not siding after this has happened. [/b][/quote]
but you have to ask yourself..."why Do You Like CREED?" .....
my answer is..." because the Guitars are KICK ASS"
i love stapp's lyrics....but the guitars are why i've stuck w/ creed....if creed didn't have Mark.....there's no way i would listen to them....if creed had a dif singer....i'd definately listen to it.....

facelessman
11-23-2003, 10:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Delirium+11-23-2003 12:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Delirium @ 11-23-2003 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Singing wise Stapp is better. Guitar wise Mark is better. [/b][/quote]
well of course! if that wasnt the case, mark would be singing and scott would be playing guitar

facelessman
11-23-2003, 10:10 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-23-2003 01:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-23-2003 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just don't understand how some people can say I like Mark better, or I like Stapp better, it doesn't make sence to me. [/b][/quote]
well, its not like your name is addicted2tremonti, ya know

facelessman
11-23-2003, 10:12 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-jimmy2sacs+11-23-2003 03:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jimmy2sacs @ 11-23-2003 03:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WOW, Im gone for a few months and this board is going to hell. whats this arguing and rumors im seeing? I need somebody to explain this to me. [/b][/quote]
sh!t happens, ya know

hayley
11-23-2003, 10:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-facelessman+11-24-2003 03:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (facelessman @ 11-24-2003 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-23-2003 01:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-23-2003 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just don't understand how some people can say I like Mark better, or I like Stapp better, it doesn't make sence to me. [/b][/quote]
well, its not like your name is addicted2tremonti, ya know [/b][/quote]
When I first got into Creed, it was like Stapp this, Stapp that. Scott Stapp drew me to Creed with his voice. Tremonti drew me even more to Creed with his guitaring. And Flip drew me even more into Creed with his drumming. Stapp did used to be my favourite, yes, he stood out to me, but now they are equal as I have had time to know what kind of people the band members are. Now they are all equal. And I chose addicted2stapp, I wanted it to be addicted2creed but someone already had that on Creedpit and I didn't want to copy :lol:

facelessman
11-23-2003, 11:33 PM
hmmm...ok ill accept that

hayley
11-24-2003, 12:07 AM
Go and search on Creedpit if you want, if you don't believe me. I think it was Creedpit, yeah pretty sure.

And yes like I have always been saying, I treat them all equaly and I think anyone who sides is being really stupid because no one knows the full story. :)

facelessman
11-24-2003, 12:11 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-addicted2stapp+11-24-2003 12:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (addicted2stapp @ 11-24-2003 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Go and search on Creedpit if you want, if you don't believe me. I think it was Creedpit, yeah pretty sure.

And yes like I have always been saying, I treat them all equaly and I think anyone who sides is being really stupid because no one knows the full story. :) [/b][/quote]
nah im believe ya. i was just messin around

hayley
11-24-2003, 12:23 AM
:D Cool. Peace, lol

facelessman
11-24-2003, 12:37 AM
:banana:

Delirium
11-24-2003, 12:53 AM
http://forums.networknext.com/pcpp/images/avatars/5699838493fb6c6ac759c8.gif

sorry i thought it fit well with faceless man's image :|

facelessman
11-24-2003, 06:02 PM
what the crap?!
haha thats kinda funny, but the banana doesnt like it
:banana:

hayley
11-24-2003, 10:24 PM
:lol: That was pretty funny

And facelessman don't lie, the banana loves it...you know it does

facelessman
11-24-2003, 10:41 PM
nah the banana is a pimp
:banana: :pimp:

mushroomy2k
11-30-2003, 01:00 PM
creed has uniting all as one body many friends have
been created here and on many mb.