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Stephen@UK
10-11-2002, 03:19 PM
Hey all

i was just wondering if creed where known by many people. see i
live in scotland and no one has ever heard of creed before.
where i live it is full of pop fans i mean hundreds of millions of them. they love people like... well there crap anyway not worth mentioning.so i was wondering if they where popular in the states even remotely...

People here are very slowly liking people like slipknot,Linkin Park
Papa Roach,Lost Prophets and Tenacious D so they have not heard of creed at all With Arms Wide Open generated some fans and some stayed with creed and most did not Higher was virtually
Unknown in this country

please reply about how creed is popular in your area

Creeds#1
10-11-2002, 03:38 PM
Hmm- one of rocks biggest fan bases in the U.S. - yah I would call them pretty popular

Unforgiven Fan
10-11-2002, 03:58 PM
In my opinon:

creed has something that no other band as and it is weirder than anything out there...

Creed has a huge following and a big fan base but, in my opinon, saying I like Creed might get you the wrong the response sometimes. The media says we like Creed, we like their music, but they stabb Creed in the back by insulting them. I don't know how to describe it but they are popular but their is some weird twist it...

Dogstar
10-11-2002, 04:21 PM
Well said, Unforgiven. It's popular with regard to record and concert ticket sales, so they do have quite a following. But I take daily bashing for liking them. People call their music pseudo rock and criticize them for being Pearl Jam rip-offs (mainly because of Stapp's allegedly sounding and acting like Eddie Vedder), blah, blah, blah. The media have grudgingly accepted the fact that they are popular, but they do rip their music and their concerts regularly, particularly Scott Stapp. They have said he has a Jesus-complex and that he is an egomaniac and such. They sort of belittle the fans by making us sound like a bunch of "followers" of his message. I think he just tries to be positive, he loves making music and he wants to make a living at it.

jrsman12
10-11-2002, 04:54 PM
Creed is the most popular rock band in the states. Their music is so amazing, it took the country by storm. Rolling Stone magazine (the most read rock magazine in the world) called them "The biggest rock band in America" VH1, the rock TV station said "In 2ooo, the new breed [of rock music] was led by Creed. Scott Stapp's amazing and unmatched voice is so strong and powerful, and Mark Tremonti's guitar talent puts him up there with Jimi Hendrix, and Eric Clapton. And, behind it all, Scott Phillips's rhythmic durmming ties it all together. We Creeders number over 2 million in the States alone, and every time Creed releases a new album, it goes Multi-Platinum. Every new single hits number 1. Creed is more than popular. They are the next Beatles.

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jrsman12
10-11-2002, 04:56 PM
By the way, Scottland is great, love the bagpipes.
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creedfreak
10-11-2002, 07:49 PM
I just dont understand why MTV doesn't except them not like it matters. MTV is for kiddie bop crap anyway :crying:

Dogstar
10-11-2002, 08:26 PM
MTV=sellout

Wylde-Tremonti
10-11-2002, 09:15 PM
correct me if I'm wrong........but didn't creed do the MTV Making the Video for My Sacrifice.................are you trying to say something?????????????

Dogstar
10-11-2002, 09:20 PM
Don't know whether you are addressing me, but I'm just saying MTV sold out years ago. It was good for a couple years, before they started having commercials. Most of what they have now doesn't have a lot to do with music. I don't watch it now anway because I don't have cable.

I believe Creed had a lot of trouble in the beginning trying to get their stuff on MTV and that they became successful despite not having the MTV exposure early on. It's just as well if they're not on MTV.

Wylde-Tremonti
10-11-2002, 09:23 PM
Oh ok......I guess i wasn't quite sure where you were goin w/ that........

Dogstar
10-11-2002, 09:26 PM
Sorry...didn't mean to confuse.:) Though some have accused Creed of selling out by doing stuff like MTV Making the Video and Weathered in general. Some say the CD is more commercially friendly. Not sure whether I buy that it's more commercially friendly, maybe a few tracks, but I admit to liking MOP the best.

Wylde-Tremonti
10-11-2002, 09:30 PM
Same here! especially the guiatrs! Mark just riffed it up!

SweetXtreme4
10-12-2002, 11:52 AM
Yes! pretty popular! there in the Top 40, always on the radio. Yes I would consider Creed VERY popular!

Aimee
10-12-2002, 12:00 PM
A long time ago when Creed first came out, Mtv asked them to cancel a gig to do something for them. CREED said no and was on the shitlist for a really long time. It wasn't until VH1 picked them up and then the Rolling Stone cover that they tucked their tail between their legs and came back.
Stephen, what is Scotland like? My Great Grandmother came to America from Cork and she told such wonderful stories about riding horses on a green countryside when she was young. I would love to visit someday.

CreedSpirit
10-12-2002, 06:08 PM
It's too bad that the people of Scotland are missing out on Creed's music ~ Might have something to do with the promotions overseas as well as the fact that they changed there plans for touring in Europe after the car accident.

I think that as soon as they put out a CREED LIVE DVD ~ that will probably get them more exposure tied in with another event that might be aired overseas.

Can't wait to see them next weekend (((praying that Scott is well & healthy))) in Salt Lake City and in Los Angeles!

:dancing:

Read JDM
10-12-2002, 11:02 PM
As others in this thread have already alluded to, Creed is an unpopularly popular band in the USA. They sell far and away the most records of any modern rock group, and they're known to have the largest fan base, but yet you'd be hard-pressed to find a fan if you looked for one at random. In fact, I only know of two people who like them, one being my brother, the other being his best friend.

They've suffered, so to speak, from this false perception that they're a Christian band, when, in fact, they're a band that happens to be comprised of people with Christian backgrounds who are willing to touch upon issues of faith and consequence in their songs. In truth, a Christian band is a band with a Christian agenda (for better or worse, depending on your tastes and philosophies), and so, Creed is not a Christian band. Still, people will believe what they want to believe, and it's drawn a real line between those who like Creed and those who don't. There's not much of an in-between to speak of.

This is the only reasonable explanation for the fact that plenty of people who don't like them sincerely seem to hate them. I mean, I know of a good number of people who like bands and songs very similar to Creed but yet they despise Creed, and there's nothing else I can think of that would make them dislike Creed like they do. It's a shame, too, because Creed kicks major ass.

TeriB19
10-12-2002, 11:34 PM
That is exactly right Read. But what I still cannot figure out is why those that don't like Creed don't just dislike them, they are HATED. I don't understand the hatred? It seems that, in this country at least, you either LOVE Creed, their positive messages, their soulful lyrics and awesome music, or you just HATE them. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground on the issue.

Dogstar
10-13-2002, 03:05 AM
Most of the Creed haters I know say when they hear a Creed song on the radio they change the station. And Read, you are so right. They will mention other bands they like that have very similar sounds to Creed. The three or four who give me grief for my love of Creed say they can't stand Scott Stapp and his so-called posturing. What I think is that they have bought into the media bashing and the Christian band perception. When I try to defend their hard-rock side, the bashers laugh at me. I try to get them to tell me how many songs they have heard, and they only mention some of the lighter radio songs. The whole thing is weird. I think there are a lot of closet Creed fans, who say they hate the band, but probably have the CDs, which would explain the record sales. I think it's just hip to be a Creed hater for some reason.

TeriB19
10-13-2002, 04:18 AM
I think you are absolutely right. There is no way that their record sales could possibly be that high, when we can count on one hand the number of admitted Creed fans around us in our everyday lives. Unless we fans are buying up dozens of copies of the CDs, which I find hard to believe.

Dogstar
10-13-2002, 04:50 AM
Outside of the people on this board, the only Creed fans among my friends and family are one male friend, my sister, two nephews and a niece. That's it. Every one of my friends say they hate them.

TeriB19
10-13-2002, 05:11 AM
One of my best friends and I were on the phone back in '99 and I mentioned WAWO on the radio and she just went on about how she had seen them in Camden from the 3rd row and we just went on and on about them. Another of my friends was at Universal last Oct. when I was at Disney. She called me at the hotel and told me that she had seen Creed filming a video for their new single, had I ever heard of them. So there are 2 of my closest friends and I never knew they liked Creed because we never had reason to discuss them. (we email and talk on the phone on occasion, but not as often as we'd like).

Aimee
10-13-2002, 11:04 AM
I was in a chat room not too long ago and people were talking about music. I mentioned Creed, and of course people were lke "Creed? ewww" So I said, "Why is it so cool to hate Creed?" And they were like, you mean the Christian band? And I start defending that and then play ONE for them. After the song was over, someone goes, "Oh that was a good song." And that was it. I guess people are really afraid of bands that are labeled as Christian because they don't seem to fit the whole bad ass image that rock-n-roll is. (Think Stryper :rolleyes: ) We can thank the media for that. What I don't understand is where this trend started in the first place unless it was the bad Rolling Stone reviews over and over and over (until Human Clay got huge of course!). Anyone remember?

Read JDM
10-13-2002, 12:34 PM
Well, in going back to the whole misconception about Creed being a Christian band, I think they've gotten bad press for the same reason Christians in general have gotten bad press. I think there's this belief out there that if you're Christian then you're going to try and preach to people. I don't necessarily think this is true, but lots of folks do. So, if people are under the impression that Creed are a Christian band, then they're also under the impression that Creed is just a bunch of Jesus freaks who are trying to brainwash kids with their music or something. It's pretty ridiculous, if you want my opinion, especially when you consider that it's a lot better to be brainwashed by someone with values than someone without them (hypothetically speaking, since I don't believe Creed's trying to brainwash anyone at all). To me, the beauty of My Own Prison -- the entire album, but especially the song itself -- is just the fact that it's a frank discussion on how having faith is hard.

jrsman12
10-13-2002, 12:38 PM
I agree w/ you completely, my firend, right on.

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Dogstar
10-13-2002, 04:16 PM
To me, the beauty of My Own Prison -- the entire album, but especially the song itself -- is just the fact that it's a frank discussion on how having faith is hard.

YES!