What is the real deal about Brain Marshall?

[JenRN]

What is the REAL story on why Brian Marshall is no longer with the band? I don't think I have the whole story? Was there a dissagreement or something? Please someone inform me!~ thanks~:)

[Bridge of Clay]

money...

Tremonti and Stapp royallties were bigger, since they´re the ones who write the songs... Marshall wanted an equal share for everybody...

[JenRN]

Really? Hugh that sucks!!!! What about Flip? Hey the band could not survive without him! Flip needs all the credit he can get! :P

[Tremontichik006]

i agree with u jenRN flip is a major part of the band... i think they should split the money equally but then again, mark and scott do write all the songs... :rolleyes:

[Bridge of Clay]

I dunno... I think Flip has no problem with it, he´s there for the music not the money... :)

Coz on weathered, the guys created Tremonti / Stapp Music ... to take care of their songwriting...

There are rumors Brian left coz he was on drugs too... As I said, those are hoaxes. We can´t know if they´re true...

[DangerousDan85]

Brian Marshall has a nipple ring

[JenRN]

I have mixed feelings about this money thing! I feel that the band is made up of 4 people the band should split the money equally, the could not have gotten big without each other. Then on the other hand I fell that if someone does most of the work and writing it should be a little more for those individuals. I don't know, it is a tough area.... money that is!:( I feel at work that nurses should get more money than others in the healthcare field, we do all the work, BUT....... it just is something you have to "deal with" don't like it to much but I deal with it, don't have a choice!:mad: It is a shame that had to happen with Brain, he was a great bassist!

[hotforscott]

Didn't he make some sort of comment about Pearl Jam also, or something that Scott felt represented them wrongly. I think he said something derogitory about Eddie Vedder and then Scott felt that that was not the way he wanted people to think of the band (making rude comments) and I thought there was a disagreement over it and he left the band. I am not sure.

[Sheila63]

Originally posted by hotforscott
Didn't he make some sort of comment about Pearl Jam also, or something that Scott felt represented them wrongly. I think he said something derogitory about Eddie Vedder and then Scott felt that that was not the way he wanted people to think of the band (making rude comments) and I thought there was a disagreement over it and he left the band. I am not sure.

That's what I've heard too but sometimes it's hard to know what to believe unless you hear it from the horse's mouth.

I'm with you on the money matters, Jen. It can be a hard issue to deal with.

[hotforscott]

I know it is hard to tell unless you hear it from that person.


I know money issues can make things tough, I think that they probably all get paid equally, I would think. I mean, as close as they are, I am not sure anyone is getting the shaft. Scott singing and writing, Mark playing and writing and then Flip busting his ass out there non-stop on the drums. I honestly think it's probably equal pay, he works so hard out there playing the drums, I am sure he is the most worn out when the night is over.

[faceless kiwi]

I think it was probably a combination of things.
But Brians comments about pearl jam, saying in an interview that stapp is a far superior songwriter or singer or whatever than eddie probably was the last straw. Seeing stapp had to apoligize on creeds official website.

[Said Eyes]

Ok, so Brian Marshall is doing a phone in interview with the morning crew at The End radio in Seattle. They talk about the Pearl Jam comparison, to which Brian replies "Eddie Vedder wishes he could write like Stapp".

That was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. There was a lot of things going on, here's what Mark Tremonti said to the same guys a few months later:

Mark Tremonti said this about Robocop:
he didn't really care about what he said too much, and that really bothered me personally

in response to
why couldn't he just be defending his band? I mean the guy loves his band, he thinks it's a great if he thinks its better than pearl jam so what?

Mark Tremonti said this about Robocop:
Yeah, but even if you think your better than, you know, Metallica or anybody, you should keep your mouth shut, and keep it to yourself because that would offend a lot of people. It's just something you shouldn't say, but like you said, that wasn't the reason he got kicked out of the band, it was just a chemistry thing, we just were all different people and we grew into different people throughout the process of learning how to be in a rock band for a career and people change.

[hotforscott]

Thanks guys! I appreciate the info.

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Originally posted by hotforscott
Didn't he make some sort of comment about Pearl Jam also, or something that Scott felt represented them wrongly. I think he said something derogitory about Eddie Vedder and then Scott felt that that was not the way he wanted people to think of the band (making rude comments) and I thought there was a disagreement over it and he left the band. I am not sure.
about the whole Vedder thing....the DJ that was interviewing was totally edgin him on...i heard that interview......i was so pissed at that dj...there's no way brian would have said those things unless the DJ hadn't provoked him.....

[JenRN]

It is a real shame is all I have to say! Thanks for the info guys!:)

[hotforscott]

I didn't know that Matt. That is crazy. I wonder if there was more to it then that. Like Said Eyes said, it was the straw that broke the camels back. There could have been a lot going on that we are unaware of. It must not have been too horrible though if they are still friends. I heard somewhere that they still talk. Thanks again!

[hide_tremonti]

Looking back at the lawsuit, I think that Tremonti and Stapp don't write ALL the songs...Brian must've written some off it...maybe he's pissed cause he didn't get his royalties...

[Lucy]

I always thought it happened for a combination of things...
The Pearl Jam thing, the money thing...

[NCCOOLJ98]

As much as I like Creed as a whole, Creed would have and still will be succesful with Stapp, Tremonti, and any 2 other guys.

[CREED FANTASY]

Personally, I think you need Stapp, Tremonti, Flip and someone else. There music with the three of them is excellent too..... The more people involved the more royalties, the more money to split? Personalities to clash!!! I am not knocking Stapp but he looks like he can be a hard person to get along with either he likes you or he'll punch you out (ha ha lol) Just a little joke please dont take this personall I am a big creed lover and I am not knocking them....

[DangerousDan85]

i took that personal ;) not really

[Bridge of Clay]

yeah, but the PJ thing was a coincidence (bad)... if he had said that and things were ok, he would be in the band today... but as Said Eyes posted, Mark was being bothered, probably the others too... maybe they´ll reunite some time in the future... :)

but the PJ thing WASN´T the main reason... coz Brian defended Stapp, so Stapp should appreciate that comment but not kick him out... if he kicked him out... Stapp could have said "oh, thanks mate, but be careful with this comments about other bands"...

[JenRN]

I am sure there is much more to the story than we can only imagine!!!!

[hotforscott]

I am sure there is, too!

[CREED FANTASY]

THERE ALWAYS IS;)

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
<b>but the PJ thing WASN´T the main reason... coz Brian defended Stapp, so Stapp should appreciate that comment but not kick him out... if he kicked him out... Stapp could have said "oh, thanks mate, but be careful with this comments about other bands"... </b>
Yeah...i never thought of it that way....Good Point!

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Originally posted by NCCOOLJ98
As much as I like Creed as a whole, Creed would have and still will be succesful with Stapp, Tremonti, and any 2 other guys.
i disagree...i think that Flip is very key in there success....