Why?

[hockeysue]

I am a mother of three beautiful kids . They are 6,5 and four. I gained 70 pounds when I had them. I weighed 110 before I had my 6 year old. All three kids were over 9 .5 pounds when they were born . My weight made people look at me different . THe clothes I could wear were different .My ex husband looked and treated me differently. I lost all of the weight except 10 pounds but the hurt still is there. I did not become a different person.
I see alot of shirtless pics of Scott STapp. He looks great in all. No one says leave your shirt on you look gross. At the Chicago show alot of people seemed grossed out at Scotts beer belly and his white chest. Would people have been so upset about Scott taking his shirt off if it was tanned and skinny like the pictures? If he looked better I do not thank some people would have cared that he took off his shirt. If it was me I would feel like a piece of crap. Just like my ex and strangers made me feel after my weight gain.I guess that is the price of fame for SCott, sometimes you are treated as a piece of meat.
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[Dogstar]

It is indeed unfortunate how much emphasis our society puts on physical appearances and how cruel people can be simply because of what a person looks like. As I have said before, I fell in love with Creed sight unseen. It was the music that drew me in. I didn't even know their names; all I knew was that I loved their sound. That was enough for me.

[hockeysue]

Thanks Dogstar. I will admit I like the way Scott looks. But if he wants to take his shirt off with a beer belly, I say go for it . More to cuddle.
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[Dogstar]

Amen to that. I know we all talk about how hot he is, but really, he could be the most hideous looking man on the planet and I wouldn't care. It's that voice I love.

[PaulMcCoygirl]

Some people are just so shallow that they only look at beauty first before personality. It's sad how looks determine the kind of person you are. :(

[ronda]

Hockeysue,
It is sad you are feeling this way after you ,have maybe put on a few pounds or your shape changed. Our world certainly does put too much hype on what we look like. We can not all look like the 15% of the super skinny beautiful people the press bombards us with. I think since we have TV and magazines that the average person is not appreciated for the PERSON they are.

As for Scott, he is only human. We can not expect them to airbrush him live. In the magizines they can airbrush you to be perfect. He looked a bit pale, no suprise to me, it is the dead of winter . LOL People have been hard on him about his apperance allot of emphisis on the weight issue. I think once you close your eyes and listen to the music the physical apperance does not matter. Of course it does not hurt that Scott is Very good looking, shirt or no shirt !

[TeriB19]

I liked them sight unseen as well. I heard and loved many of their songs without ever knowing what they looked like. Once I saw them and realized how great looking they all are, that was like an added bonus.

It IS sad that we are all held to the standards of what is coming out in the next Vogue magazine. That's not real. Size 12-14 is real. That's the real average size of the American woman, but we don't seem to be able to accept that because the magazines tell us we're nothing if not razor thin. I personally find Calista Flockhart sickening to look at. A good strong fart would blow her away.

[ronda]

Teri,
You are funny.
I agree!!!!
I think the way someone looks is a bonus. ANd boy oh boy,,, Scott got the bonus going on.....

[Sheila63]

I totally agree with everyone, especially Dogstar and TeriB. Like the both of you, I fell in love with Creed before I had any idea what any of them looked like. It was Scott's voice, the lyrics and the music that drew me to the band first and foremost. Rock On!!!:dancing:

[JenRN]

I as well fell in love with them before I ever saw them!:rolleyes: It is plain and simply discusting how people treat over weight people! A co-worker I work with is having gastric bypass surgery Monday and she is literally ridiculed by the doctors on my floor because of her weight! They will seek out other nurses for help and you can see the discust in their eyes when they look at her, it REALLY pisses me off! She is a beautiful person inside and out to me and I could care less how she looks! As far as Scott, well he would look great to me no matter what! His spirit is so bright it literally blinds me sometimes! So he has a little belly, who cares! I myself personally hate men who are skinny runts! I love a nice muscular meaty man!:rolleyes: He lookes pretty incredible to me close up these past few concerts, I literally got butterflies looking at him so close! **sigh** memories!:D

[TeriB19]

I have always been short and have never been skinny. So when I got pregnant with Jenn, I put on 50 pounds. I could tell a difference in the way people looked at me late in my pregnancy. When I came back from my LOA at work, no one ever said anything to my face, but there was another girl who had gone out on pregnancy leave right before I came back and they said the most awful things about her weight gain after she left. So I always shy away from discussing those matters. I don't care what a person's size is, I would never look with disgust upon someone who is bigger. I have always had a weight problem and been sensitive about it. I know how painful it is to be overweight, and I would never want to cause someone else that sort of pain.

[Dogstar]

Same here, Teri. I have struggled with my weight and have been called nasty names over the years because of it: thunder thighs, blubber butt, you name it. People can be so cruel. I get eally irritated with people who judge others simply because they don't fall into the *beautiful people* category. And people can be so judgmental about it. There was an Oprah show the other day about obese women and they interviewed people on the street about what they think when they see an obese person. I couldn't believe the things they said, from making comments about what they should and shouldn't eat to attacking their characters simply because of their weight. Unless they know why the person is obese (and it shouldn't matter anyway), then they shouldn't say anything.

[hotforscott]

I think it has a lot to do with how you are raised. I am not overweight by any means, I am underweight. I always have been, but I would NEVER look at a person differently because of their weight or physical appearance and that is because I was raised to feel good about myself and to be friends with everyone regardless of what people said or thought. I do worry about my appearance, I like to look good and some may think that it is dumb for me to worry so much, but I am not one who is so shallow or insecure that I feel the need to make other's hurt to make myself feel better. I think some people weren't raised to be decent and have morals, or if there parents tried and they were raised right, they may have steered off with the wrong crowd. I was a military brat so I moved around A LOT growing up and it taught me to be very open-minded and very outgoing. That is why I never understood Cliques, in high school. I mean, I was friends with EVERYBODY. I did cheer my whole life and I had a few friends on the squad, but I didn't ditch my friends who didn't cheer or who were considered less popular then others. It caused lots of petty, childish arguments, but I am one who does what I want to do and if I click with someone who is not accepted by others, then so be it. I want to be with people I enjoy being with and have fun with. Let the miserable people hang out somewhere else.

[Dogstar]

Well said, hotforscott!

[hotforscott]

Thank ya, thank ya very much!

We need an Elvis smiley!

[Sheila63]

Originally posted by JenRN
I as well fell in love with them before I ever saw them!:rolleyes:  It is plain and simply discusting how people treat over weight people!... As far as Scott, well he would look great to me no matter what! His spirit is so bright it literally blinds me sometimes! :D

I couldn't agree with you more, Jen. I'm overweight right now and am working on losing weight, more for my health than anything else. I do my best to treat everyone the same, regardless of their appearance. You can't judge a book by it's cover, the saying goes and I've found that to be very true. As for Scott, I love your quote about his spirit!! That's how I feel about him too, his spirit just blew me away at the NYE show. I unfortunately wasn't as close to the stage as I would have like to have been but from what I saw through my binoculars, he looked mighty fine!! I just hope the next time, I'll be in the pit so I'll have a better view and won't need the binoculars!!! ;)

[njcreedite]

I was up close (about 3 feet away) at the NYE show... Scott looked, acted, and sounded great. I agree, it's whats on the inside that should count. People are just very critical, exspecially if someone is famous. They build them up so they can knock them down:mad: Don't understand why....
Remember why you fell in love with Creed? The music. That's all that really matters, not their looks. That's just bonus.:wow:

[mommydutson]

i am a mother of 5 i was very thin about 132 (5'7' and big bones)
until i had my first i seemed preg all the time and gained a lot of weight having them my youngest is now 3 and i am just starting to lose the weight. PPL treat me different because i was/am big and look at you like you are a freak. over the years i would tourtute myself trying to be the thin is in person and finally have given up. I am still detirmined to lose the last 25 pounds but not because of others but for myself.Screw you if you don't like the way i look. it is what is inside that counts and not to toot my own horn but I AM BEAUTIFUL!!!

[TeriB19]

I agree with you 100% MD!! I am probably about 35 pounds overweight right now, but I feel good, I go to the gym, I work on getting myself in better shape. If the scale still says I'm overweight but I feel good and people tell me that I look good, screw the scale. And screw those that think the perfect woman is a size 6. (NO offense to the size 6 women on the bb, you are beautiful as well!!)

[hotforscott]

LOL, Teri, I don't think anyone who is a size 6 would take offense. I need to be about a size 6, For me a 3 is too big, a 1, I can fit in, but I'm not into the tight stuff so a 2 is about right, but I am working on putting some meat on my bones. I am way too tiny. You can't see my ribs or anything, I wear it well (LOL), but I could stand to gain a couple of pounds. Everyone always says, "you look great to have had 2 kids!," but they don't understand that doctors consider being underweight just as unhealthy as being overweight and I have to hear about it everytime I go to the doctor.

[creedlvr]

Everyone is saying that Scott has a bit of a beer belly. I saw him on NYE. I had already seen him on the Billboard awards and knew that the medicine he's taking was making his face puffy. I read the reviews of the "C" concert where people were saying rude things like "Scott ... please put your shirt back on! You lost your 'sixpack' abs!" So at the NYE concert, I paid extra attention to his body (yeah ... that was REALLY the only reason! ;)) and I really didn't think he looked at all like he had any kind of beer belly.

I'm not sure were everyone is coming from with this. I mean ... it is obvious that he isn't as trim as he was a few years ago, but I wouldn't say he has a beer belly.

oh well ... I love him anyway!

[TeriB19]

I didn't see one either. I think people see what they want to see, especially if they are pissed. Then if they see a pimple, they scream that he has a horrible case of acne and is taking pills to clear up all the zits. Things just get blown way way way way out of proportion.

[JenRN]

Yeah Screw what the scales say!:mad: I hate the scale, barely ever get on it! I think every woman in our society has been on a diet on time or another. I myself am trying to loose weight but I am looking at it from the standpoint of "healthy lifestyle" Dieting is not healthy nor does it last. MODERATION is the key I firmly believe! Like Atkins diet soooooo unrealistic, think about eating bacon and cheese all the time and no veggies:eek: it is REALLY bad for you, I have seen people coming inot the hospital with kidney problems because of the protein amount they eat on Atkins! Like everyone says I believe overweight WOMEN are sterotyped much more than needed, hey how do you not know they have a real problem, like hormonal or something? I go through life treating others like I want to be treated. Has anyone seen the movie Shallow Hal? The one with Gwenyth Paltrow, it shows how she was treated when grossly obese, really showed how Shallow people really are!

[hotforscott]

Yep, that movie made people see bow it felt on the other side.

[Siana]

Originally posted by PaulMcCoygirl
Some people are just so shallow that they only look at beauty first before personality. It's sad how looks determine the kind of person you are. :(

you're so right!too sad,but it happens to all of us :(