Statement coming soon

[Dogstar]

Just thought I'd pass this along. I e-mailed Wind-Up about my concerns about the Chicago 12/29 show and they sent me this a short while ago.

Thank you for writing. Your message has been forwarded to Creed's management, who hope to issue a statement shortly.

Sincerely,

Wind-up Entertainment

[hotforscott]

Yeah, thanks for the info. Dogstar. I appreciate it and cannot wait to hear what it is. I would like to know their views on it.

[hayley]

Kool, Dogstar, good on you for writing.

[Dogstar]

You're welcome, guys. I just hope they do it soon. Seems everybody wants an apology/explanation, which would go a long way toward assuaging people's feelings, I think.

[velocityidp]

I hope it's directly from the keyboard of Scott... and not Windup

[Dogstar]

I do, too. I think that would be best.

[Bridge of Clay]

I don´t care for a statement... it happened... we know it... It won´t change the respect I have for Creed...

and if Stapp is really working on this... wow, that´s gotta be hard... anyway, I just ask for his recovery after this terrible year. I hope things work well for Jagger too... Hillary sucks...

a special message from me to Hillary: :finger:

btw, Stapp didn´t buy a house across his house to Hillary?

[hayley]

Originally posted by Dogstar
I do, too. I think that would be best.

that would be awesome! wow you would feel special

[Dogstar]

They probably will post something on the Wind-Up or Creed.com web site, A2S, not just to me (hahaha, I wish ;)). I suggested in my e-mail to them that some sort of public apology from Scott or a statement of some kind would do a lot to heal those who were so angry and disappointed with how he was at the show.

[hayley]

oh ok, lol then we would all feel special!! :D

[Dogstar]

Absolutely!:P

[crest tattoo]

I received it too. I was surprised. I can't imagine what it will be. An apology I hope, especially for Hockeymom's son. I don't think they will be dishonest.

[velocityidp]

A public, spoken apology is what is needed. The band/fan bond is a relationship that is vital to the band. If Scott places that much value in his fans, he'd understand this.

[Dogstar]

That would be ideal, but my guess is it will be something written, possibly posted on their Web site or something. I think something would be better than nothing. There are plenty of concerts I've been to where the performers sucked because they were drunk or high and nary an apology was uttered. You bring up a good point, though, velocityidp, in that Creed's bond with the fans is stronger than what most bands have had with their fans.

[crest tattoo]

I hate to say it, but it really is Scott that needs to take care of this. Mark and the others were awesome and did a great job covering. I remember watching Mark as Scott was lying on his back. He wasn't looking at him at all, he was just playing his a@@ off!

[Dogstar]

I heartily agree, it should come from Scott. From what everyone says, the rest of the guys salvaged the show.

[velocityidp]

Here's my reply to the person at Windup that emailed me. Some of you might think I'm too harsh, but I think I'm justified in what i say. Nothing I suggest is unreasonable at all, in my view, given the events in Chicago.

Two suggestions:

1) A personal apology from Scott is needed (not just from Windup)
2) A public AND written apology is needed

The fan/band relationship is vital to Creed, and Scott needs to show proper respect to fans due to his very serious lapse in judgment. This can only be accomplished by talking directly to the fans, through spoken word. This is the *minimum* that must be done to rectify the massive amount of disrespect shown to loyal Creed fans in Chicago... I've not even mentioned the financial/ethical aspects of this ordeal.

Thanks very much. Despite all this, I wish Scott well -- but he needs to take full responsibility.

Nicholas F. Singh

[JenRN]

Originally posted by Dogstar
That would be ideal, but my guess is it will be something written, possibly posted on their Web site or something. I think something would be better than nothing. There are plenty of concerts I've been to where the performers sucked because they were drunk or high and nary an apology was uttered. You bring up a good point, though, velocityidp, in that Creed's bond with the fans is stronger than what most bands have had with their fans.
I agree with you, they do have a bond stronger than any band I have ever seen. I do believe it will be a statement on their web-site or something in the Chicago paper of something! Not to sure, I guess we will have to wait and see.

[rodirocker]

Originally posted by crest tattoo
I hate to say it, but it really is Scott that needs to take care of this.  Mark and the others were awesome and did a great job covering. I remember watching Mark as Scott was lying on his back.  He wasn't looking at him at all, he was just playing his a@@ off!

Actually he did look at him once when a buddy of mine was screaming at Mark to get him up... then mark glanced over at scott on the ground and the expression on his face turned to humiliation. Mark stopped smiling after that. I know, my buddy is sort of dumb for doing that, but I couldn't stop him.

[ronda]

All of the complaints were answered in the same generic tone... Same message to all responses......
I saved my stub , just in case they have a new show and discount to the CHicago concert goers.... But I am not holding my breath here.
The band did a great job, an apology should come from the managment that let Scott go on stage like that. If I were Scott I would be angry with them as well as myself.. They let him go on stage , no one stopped him from making his image tarnished in thousands of fans minds. Scott too could say a few words to us, I am sure he is trying hard to keep his image in good standings with the fans. After all not everyone of his fans went to the show. It will take time to get a good statment together. I am not sure how you can explain his behavior, but an attempt would be nice.
A statement would be nice , for hundreds of $'s spend, we do at least deserve an explaination.
But cut Scott some slack, he is only a human being.
Still a Creed fan here, but today is the first time I have been able to listen to the CD without being saddened.
In time the anger will wear off the pissed off people . The band will hopefully be better than ever next CD and next tour.
;)

[TeriB19]

Thanks Ronda! I agree that there are more people to blame besides Scott. While I don't think he's blameless, it could NOT have been a secret that he was wasted before the show. It should've been stopped before the fiasco even began. Management is NOT completely blameless here. But I have to say, I'm very glad you are able to listen to them again without anger or sadness. Time heals all wounds.

[whocares]

the statements out. it was released earlier .. hope everyone takes it well

[TeriB19]

This was posted on the Pit today. Whoever posted it says it came from JHMP, so I emailed them to check on the validity of it all. I am not saying it's real, I'm just posting what's posted there. Take it for what it's worth until we get the truth.

<i>Dear Creed Fan,
The band has heard that you are unhappy with the quality of the recent Creed show in Chicago. We apologize if you don't feel that the show was up to the very high standards set by our previous shows in Chicago. We also understand and appreciate the fact that there has been much concern about
Scott's health and we want to assure everyone that he is doing very well and is taking a much needed break at home in Orlando after a very long and rigorous touring year. The band has plans to start writing material for their next record later this year and plan to return to Chicago next year to play a show that
will hopefully be better than any of the numerous shows we've played there. For now we hope that you can take some solace in the fact that you definitely experienced the most unique of all Creed shows and may have become part of the unusual world of rock and roll history! Again, we apologize if you didn't enjoy the show but remember, "It's only rock and roll but we like it!"

Have a great year!
Creed


</i>

[charlie]

It's real...I got the letter a little while ago.

"We apologize if [YOU] don't feel that the show was up to the very high standards"

"we apologize if [YOU] didn't enjoy the show"

Yeah right...the show was fine, it was ME that was unhappy.

What a sham!!! This response adds salt to the wound...

What Jerks...
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[CreedCrazed]

I agree...what a joke...I received that same e-mail a few hours ago. I would've felt better if they hadn't said anything at all...that letter was a slap in the face to Chicago fans. They won't be seeing me at any of their concerts next year. You're damn right I'M BITTER AS HELL.

[rodirocker]

I agree... i don't like that response at all. They didn't even admit that Stapp was completely messed up, all they say is the show was "unique" and that we will be a part of rock n roll history. So what? I want stapp to apologize for what HE did. "It's only rock n roll but we like it"??? I didn't like that show... hmm...

They are apologizing if we didn't enjoy the show, not because stapp messed up. They didn't even admit anything was wrong.

[velocityidp]

OK, I have a hard time believing this was the actual "statement." I never got any such email. But if it is true... what a laugh! What kind of a moron do they take me for?

And "It's only rock and roll but we like it?" ......? What in the heck is that??

Someone forward this supposed email statement to velocity@charter.net please.

[crest tattoo]

I haven't received this e-mail yet either, but I received the one the other day. If this is what they are putting out for an explanation, I agree w/ Creedcrazed, I wish they'd not said anything at all. I was feeling better about the Chicago concert, and now I'm sick again. Makes me very mad!!

[velocityidp]

Uhm, question: what is "JHMP"?

[TeriB19]

Jeff Hanson Management Promotions

[velocityidp]

Ehhh... someone tell me this isn't the actual statement...

[charlie]

Here is the email I received with the headers.

I had sent a complaint to info@info@jhmp.net


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Dear Creed Fan,

The band has heard that you are unhappy with the quality of the
recent Creed show in Chicago.
We apologize if you don't feel that the show was up to the very high
standards set by our previous shows
in Chicago. We also understand and appreciate the fact that there has
been much concern about
Scott's health and we want to assure everyone that he is doing very
well and is taking a much needed
break at home in Orlando after a very long and rigorous touring year.
The band has plans to start writing
material for their next record later this year and plan to return to
Chicago next year to play a show that
will hopefully be better than any of the numerous shows we've played
there. For now we hope that you
can take some solace in the fact that you definitely experienced the
most unique of all Creed shows and
may have become part of the unusual world of rock and roll history!
Again, we apologize if you didn't enjoy
the show but remember, "It's only rock and roll but we like it!"

Have a great year!
Creed
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[franrn]

I'm shocked that Scott didn't own up to his actions that night. Couldn't sing in Vegas and did a fan appreciation show. That's pretty crappy and to pass it off as a "unique" performance,I would be none to happy :( . I'm glad that the two shows I went to were awesome. SORRY about Chicago :(

ROCK ON :)

[JenRN]

Don't be so hard on my man FRAN!!!:mad: I am sure this is not the end of it, he will come back with something later. The man needs some breathing room, it has only been a week! Think about a huge mistake we all have done before, I know for me time heals all wounds and gives you time to reflect on things. He is probably embaressed over the fact that he was "less than perfect"! Being a perfectionist myself it is hard to fail at something, and he is known well to be an EXTREME profectionist, so we all should give him time, before we judge! And really who are we to judge anyways?:dunno:

[franrn]

Only time will tell if he really knows how much pain and disappiontment he inflicted on his FANS :( I didn't mean to come off as being hard on the man. I'm still a fan and always will be thanks to JenRN :)

ROCK ON :)

[JenRN]

Originally posted by franrn
Only time will tell if he really knows how much pain and disappiontment he inflicted on his FANS :( &nbsp;I didn't mean to come off as being hard on the man. I'm still a fan and always will be thanks to JenRN :) &nbsp;

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ROCK ON :)

I "showed you the light" didn't I FRAN!;)

[franrn]

ABSOLUTELY JenRN, :) I can't wait to go to concerts w/you this year. :) Every Chance we get. YEEH HAAAH !!!

[TeriB19]

Jen could use a traveling buddy to Creedfeed Fest, Fran. What do ya say??

[franrn]

I would love to but still undecided. but it's never to late to go :) I hope to meet all of you guys in Florida.