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robo74
12-30-2002, 02:44 AM
Concert Date Dec 29th at Allstate Arena in Rosemont, IL


I have been a loyal Creed fan for many years, Bought every album, enjoyed every song.
I had the pleasure of seeing them in Chicago in fall of 99. This year, I have been on a Creed concert streak. Tinley Park, IL Aug, 02, Madison WI, Nov 02..all great shows. Today, I have to regretfully say, I am hurt, disappointed and mad. I just got back from the show in Rosemont, IL. I can’t say Creed in this case because it was Scott. 5 seconds into the first song, people knew something was wrong. And yes there was, he was DRUNK of his ass. Couldn’t sing s song for the life of him, couldn’t walk much. Most of the first half of the show, he was sitting on his ass on the stage. Then he deceided that he would lay down to sing a song. Then, when he was pissed off at what he was doing, he threw the mic, his ear pieces and stormed off stage. He came back with no boots on, just Scott in his socks! Then a bit later, he left again between songs, only to come back with no shirt. He couldn’t sing, he couldn’t do what he does best with his loyal fans. People left after a few songs, people boo’d at Scott. Today, he wasted my time and money, and this will not be forgotten.
Today, I think he lost some fans! Watch the news in the near future, you will see this “show” brought to a lot of peoples attention.


This is not a hate post, but just someone who is unhappy. And I think he needs to know how is fans feel about his behavior!

Xterminator27
12-30-2002, 12:58 PM
gee that pisses me off

crest tattoo
12-30-2002, 01:10 PM
It does more than piss a person off. It really makes me disappointed. I hope they make it past this. Good luck to you all in PA.:confused:

souldancer
12-30-2002, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by robo74
I have been a loyal Creed fan for many years, Bought every album, enjoyed every song.
I had the pleasure of seeing them in Chicago in fall of 99.  This year, I have been on a Creed concert streak.  Tinley Park, IL Aug, 02, Madison WI, Nov 02..all great shows.  Today, I have to regretfully say, I am hurt, disappointed and mad. ...
Today, he wasted my time and money, and this will not be forgotten.  Today, I think he lost some fans!  Watch the news in the near future, you will see this “show” brought to a lot of peoples attention. OK...I retracted an earlier reply I made to this post, as I skimmed it too quickly. Now, I find I am disgusted/disgruntled....(trying to find the right word) by someone claiming to be a 'loyal' fan for so many years, has one bad concert and then states, "Today, he wasted my time and money, and this will not be forgotten." NOT BE FORGOTTEN? Have you forgotten all the good they have given?! If you have a friend who makes a mistake, who hurts you - is this your response? One bad experience deserves your pulling your 'loyalty' - glad my friends don't treat me that way. I understand you must be greatly disappointed, and agree that the fans should be heard, but...it's not a simple black and white world..it's very gray and complex. I believe in human frailty forgivness, as well as human perserverance and strength which Scott has lived. I am sorry for your unhappiness -

Dogstar
12-30-2002, 03:03 PM
Souldancer is right. One bad concert should not turn away true fans. This constant expectation of perfection from those in the public eye is completely unrealistic. I know that by choosing the life they did, they have a duty to give their paying customers a good show. But hey, have you ever had a less-than-perfect day at work or school? I know I have. Granted, showing up drunk to work isn't a good idea, but his *office* is a little different from the ones we frequent as workers. I, too, would be disappointed with what happened last night, but it doesn't mean I would turn my back on them. The good they have done for me and the friends I have made because of their music far outweigh any bad behavior on Scott's part. The man obviously is in a bad place emotionally and needs our support. Is that how you would treat a friend in trouble? I hope not.

creedfan
12-30-2002, 03:30 PM
Dogstar, just in case I forget to remind you...

Tomorrow night when you see these guys in Phili, give them 110% support if you can. I am sure coming off this embarassing performance in Chicago has gotten them down somewhat. And if you by any chance see them after the show, tell them that there are alot of people in chicago that still love and respect them and think the world of them, myself being one of those people...instead of letting that performance bring out negativity, i hope they look at it as a door of opportunity for them to come back and show chi-town what creed is all about

Dogstar
12-30-2002, 03:44 PM
Don't worry, Creedfan, I definitely will be behind them 110 percent. They have given me far too much for me to turn on them. It's the least I can do. I just know how unforgiving Philly can be if things don't go well. You won't hear one boo from me, that's for sure.

Xterminator27
12-30-2002, 03:55 PM
heh they better maek a fan apreaciation consort

creedfan
12-30-2002, 03:58 PM
Unfortauntly, the worst is yet to come as far a the press goes. Once this leaks out to the media, they are goin to have a field day. I can tell you right now chicago sun times or chicago tribune is going to rip creed up bad.....

Dogstar
12-30-2002, 04:00 PM
Yeah, I was checking their web sites today to see if they had anything, but so far, nothing. Someone was saying on another board that the local radio stations were already ripping them pretty bad.

crest tattoo
12-30-2002, 04:09 PM
I have to agree with all of you. As disappointed as I am, I'm loyal. They've done so much for my inner self. But I hope they get past what has happened. I hope it doesn't make PA worse for all the fans there. There is a fan and there is a FAN. And the loyal fans last night in Chicago are truly worried about Creed. It's the typical fans that were there last night that scare me. The ones who do not know what Creed is capable of and made up of. Say a prayer guys. Let Scott get through this and give the other members patience. I'm really scared for them as a band.

creedfan
12-30-2002, 04:12 PM
The way I look at it, they'll be back and they'll blow the roof off next time!

Altought I stood outside from noon till 6:15pm in 30 degree weather with no chair or no food and then saw that performance as my first creed concert, I can still say I'm still 100% loyal to those guys.

Dogstar
12-30-2002, 04:30 PM
That's the spirit, Creedfan. I'm right with ya!

creedfan2334
12-30-2002, 04:58 PM
it seems to me that all the "LOYAL" creed fans are being misunderstood just as robo74...

its true that a concert like last nights will not be forgotten. but just because someone says that doesn't mean they don't like the band anymore. when something like this happens to someone whom you least expect it would happen to, it is very shocking and hard to deal with. and just because someone has bad concert experience and they say they are disgusted with it or say it will never be forgotten should not start a questioning of their loyalty. people can have a bad experience and still be a loyal fan.

i know there are a lot of obsessed creed fans in the country, and the world as well. but its no reason to jump all over someone just because he said he didn't like his experience.

Dogstar
12-30-2002, 05:13 PM
No one's jumping on anybody, Creedfan2334. The poster in question said something about people posting *crap* about supposed true fans. We all have a right to our opinions and we're all simply stating them. That's all. We don't all have to agree.

souldancer
12-30-2002, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Dogstar
Don't worry, Creedfan, I definitely will be behind them 110 percent. ...and when Scott make that deep, eye contact with you AGAIN....just send out all my support too....;) What a great board this is with all these dedicated fans!!!

robo74
12-30-2002, 08:02 PM
my post was my 2 cents as well as opinion, I have been listening to Creed and enjoying them for years. Will this situation stop me? no, I will still buy CD's and enjoy them. Have I lost respect for the band, hell no, the others did what they could last night to make a great sounding show. Should Scott apologize for his behavior, YES, I have spent lots of money supporting the band and someone should not spend alot of money to get a bad show.
For a guy and band that has made a second appearance in a city because he felt he didnt sound that great, then he goes and does this to us in Chicago, thats just wrong.

Rob

CreedFanNoMore?
12-31-2002, 08:39 PM
One thing almost every post has in common is the fact that everyone supports them and has spent alot of time and money supporting them. In fact Scott is usually the first to admit this in concerts and in interviews. But, unfortuneatly as a fan that has supported them so much. I feel betrayed. We (fans) are who made them what they are, and to do what they did to the thousands of fans, is uterly wrong and dissapointing. They should have cancelled. Human ? Everyone is throwing around this word like maybe he hasnt been human. He chose to live in the public eye, and with that come consequences. He also chose to do what ever he did drugs or otherwise, right before a concert and disrepsect his fans, himself and his fellow bandmembers. I for one, am sorry for them and them only. Scott on the other hand, should get whatever he deserves. MAKE YOUR BED, NOW YOU LIE IN IT.

upchurchfan
12-31-2002, 10:16 PM
I would like to say an opinion.........

A fan will stick by a band through thick and thin ....no matter what......

I think some people tend to forget rock stars are human to and have bad days like the rest of us all do.......only we see their mess ups in public most of the time.

I think maybe they should redo the show an apologize .........

this was the only show out of thousands I saw bad reviews from fans on.......

I hope Scott sees what happened and that he needs help.......I would hate to see this awesome band fall........My heart goes out to him and his band.........

creedfan2334
01-02-2003, 02:06 PM
i have still seen or heard no word of an apology. yes i know scott needs to get better and forget about what happened (if he even knows), but what about the people that went to the chicago show and had to see what we saw? i realize that he did a great job in philly from what i have heard, but there are some of us who saw a dark side of creed on sunday. i think i speak for a lot of fans when i say that we still support creed 100%, but we still would to get a apology.

crest tattoo
01-02-2003, 04:51 PM
Creedfan2334, I have to say I'm with you. I don't think it will happen though. If they did, wouldn't you think they'd have all sorts of liabilities? Somewhere in their contract, it must say something about performing up to their full expectations, and the arena could take action in some way. I'm glad they did well in PA, but it is still really bothering me what I seen in Chicago. It was the fourth time I seen them. I hope it isn't the way I always remember them. What about you?

creedfan2334
01-02-2003, 04:58 PM
yeah i don't want to keep that memory for very long, especially when i have seen them twice before and they rocked the house down...

my girlfriends cousin went to the show too, and it was her first creed concert, and lets just say she isn't too happy with her first creed experience...

crest tattoo
01-02-2003, 07:23 PM
How do you feel about the concert now, four days later? It has been one of those things that weighs heavy on my heart. I feel better than I did on Monday, but it bothers me for Scott. I'm not as much disgusted as I am worried for him. I wish I could've gone to the PA concert.

robo74
01-02-2003, 07:50 PM
I still feel the same way, specially since the PA show was good. Im glad they have the creed.com site back up, I had to voice my opinion there as well. O well, the fans put the ball in Scott's court, lets see what he deceides to do with it.
Rob

Snortmyster
01-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Shit happens I've wasted lots more money on dumber stuff,
You got to see a rare concert performance. I remember in the early 90's Tom Petty's Wildflower tour He was so wasted He couldn't sing play gutiar or nothing. Scott I have to say with all that has happened to him in the last year probably need to get snot slinging drunk sometimes we all need a little alcohol therapy. If he keeps doin it than it's time to worry.

scottsgal
01-15-2003, 05:17 PM
I am a huge fan of Creed, people joke I am a little obsessed. I admit, I am but not in a psycho stalker way. Their music inspires me, and has got me through many hard times. And im not talking about breakups, but real bad times. I have gone to 3 of their concerts and they have all been way beyond any experience and expecation! I brag and tell people its worth whatever you spend on the ticket. This past concert I had to miss because I had plans with my 4 year old daughter to go see a musial. I was sad that I missed it. Then my best friend who had great seats and paid alot of money for it told me about the experience. I AM NOT one to judge, especially since I was not there. I thought to myself wow i am glad i didnt go. I still LOVE Creed, and i never thought id ever say that. Im glad they apologized. Scott is Human. But he shoudnt blame it on cough medicine, and if he was truly sick no matter what it cost he should have cancelled and rescheduled. His fans stand behing him more then alot of other bands. Alot of people pay hundreds to see them Live.
From what I hear he was drunk. It happens. Believe me , I have gotten drunk and made an a** out of myslef, especilaly when I was dealing w/death of young cousins. Fine apolgize but dont say it was a miracle to witness.
In my eyes it wasnt a miracle, it mightve been scott being human...... and just making a bad choice.
I still love them, i think hes amazing and I hope he just learned his lesson and next time he comes to chicago just put on a usual Creed performance..... an AWESOME ONE!


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Tracy

scottsgal
01-16-2003, 09:53 PM
Creed is so unbelievably talented and thay do have many loyal fans, that even though we are disappointed or mad or upset with them, if you like them like i do, I for one am very confident that they will come back to chicago standing tall and proud, and put on the BEST show we will ever see. So everyone has grunted about him being drunk, but hey havent we all been? YES its a little differant because he shouldnt have before his show, but hey it happens. We dont know whats going on with him.
I lost 2 cousins under 21 in 2 months... I couldnt tell you the things i did which is not me. If my friends judged me or walked away cuz i mightve got too drunk once r twice then id be alone right now. Things happen.... Yes he owes his fans an apolgy but who are we to judge? ya know?
I just hope he doesnt go down the path like so many rock stars or famous people do!! HE IS TOO GOOD! so heres to next show......... !

TeriB19
01-16-2003, 10:01 PM
Cheers and Amen Tracy!! And welcome to the bb!!

scottsgal
01-16-2003, 11:27 PM
what great memories they are!!
I have decided im destined to meet him one day, even if its just to shake his hand!!!
His words analize my life alot of the times!