Good Movie = The Salton Sea

[Steve]

If you've followed some of the interviews AB has done, you'll note that Mark and/or Myles has mentioned in the past that the song "Burn It Down" was inspired by the movie The Salton Sea, starring Val Kilmer. I just happened to catch this movie on HBO tonight. Wow, what a movie. If you get a chance, watch it on HBO this month, or go to your local video store and rent it. It's from 2002 so it should be in the cheap section under drama or thriller. Once you finish watching it, turn on the song "Burn It Down" :) Awsome song, awsome movie.

[evyllsummer]

hmmm...didn't know about that, Steve...cool...

[Dogstar]

Very cool, Steve. Thanks.

[SummerGirl]

hmmm...didn't know about that, Steve...cool...yeah that ^...thanks for the info. Steve. :)

[The Lithium]

Yeah, that movie imspired Mark to write BID.

[IamFilthy]

oh yippee,...he got INSPIRATION from a Val KIlmer movie,...somebody should let him know that LIFE is going on all around him.

[Vliegs]

As opposed to Stapp getting inspiration frooooommm.....what? Prednisone? Jim Beam? Cannabis? :dunno:

[evyllsummer]

As opposed to Stapp getting inspiration frooooommm.....what? Prednisone? Jim Beam? Cannabis? :dunno:

or the uncredited "song doctors" that have assisted him...in any case, Stapp has lots of life FAILURES from which he can draw inspiration (as you can clearly see on his latest opus), so he's clearly leaps and bounds ahead of Mark in THAT category...can't wait to hear his next song of self-imposed persecution about his altercation with 311 or the Casino incident...

[Vliegs]

Well to be fair, the Casino incident probably wouldn't spawn the typical "woe is my life" stanzas from Scott. That one would probably have a bit more upbeat version of something like "i tried my best to get laid, yet in the end I was played"

But I'm digressing....

I've never heard of that movie Steve. Sound like it might be interesting (from what you described about it on another bb), maybe along the lines of Trainspotting a little bit. Time to go update my Netflix queue.

[SummerGirl]

LOL...um my dearest friends...something is rotten in the state of Denmark...IAMFILTHY, I believe is leading a double life...he has a total of 57 posts as of the timing of my post...and the first three said...

(1) Hey guys,...I'm new here. Just thought I'd say how much I love AB and "In Loving Memory".....it rocks!!!
(2) (Review of TGD) I would give it a four out of ten. It in no way compares to ODR. Myles Kennedy has such phenominal vocal range....it's awesome live!!!!!!
(3) How can I hear "Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad?".....Love AB and would love to hear something new? For that matter,..is there any other new songs out by AB that weren't on ODR?

Not only has his opinion drastically changed, but the syntax as well. Hmm...something is afoot.

[evyllsummer]

LOL...um my dearest friends...something is rotten in the state of Denmark...IAMFILTHY, I believe is leading a double life...he has a total of 57 posts as of the timing of my post...and the first three said...

(1) Hey guys,...I'm new here. Just thought I'd say how much I love AB and "In Loving Memory".....it rocks!!!
(2) (Review of TGD) I would give it a four out of ten. It in no way compares to ODR. Myles Kennedy has such phenominal vocal range....it's awesome live!!!!!!
(3) How can I hear "Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad?".....Love AB and would love to hear something new? For that matter,..is there any other new songs out by AB that weren't on ODR?

Not only has his opinion drastically changed, but the syntax as well. Hmm...something is afoot.

that would be pretty clever, actually...I wish that I had thought of something like that...

[evyllsummer]

Well to be fair, the Casino incident probably wouldn't spawn the typical "woe is my life" stanzas from Scott. That one would probably have a bit more upbeat version of something like "i tried my best to get laid, yet in the end I was played"


eh, sounds more like an R Kelly song...maybe Stapp could do vocals on it, too...

[SummerGirl]

That reminds me of the Lita Ford song, "went to a party last Sat. night, didn't get laid but I got in a fight...*Stapp's yarwling* uh-rrrrrrrrrr-hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it ain't no big thing" *winks* at ES...

[evyllsummer]

That reminds me of the Lita Ford song, "went to a party last Sat. night, didn't get laid but I got in a fight...*Stapp's yarwling* uh-rrrrrrrrrr-hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it ain't no big thing" *winks* at ES...

yeah, he really should cover that song...

[Steve]

I've never heard of that movie Steve. Sound like it might be interesting (from what you described about it on another bb), maybe along the lines of Trainspotting a little bit. Time to go update my Netflix queue.

Actually it isn't really like Trainspotting, except for the fact that it's about tweekers. The basic premiss of the movie is a guy's wife is killed by some drug dealers and he evolves into the tweeker lifestyle to try to seek revenge for his wife's murder. Can't say anymore without giving away parts of the story. It's really good though. :) The movie ends with Tantric's song "Mourning" which really fits the ending. "Burn It Down" fits in great in the beginning and right before the end of the movie. :D

[Vliegs]

NICE! Mourning is one of my fave Tantric songs.

[IamFilthy]

LOL...um my dearest friends...something is rotten in the state of Denmark...IAMFILTHY, I believe is leading a double life...he has a total of 57 posts as of the timing of my post...and the first three said...

(1) Hey guys,...I'm new here. Just thought I'd say how much I love AB and "In Loving Memory".....it rocks!!!
(2) (Review of TGD) I would give it a four out of ten. It in no way compares to ODR. Myles Kennedy has such phenominal vocal range....it's awesome live!!!!!!
(3) How can I hear "Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad?".....Love AB and would love to hear something new? For that matter,..is there any other new songs out by AB that weren't on ODR?

Not only has his opinion drastically changed, but the syntax as well. Hmm...something is afoot.

I just start off with sarcasm to get in the mix :naughty: ......then I tell it like it is. Although I must admit,...I actually bought ODR on its first release date :doh: ,...gave it one spin :wtf: ,.... regurgitated :vomit: ,..... laughed my ass off :D ,.... and let it settle in the very bottom of my CD collection. :dancing:

[evyllsummer]

I just start off with sarcasm to get in the mix ......then I tell it like it is. Although I must admit,...I actually bought ODR on its first release date ,...gave it one spin ,.... regurgitated ,..... laughed my ass off ,.... and let it settle in the very bottom of my CD collection.

ah, and here I thought that it simply meant that your opinion has no tangible value...

[Dogstar]

oh yippee,...he got INSPIRATION from a Val KIlmer movie,...somebody should let him know that LIFE is going on all around him.
Art in many forms can inspire.

[evyllsummer]

yeah, and Stapp is so self-absorbed that he COULDN'T write about anything BUT himself, because, in his world, nothing else exists...

[IamFilthy]

yeah, and Stapp is so self-absorbed that he COULDN'T write about anything BUT himself, because, in his world, nothing else exists...

How about God?......does that count?

[evyllsummer]

How about God?......does that count?

well, he seems to do a really good Jesus impersonation, does THAT count?

[Vliegs]

well, he seems to do a really good Jesus impersonation, does THAT count?

ROFLMAO!!! :roll: :rofl: :laugh:

[IamFilthy]

well, he seems to do a really good Jesus impersonation, does THAT count?

no, not really,.....we were actually talking about "writing inspirations",....not "impersonations",...so,...let's see,....write about your relationship with God,...or,...a Val Kilmer movie? Ah man,..this is a close one!

[Vliegs]

Well the image he's been PORTRAYING lately as far as his relationship with God has seemed to be more along the lines of hypocrisy.

[IamFilthy]

Well the image he's been PORTRAYING lately as far as his relationship with God has seemed to be more along the lines of hypocrisy.

Last I looked, Scott was a HUMAN,...therefore being falliable and "born in sin" as we all are,.....even the Pope screws up from day to day. Because Stapp speaks so Highly of his relationship w/ God, then he is not granted any slack, correct?

[Vliegs]

The good ole "he's only a human and has faults just like everybody else" argument. I don't deny that, hell I've got a ton of problems too that I freely admit to.

No, the fact that Scott speaks highly of his relationship with God is just fine with me. The fact that he expounds constantly in interviews on how he LIVES such a good Christian life, then goes on with his usual (and current) stunts/actions which immediately gainsay the lifestyle he'd just been preaching about is the problem.

[IamFilthy]

The good ole "he's only a human and has faults just like everybody else" argument. I don't deny that, hell I've got a ton of problems too that I freely admit to.

No, the fact that Scott speaks highly of his relationship with God is just fine with me. The fact that he expounds constantly in interviews on how he LIVES such a good Christian life, then goes on with his usual (and current) stunts/actions which immediately gainsay the lifestyle he'd just been preaching about is the problem.

provide a quote where he says that he "lives a good christian life",....its people like you that put him on that level of expectation whenever he mentions the word "God".

[evyllsummer]

no, not really,.....we were actually talking about "writing inspirations",....not "impersonations",...so,...let's see,....write about your relationship with God,...or,...a Val Kilmer movie? Ah man,..this is a close one!

oh, I'm sorry...was he thinking about his relationship with God when he got into that fight with 311? Was he thinking about his relationship with God (or his fiancee, for that matter) when he was drunk and hitting on Howard Stern's girlfriend on the Casino Cinema? Was he thinking about how God is going to help his SON deal with the mistakes of his FATHER?

[Vliegs]

Well here's the first thing that came up when I googled stapp interviews.

Christian Music News Interview

"That's what's different this time around, I've stepped back into the arena of faith, of faith in Christ,"

"I'm not just looking at God as a way out of a jam; I've embraced being a Christian as what shapes my values, my worldview, my morals. My commitment to Christ is what establishes my priorities, how I will raise my son, my whole person."

I've yet to dig through the rest of his interviews.

[evyllsummer]

yeah, and what I REALLY love is that his songs are about repentance and redemption, yet never leads a lifestyle that will ever ELEVATE him out of NEEDING it...with his hypocritical lifestyle, he has GUARANTEED that he will ALWAYS have subject fodder for his songs...they will always be a bit REPETITIVE, as he never seems to be learning the lessons he SEEMS to be seeking (much like his fanbase), but he will never be wanting in the gullible folks that buy what he's selling, and, make no mistake, SELLING is all that he's doing...selling his lies and selling his faux introspective lyrics to the gullible masses (well, since his album fell OUT of the top 50, maybe the masses aren't so gullible anymore, LOL)...but I WILL tell you one way that God has TRULY blessed him: Stapp is "blessed" (or "cursed", depending on your naivite and/or perspective) with fans that will always believe his lies, will never feel that their intelligence is being insulted BY his lies, and will always buy his albums...and, as long as we're talking about God, if Stapp feels that he doesn't need to "justify" his actions, he doesn't have to justify it to me, you, his fans, his unfortunate son, or anyone else...but he WILL be held ACCOUNTABLE (you may not be familiar with the difference, but Merriam Webster Online will be able to help you) to God...

[evyllsummer]

NOW what?

[Dogstar]

I don't so much have a problem with his going back to the well for song fodder, but what does bother me is that unlike other artists who have chronicled their struggles with their spiritual lives or with, say, addiction, on more than a few albums, they come at with a different perspective, a more mature look at their situation, a little more reflection and self-analysis. The lyrics on TGD sound like a fifth-grader's mentality and it seems he has regressed rather than progressed.

[evyllsummer]

Amen...preaching to the choir...

[Vliegs]

Amen...preaching to the choir...

Well hell....I was in all state choir for 4 years back in high school, I'll raise the rafters in this one as well. :D

[IamFilthy]

I don't so much have a problem with his going back to the well for song fodder, but what does bother me is that unlike other artists who have chronicled their struggles with their spiritual lives or with, say, addiction, on more than a few albums, they come at with a different perspective, a more mature look at their situation, a little more reflection and self-analysis. The lyrics on TGD sound like a fifth-grader's mentality and it seems he has regressed rather than progressed.

That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! No,...I take that back,....Tremo's lyrics on ODR is the biggest load of crap. You obviously are too dillusional to even begin to argue with!

[IamFilthy]

I don't so much have a problem with his going back to the well for song fodder, but what does bother me is that unlike other artists who have chronicled their struggles with their spiritual lives or with, say, addiction, on more than a few albums, they come at with a different perspective, a more mature look at their situation, a little more reflection and self-analysis. The lyrics on TGD sound like a fifth-grader's mentality and it seems he has regressed rather than progressed.

That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! No,...I take that back,....Tremo's lyrics on ODR is the biggest load of crap. You obviously are too dillusional to even begin to argue with!

[Dogstar]

:D That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! No,...I take that back,....Tremo's lyrics on ODR is the biggest load of crap. You obviously are too dillusional to even begin to argue with!

:D That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! No,...I take that back,....Stapp's lyrics on TGD is the biggest load of crap. You obviously are too dillusional to even begin to argue with!

*fixed*

[IamFilthy]

aren't you witty!

[Dogstar]

There are fleas who are more witty than you. You never offer one ounce of anything to back up your opinion. I've warned you in another thread. If you continue acting like nothing but a troll or a basher, you're gone. Got it, Mr. Witty Reparte?

[IamFilthy]

There are fleas who are more witty than you. You never offer one ounce of anything to back up your opinion. I've warned you in another thread. If you continue acting like nothing but a troll or a basher, you're gone. Got it, Mr. Witty Reparte?

MY opinion is based on my MUSICAL PREFERENCE.

[Dogstar]

It's the manner in which you express your opinion that is not acceptable

[IamFilthy]

It's the manner in which you express your opinion that is not acceptable

as I've noticed,...its no different than everyone else around here. Do you see how many people bash Stapp w/ NO REASONABLE EXPRESSION? Ya know,...whatever,...it doesn't matter

[IamFilthy]

http://www.emosexuals.com/images/stappopen.jpg - by alterbridge9

Where were you on that one?

[Dogstar]

I don't see every post in every thread. :rolleyes:

[IamFilthy]

I don't see every post in every thread. :rolleyes:

You mean to tell me that a "moderator" missed an ENTIRE THREAD dedicated to that one pic?.......OK,whatever

[Dogstar]

You mean to tell me that a "moderator" missed an ENTIRE THREAD dedicated to that one pic?.......OK,whatever
There are other mods here, as well. And, in case you haven't noticed, we do have lives outside the message board. It isn't a full-time job for anyone.

[IamFilthy]

ALTER BRIDGE = 110% MUSIC

Scott Stapp = 90% proof - emissarygtrist

Uh oh,....here's another one....

TGD= :vomit:

just my opinion - Dogstar

ahhh,....i guess you need no intelligent reason for this opinion

Good night.

[evyllsummer]

as I've noticed,...its no different than everyone else around here. Do you see how many people bash Stapp w/ NO REASONABLE EXPRESSION? Ya know,...whatever,...it doesn't matter

well, if you don't like AB's music, why are you even over here in the AB section? I mean, if you're LOOKING for argument, you can see that you have been served...your thread was CLEARLY started to start trouble, as your opinion of Myles has been heard and, subsequently, ignored, so saying it LOUDER is going to accomplish nothing...if you like Stapp's music better than AB's, that's fine, but if you are going to come over here just to talk shit about Myles or AB, then, everytime you do, be prepared for me to spend a lot of time, effort, and research to point out to you that Stapp is a pompous narcissistic sociopathic pathological/compulsive liar with sloppy impulse control...was that expression reasonable enough?

[IamFilthy]

well, if you don't like AB's music, why are you even over here in the AB section? I mean, if you're LOOKING for argument, you can see that you have been served...your thread was CLEARLY started to start trouble, as your opinion of Myles has been heard and, subsequently, ignored, so saying it LOUDER is going to accomplish nothing...if you like Stapp's music better than AB's, that's fine, but if you are going to come over here just to talk shit about Myles or AB, then, everytime you do, be prepared for me to spend a lot of time, effort, and research to point out to you that Stapp is a pompous narcissistic sociopathic pathological/compulsive liar with sloppy impulse control...was that expression reasonable enough?

mind your business please,...thanks

[Trimontana]

mind your business please,...thanks

no, since you are postings at the AB section we mind about your business...otherwise back off.

[Trimontana]

just my opinion- Dogstar


Dogstar is a moderator here man...a bit more of respect...otherwise go to bash to another board.

[RoffeDH]

The way I see it IAMFILTHY... You are minding his business and there for he must mind you business sence your business is his busniess... Am I clear enough...?

And to back every "stapp basher" up, give me one reson for giving anyone a warning for bashing Stapp? They've given their resons for thinking that and can back it up, you on the other hand haven't given any reason for bashing AB here! You're only out to get an argument... you're filthy in other words ;) (A joke, nothing personal!)

[evyllsummer]

mind your business please,...thanks

Oh, has Mr. Vocabulary abandoned you? I'm sorry, I guess he was never really there, huh? I mean, it's not like Dogstar needs any help evincing you as the inarticulate tantrum-throwing child which you seem DETERMINED to demonstrate, but, since you felt that you needed to impose yourself into this thread so stridently, I feel the need to bring up a few things which you lacked in response...keep in mind, though, that I'm not really expecting you, at this point, to be able to express yourself in any manner past a basic middle school level, but I'll give you the opportunity to prove me wrong...

oh, I'm sorry...was he thinking about his relationship with God when he got into that fight with 311? Was he thinking about his relationship with God (or his fiancee, for that matter) when he was drunk and hitting on Howard Stern's girlfriend on the Casino Cinema? Was he thinking about how God is going to help his SON deal with the mistakes of his FATHER?

did you have a response to that? An INTELLIGENT one, that is...

yeah, and what I REALLY love is that his songs are about repentance and redemption, yet never leads a lifestyle that will ever ELEVATE him out of NEEDING it...with his hypocritical lifestyle, he has GUARANTEED that he will ALWAYS have subject fodder for his songs...they will always be a bit REPETITIVE, as he never seems to be learning the lessons he SEEMS to be seeking (much like his fanbase), but he will never be wanting in the gullible folks that buy what he's selling, and, make no mistake, SELLING is all that he's doing...selling his lies and selling his faux introspective lyrics to the gullible masses (well, since his album fell OUT of the top 50, maybe the masses aren't so gullible anymore, LOL)...but I WILL tell you one way that God has TRULY blessed him: Stapp is "blessed" (or "cursed", depending on your naivite and/or perspective) with fans that will always believe his lies, will never feel that their intelligence is being insulted BY his lies, and will always buy his albums...and, as long as we're talking about God, if Stapp feels that he doesn't need to "justify" his actions, he doesn't have to justify it to me, you, his fans, his unfortunate son, or anyone else...but he WILL be held ACCOUNTABLE (you may not be familiar with the difference, but Merriam Webster Online will be able to help you) to God...

did you have a response to that? Again, an INTELLIGENT one, if possible...

[Steve]

IamFilthy, if you don't like a post or think one is offensive, use the REPORT POST function and let the mods know of it. Until you do that, don't complain about some posts being deleted and others not.

And this is your last warning. Take your flame, troll bait to anther message board. Next disrespectful post and you're gone.

[The Lithium]

oh yippee,...he got INSPIRATION from a Val KIlmer movie,...somebody should let him know that LIFE is going on all around him.
Isn't it okay to be inspired by anything? I mean, does it really matter what imspired you? Obviously that movie really spoke to Mark, and he wrote his feelings down, and turned it into a song. He does that all the time! He doesn't always write material for his upcomming albums! He has said several times in several interviews that he is writing all the time, and for the most of the time, just for himself.

I just start off with sarcasm to get in the mix :naughty: ......then I tell it like it is. Although I must admit,...I actually bought ODR on its first release date :doh: ,...gave it one spin :wtf: ,.... regurgitated :vomit: ,..... laughed my ass off :D ,.... and let it settle in the very bottom of my CD collection. :dancing:
Sarcasm? Yeah right...

as I've noticed,...its no different than everyone else around here. Do you see how many people bash Stapp w/ NO REASONABLE EXPRESSION? Ya know,...whatever,...it doesn't matter
No reasonable expression? How 'bout the lies, the Chicago show, the 311 fight, the drunk apperance on SpikeTV. Heeeelllooo?

http://www.emosexuals.com/images/stappopen.jpg - by alterbridge9

Where were you on that one?
I doubt alterbridge9 actually did that. I think he/she just found it somewhere, but what do I know? And yes, that may count as bashing, but for no reasonble expression? Come on, this was posted shortly after the Spike TV show was aired. I mean, there's you're reason! :D


TGD= :vomit:

just my opinion - Dogstar
Yeah see, she actually said: "Just my opinion", you don't.