It's funny

[Stappishot]

I remember listening to a interview that Scott Stapp gave while promoting his solo career, and one of the DJ'S called his fans groupies, and now Scott said don't call my fans groupies when he was on that interview. That was his own words! Now on Casino Cinema, the guy asked him if he had groupies on tour with him, and does anyone pick them out for him, he said yea about 5 groupies or somthing like that. He agreed to calling his fans groupies.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything, the truth comes out when ur drunk! Always!

Wow that sh*t was funny! I wonder if u can download that show somewhere!

She also asked him if he had a girlfriend, he didn't sound to confident answering that question, kind of like yea, whatever yea I have a girlfriend kind of answer.

Now, that's the real Scott Stapp!

[Mr.CreedFreakTN]

I was pretty ashamed by what I saw. I hope that he gets his life together. I hope that he doesn't ignore this.

[Stappishot]

I went to other sites to see what people are saying about this whole thing about Stapp, and there making up every excuss in the book for this man! He's not a baby, he knows what the hell he's doing! He got drunk because he choose to do so. No one put a gun to his head and said drink, now! If he chooses to go that route then, hey. If he wants to be remembered as the drunk, then so be it. But remember people Stapp is who he is, and I hope he gets help b4 it gets worse.

[Chase]

Hey now... some of the greatest rock stars in the history of the world were drug addicts and drunks at one time or another. All that matters is that Scott makes some good music.

[ctfan]

Stapp is a man, that's what I see him as just like any other, and like I said before, he just happens to be a musician. If that makes my opinion an excuse....so be it.

He did nothing wrong but have a good time, just like anyone else.

[Steve]

Yea a couple of excuses I've read include:

- He was set up by Spike TV
- Someone slipped something in his drink earlier
- He did was Spike TV wanted because their target audience is men

I mean come on... if you really believe any of those you seriously have a problem. The man flat out got drunk and went on the show to film the segments. It's as simple as that.

[Stappishot]

Yea a couple of excuses I've read include:

- He was set up by Spike TV
- Someone slipped something in his drink earlier
- He did was Spike TV wanted because their target audience is men

I mean come on... if you really believe any of those you seriously have a problem. The man flat out got drunk and went on the show to film the segments. It's as simple as that.


I agree 100%!

It's crazy how some fans of Stapp treat him as every time he does wrong someone else did it to him, but not himself. Dumb.

[Dogstar]

Yea a couple of excuses I've read include:

- He was set up by Spike TV
- Someone slipped something in his drink earlier
- He did was Spike TV wanted because their target audience is men

I mean come on... if you really believe any of those you seriously have a problem. The man flat out got drunk and went on the show to film the segments. It's as simple as that.
Word.

[Chase]

I agree 100%!

It's crazy how some fans of Stapp treat him as every time he does wrong someone else did it to him, but not himself. Dumb.

Spike TV decided to continue with the filming... which makes me believe that they really didn't have a problem with the fact that he was drunk. It was funny as hell though... you have to admit.

[TeriB19]

You have to wonder what the hell he was thinking getting drunk before he knew he'd be taping a show. What kind of judgement did he show there? Especially given the fact that he's got a new cd to promote. Getting shitfaced, then going on a television show and acting like an ass is probably NOT number one on Wind Up's list of things they want Stapp to do to promote the cd.

[RoffeDH]

Have anyone got the shit on their computer? I would love to see it!

[Robin101]

Stapp is a man, that's what I see him as just like any other, and like I said before, he just happens to be a musician. If that makes my opinion an excuse....so be it.

He did nothing wrong but have a good time, just like anyone else.


I Agree!! :thumbsup:

[Steve]

Stapp is a man, that's what I see him as just like any other, and like I said before, he just happens to be a musician. If that makes my opinion an excuse....so be it.

He did nothing wrong but have a good time, just like anyone else.

But he did do something wrong - he was drunk and making an ass out of himself while he was supposed to be promoting his album. Lets say Scott worked for some major company and was supposed to be at a convention to show his company's new product. If he showed up drunk he'd be immediately fired. Stapp is making these public appearances to promote himself and his company. Being a solo musician, the image he gives off is what makes his "product" - he just ruined that.

[Chase]

But he did do something wrong - he was drunk and making an ass out of himself while he was supposed to be promoting his album. Lets say Scott worked for some major company and was supposed to be at a convention to show his company's new product. If he showed up drunk he'd be immediately fired. Stapp is making these public appearances to promote himself and his company. Being a solo musician, the image he gives off is what makes his "product" - he just ruined that.

How do you promote your album while playing poker in brief 1 or 2 minute between segments while one of the hosts is asking questions that have nothing to do with The Great Divide? Rock isn't a gentleman's game.

[Robin101]

How do you promote your album while playing poker in brief 1 or 2 minute between segments while one of the hosts is asking questions that have nothing to do with The Great Divide?

I agree! (again)

People were not going to watch the program to judge the album.

I can see it now...

(annoyed fan) "Well, after that I'm not going to buy his album, see him live...and I'm certainly going to inform the authorities about this!! :rolleyes:

Take Care

[Steve]

How do you promote your album while playing poker in brief 1 or 2 minute between segments while one of the hosts is asking questions that have nothing to do with The Great Divide? Rock isn't a gentleman's game.

If that's the case, why do we have late night talk shows? How do you promote a movie in a brief 5 minute interview with Leno when they talk about personal life for 90% of the interview? He's making appearances to get his name out there so people become aware he has a record out. It's a promotions game. The point is to get his name out there. If he wants to make himself look like an ass, hey so be it. Doesn't bother me one bit.

If he didn't go on the show to promote his album, then he wouldn't have been scheduled to be on the show. Notice how many times Steve Schrippa (sp?) mentioned Stapp's new album, naming it by name? The whole point of having guests on is to promote whatever they're doing.

[TeriB19]

Exactly. Shrippa kept mentioning it and Stapp seemed to have very little interest in talking about it. Bizarre.

[Stappishot]

Exactly. Shrippa kept mentioning it and Stapp seemed to have very little interest in talking about it. Bizarre.


True, and he also had very little interest talking about his now, fiance. Don't get me wrong, but wouldn't u been excited to talk about both (album and fiance), drunk or not.

[RMadd]

i think the interesting thing here is that, given that the amount of media coverage bands back in the '60s & '70s received in comparison to the amount given today, you wonder how the fans really would have thought about prolly any number of musicians. it's kind of like FDR: the man had polio & was in a wheelchair, but b/c even radio hardly covered the presidential races, no one knew. i could almost guarantee that, if FDR were subjected to today's races, he would get clobbered simply because people don't really want to elect someone so sickly.

[Chase]

True, and he also had very little interest talking about his now, fiance. Don't get me wrong, but wouldn't u been excited to talk about both (album and fiance), drunk or not.

Most celebrities prefer not to talk about their significant others.

[Stappishot]

Most celebrities prefer not to talk about their significant others.


That's true 2. If he mentions her name, she'll probably get more Publicity now that everyone heard about what Scott has done lol. :D She'll be on google and everything.

[sina2b]

Most celebrities prefer not to talk about their significant others.

yea and most if not all "PEOPLE" prefer to not have a fight on the night of their engagement and will avoid one at all costs.

[Stappishot]

yea and most if not all "PEOPLE" prefer to not have a fight on the night of their engagement and will avoid one at all costs.


True. That's supposed to be one of the most exciting days of his and her life, and he goes and does that. I would of been cursing him out all the way home.

[Ana4Stapp]

]Stapp is a man, [/B] that's what I see him as just like any other, and like I said before, he just happens to be a musician. If that makes my opinion an excuse....so be it.

He did nothing wrong but have a good time, just like anyone else.

actually ...acting as a child... :eek:

[Chase]

yea and most if not all "PEOPLE" prefer to not have a fight on the night of their engagement and will avoid one at all costs.

Yeah... and most people with decency don't accuse people of certain actions without having proof.

[Ana4Stapp]

Yeah... and most people with decency don't accuse people of certain actions without having proof.

Still needing proof? No matter WHo started the fight..all that matter is Stapp was involved in it...

PS: You are so intelligent Chase that I find weird you are still defending Stapp...

[Chase]

Still needing proof? No matter WHo started the fight..all that matter is Stapp was involved in it...

PS: You are so intelligent Chase that I find weird you are still defending Stapp...

In America, you're innocent until proving guilty. The director of security in that hotel stated that 311 instigated the fight. If that's the case... Stapp defended himself. I would defend anyone who was being blamed for something by people who have no proof. That's unfair.

[Ana4Stapp]

In America, you're innocent until proving guilty. The director of security in that hotel stated that 311 instigated the fight. If that's the case... Stapp defended himself. I would defend anyone who was being blamed for something by people who have no proof. That's unfair.

Not only in america, but in any civilized country ...but you really feel like hes being innocent? why he didnt say anything? whay he didnt try to tell his side of the story? why he took so much time for doing this? Why WU didnt say anything to defend him ?

This guy has antecedents, Chase. :rolleyes:

[Chase]

Not only in america, but in any civilized country ...but you really feel like hes being innocent? why he didnt say anything? whay he didnt try to tell his side of the story? why he took so much time for doing this? Why WU didnt say anything to defend him ?

This guy has antecedents, Chase. :rolleyes:

No, actually in Britain... I believe you're guilty until proven innocent. Maybe Wind Up didn't want Stapp to get into a war of words with 311. There's unforeseen circumstances that surround a lot of incidents. Both of us don't know the circumstances that surround this one.

[Ana4Stapp]

No, actually in Britain... I believe you're guilty until proven innocent. Maybe Wind Up didn't want Stapp to get into a war of words with 311. There's unforeseen circumstances that surround a lot of incidents. Both of us don't know the circumstances that surround this one.

If you were an artist and someone said you were involved in a fight that you really werent waht would you do? would you keep quiet ? even if this silence would ruin your career?

and thanks for the law's information... ;)

[Chase]

If you were an artist and someone said you were involved in a fight that you really werent waht would you do? would you keep quiet ? even if this silence would ruin your career?

and thanks for the law's information... ;)

It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

[Ana4Stapp]

It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

Like I said in the other thread ?!(not sure cuz we're in two or three ! :D ) he has antecedents...you saw his interview at casino cinema???? It was so disappointing Chase that you have no idea... :(

[Stappishot]

It all depends on the circumstances. I don't think him being silent for a couple days just ruined his career. Scott Weiland was a drug addict flake... but his career is still going strong. I would do what I would be advised to do. It would be different is Stapp was dropped by Wind Up... then you could say tha he really hit an obstacle.

But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy.

[Chase]

But the difference here is who didn't know that Scott Weiland was into drugs, that was know surprise, it wasn't shocking to know that at all. Because he didn't put a front on trying to say no I don't do this and no, I don't do that. And now here is Scott Stapp saying on mancow show how he doesn't drink and he'll give it to his girlfriend. But now we see that Scott Stapp does drink, and maybe a little to much. See with a lot of rock stars, u don't have to second guess, cause we see them do stupid things all the time, and they don't try to back it up saying this and that, we just know how they are already. But Scott covers his shit up alot and tries to be this man that he's not, and now he's paying the price, example of paying the price, a lot of his fans a not happy.

I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life.

[Stappishot]

I don't remember Stapp never saying he doesn't drink. I remember in a Rolling Stone article where Stapp relaxed and had a beer after a concert. Also... one of the times that Weiland was arrested... I remember him denying the charges. Sure, a lot of fans aren't happy. But there are also a lot of fans who don't really care about what he does in his personal life.


Well u must of missed that interview, that was the one when he was in Chicago promoting his solo album. Ok so weiland denied a charge, but does it really surprise u if Weiland denied charges or does drugs? If Weiland came on the Casino show drunk, would it be a big deal? Yes, a lot of his fans don't care what he does in his personal life, but some of fans do. But i'll tell ya this, I wanna see how the rest of his solo career does, cause I believe in 2nd chances. :D

[Muad'Dib]

Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

[Robin101]

Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

Ahh...finally - agreed! :D

[Stappishot]

Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.


I really doubt there gonna drop Stapp. I mean come on.

When he went on tv drunk, it was a big deal to SOME of his fans. If his fans aren't concerned, then he wont be. He'll just do it again, and again. I think if Stapp does read what we write, I don't think he'll drink as much, because he'll see that the fans care and don't wanna see him like that. If we don't care, then y should he? But like I said b4, I believe in 2nd chances. And Stapp deserves that much, from me anyway. But if I see he's drinking getting out of hand, then there wont be another chance.

[Steve]

Fans cared about Weiland and his personal life mainly cos it was life threatening. Stapp went on TV drunk, big deal! Everyone makes mistakes, what he does about it after is what matters. If he continues doing it then it becomes a problem. One incident is not going to jeopardise his career, right now hes probably viewed as Wind-Ups biggest money maker, they arent going to drop him.

See but that's the thing. This isn't the first time Stapp has made the "wrong choices" - it's just the bad choice that leads to negative press. Chicago concert, the bar fights, and now this. There's a pattern here...

[TeriB19]

Exactly. This isn't his first public bad choice.

[Robin101]

Being from the UK I'm not too familiar with the level of press Stapp receives.

Has the CC, 311 incident been prominent in the press?

[titan9]

Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp.

[uncertaindrumer]

Not really all that much. I haven't heard it mentioned on too many TV entertainment shows. But I do know it has been talked about on the radio a good bit. Still, it hasn't received that much press. In Creed's heyday, though, it probably would have been talked about more. One thing I've found interesting, though: the press was quick to get out 311's side of the story.....yet I do not hear much of a mention of Stapp's side of it. I blame it on the bias toward Stapp.

You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez.

[Rocketqueen]

HEY THATS OK BECAUSE YOU CAN BLAME THE MEDIA FOR EVERYTHING !!!! Your Not Going Hurt Theme they are use to it Nobody defends The Media ,

[Ana4Stapp]

You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez.

:rolleyes:
Honestly is getting very, very hard to defend Stapp...

[titan9]

You are going to blame the MEDIA to defend Stapp? Geez.

No, no, no, that's not at all what I meant. All I meant was that, because the vast majority of the media has a hatred for Scott(and he might just deserve the negativeness), there's a strong bias toward Scott, and it is not good. Thus, anytime he makes a mistake in public, the media is quick to hop all over it. But when he does something right....or addresses his mistake, the media isn't going to say much. That's what I meant.