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Old 06-17-2004, 09:12 PM   #1
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So what is the meaning of the crest then?

So now that the band is done, will they or won't they define the meaning of the "crest." Seeing as how it's tattooed on my body, I'd like to know what it means someday. What do you guys think it is?
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Old 06-17-2004, 09:55 PM   #2
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It was the design on a belt buckle. This was discussed by members of CreedPit and Jeff Hanson last Friday.
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Old 06-17-2004, 11:11 PM   #3
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I thought Stapp had said that he had the belt buckle made to look like the crest? Anyway, it's just a design to me. Keep in mind, not everything means something.


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Old 06-18-2004, 01:06 AM   #4
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I'm sure I heard something about it being a design on a cave or something, or was that something else? I can't remember now.

It would be awesome if the crest does have a meaning, I think it does, but Colin's right, it could just be a design.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:07 AM   #5
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No, there actually is a hidden meaning. If you go back to articles about Creed in different magazines, they say there is a hidden meaning. It has something to do with an Indian symbol. It possibly means peace. There is also a website that a guy has that tells the research he's done on it. It's not just a symbol for the band. It did signify something.
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:30 AM   #6
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Yes ... I remember that too. It also talked about all the links to the hidden messages found on the album covers and something to do with the time on the clocks on Human Clay.
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Creed actually had a game they made up, somewhat of a maze, you had to find clues that were hidden in different places to advance. Let me see if I can find that site.
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:16 PM   #8
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http://www.petitiononline.com/CREED/petition.html

This is a petition to find out the meaning of the game. I'll keep looking.
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:22 PM   #9
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Here's a question/answer session from 2001 on the crest, from this site:

http://creed_lover03.tripod.com/creed_chat

CWWjovanna19: About the crest, is it an Aztec Compass? I heard that somewhere. Also, how do you really feel when you see fans with it permanently inked on them? (tattoos) I recently got mine.

Scott Stapp: Crest, actually, until--we don't want to give away the secret to that, and we're going to let it keep going. It's not an Aztec compass but for now we'll keep it to ourselves and give fans bits and pieces. When we see it permanently inked on, seeing that crest and Creed on your body. I have Creed on my body, and it's not necessarily saying you believe that the band is so great - but you're inking on your body a forever reminder of Creed - something you believe in. You may have gotten the idea initially from hearing our music and being in Creed, but I think at the end of the day it's not about the band, it's about permanently inking on your body a reminder of something you truly believe in, something personal within.
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Here's another q&a with Scott from http://www.creed.com/band/qanda/11_10_2001.html

DAZ: I know you don't want to give out the meaning of the crest as of yet, but I am trying to do some research on my own. Is the crest, of Cherokee, Lakota, or Chippewa descent? I have looked on multiple web sites and books, and can't find it any wheres, however, I have heard it is Cherokee for friendship. Thinkin' of that third tatt already, and just don't wanna take the plunge unless I know the meaning. And what is your second tattoo of?

SS: Keep searching! You're getting warm...
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:06 PM   #11
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Ohhh yeah, I remember that. Hmm I hope they come out with it now.
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If someone really knows what the crest means please fill me in. I'm considering getting this crest tattooed.
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:39 AM   #13
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Quote: (Originally Posted by freedom fighter) If someone really knows what the crest means please fill me in. I'm considering getting this crest tattooed.
JUST A DESIGN ON A BELT BUCKLE.

It stands for "Creed" just like the big yellow rounded M stands for "McDonald's".
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Quote: (Originally Posted by creedlvr) and something to do with the time on the clocks on Human Clay.
The clock on HC stands on "06:14", something like that. Anyway, it was the time Jaggar was born.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) JUST A DESIGN ON A BELT BUCKLE.

It stands for "Creed" just like the big yellow rounded M stands for "McDonald's".
Are you sure? It seems to be some kind of hidden meaning behind it!
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