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Old 03-26-2004, 11:38 AM   #16
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Quote: (Originally Posted by handmedown) thanks for all of this stuff i am passing it on!

I'm glad you found it helpful, here's another nice quote:

The Vulture is Cursing


Therefore we refuse to accept any controller of this universe, because as soon as we accept some controller, then we'll have to account for our sinful activities. As soon as there is a government, then we shall be responsible for our unlawful activities. But our position is that we want to continue our sinful activities. As such it is very good to deny any controller. That is the basic principle of godlessness. Why these rascals, they deny there is no God, God is dead? Because they want to continue their rascaldom without any restriction. That is the basic principle, they deny. But do you mean to say that denying the God, the God will die or God will..., there will be no God? No. There is a nice Bengali proverb, sakuni svape garu more na. Sakuni means the vulture. The vulture wants some dead carcass of animal, a cow especially. So for days together they do not get it, so it is cursing some cow, "You die." So does it mean that by his cursing the cow will die? Similarly, these vultures, sakuni, they want to see God is dead. At least, they take pleasure, "Oh, now God is dead. I can do anything nonsense I like." This is going on. Sakuni is cursing, the vulture is cursing the cow.
So this sort of knowledge will not do. One must know that there is a controller. That is the beginning of knowledge. Why should you deny? In every field of activity we find some controller. How can I deny that there is no controller of this creation?

[Srila Prabhupada Lecture from Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.12, Montreal, August 18, 1968]
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Old 03-26-2004, 12:41 PM   #17
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Hypothesis - You cannot expect machine going on without operator

Prabhupada: Hypothesis. Hypothesis. Just like yesterday I was explaining that as soon as there is a machine, there is an operator. This is hypothesis. You cannot expect machine going on without operator. Similarly, this material nature is a machine and the operator is God. This is hypothesis. Even though you do not see God we can make this suggestion. That is human reasoning, logic. If any ordinary typewriter machine... This is a machine, but that requires operator. He is pushing this button; then it is working. It is not automatically working, any machine. So how this big machine is operating without any operator? What is this nonsense? They say, "There is no God. Nature, nature." What is the nature? Nature is a machine. Just like this body. This body is machine, and the operator is the soul, and the guide is the Supersoul. As soon as the soul goes away, then the machine does not work. This is common sense. But they have no common sense; therefore they are rascals, so-called scientists and others. They have no common sense.

* THE HARE KRISHNA SAINT TORTURED AND POISONED TO DEATH BY HIS JUDAS DISCIPLES

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Old 03-26-2004, 01:55 PM   #18
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Ok, your post is waaaaayyyyy tooooo long and you have been asked now for the third time:
ARE YOU A CREED FAN???
If not, why are you here?
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:35 PM   #19
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To long didnt read
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Old 03-28-2004, 01:56 AM   #20
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I have a fovor to ask -- can someone summarize that long long double post s/he did, please?
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:05 AM   #21
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I think he was basically trying to say, using amusing stories and quotes from his well reputed eastern counterparts, that dispite convincing, scientifically-slanted arguments, God exists...

But I didnt read it all.
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Old 03-28-2004, 12:15 PM   #22
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Sincirr) I think he was basically trying to say, using amusing stories and quotes from his well reputed eastern counterparts, that dispite convincing, scientifically-slanted arguments, God exists...

But I didnt read it all.
well that clears it up for me , sincirr, but i dont really to get in to that deep to know that HE IS GOD, But I Admire this Guy, because it takes all kind of people to witnness about God On diffrent Lanugae Levels, I myself Have Ran into that some probleam, LOL, But has far as my self i know what hes coming from i just dont know understand a words he says, because i got to set here like a dunce and sound out most of his words, HaHaha Rock On Monti
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Old 03-28-2004, 03:48 PM   #23
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Lechium) I have a fovor to ask -- can someone summarize that long long double post s/he did, please?

Ya no kiddin
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Old 03-30-2004, 04:16 PM   #24
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Never did answer whether of not he was Creed fan did s/he???????
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:39 PM   #25
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well religious zealot... gotta be creed fan, right?
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