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Old 02-15-2006, 04:15 PM   #1
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Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Did Scott Stapp write the lyrics for Creed... or did Scott write some songs and then Mark write others? If anyone knows, can you tell me which songs are accredited to which artist?

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Old 02-15-2006, 04:25 PM   #2
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

I believe they both did..........
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:14 PM   #3
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Quote: (Originally Posted by megantx) I believe they both did..........
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Old 02-16-2006, 04:46 AM   #4
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Scott wrote most songs lyrics but Mark wrote a bit here and their.

Mark wrote the chorus to MOP.
A verse in torn.

and theres a couple more little bits aswell
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Old 02-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #5
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Thanks for the responses guys/gals. The question came to my mind when I was listening to my AB cd. I started to reallize that even though I liked the sound of AB I just don't feel the same connection with the words. It seems that with most of the Creed songs and with Scott's new album that the songs have substance and meaning. Besides the awesome sound of Tremonti's guitar and Scotts great voice, the words are what actually brought me to love Creed. You hear so many Creed haters say that they are a Pearl Jam knock off. I think that couldn't be farther from the truth. I will admit when I first heard them that I thought they sounded like a mix of PJ and SoundGarden. As I listened to them more I reallized they were unlike any other band. Tremonti is one of the best guitarist I can think of and, although Scott's voice has the same tone as Vedder's, his words are more understandable. Pearl Jam and Nirvana are what brought me to love this type of music but I can't think of a single song from PJ that actually has some meaning or substance. That's not an insult to PJ its just one of many things that makes the 2 bands different.


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Old 02-16-2006, 02:51 PM   #6
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

I believe Mark wrote Torn and Scott wrote most of the rest.
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

I read somewhere that Mark wrote a bunch of the tracks but Stapp just changed a few words here and there so he could be in the writing credits.

Can't remember where I read it, but it's probably true. Scott wrote most of the lyrics but I think Mark wrote a lot more than people think, plus he wrote the music.
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:41 PM   #8
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

GO: I understand that writing credits got to be a sore spot in Creed.

MT: Yeah, it's a big sore spot when you work 24 hours a day writing songs and
you don't get credit for it.

BM: It's important to realize that Mark's always been the visionary behind both
this band and Creed. Stapp probably takes more credit than he deserves.

MK: When I came into it and saw how things worked, from song to song... the
best analogy I can use is The Wizard of Oz, where there was this figurehead,
so to speak, that everyone thought was Creed, but really, there was someone
else behind the curtain, pushing all the buttons. And it wasn't just Mark - it was
these other guys as well. I've never been a part of a band where, creatively,
there was something as unique and as special as these three guys being in a
room together. Their intuition is just so right.

SP: Scott would always find a way to change things, and if they had made
the songs that much better, I could have understood it. But it never felt that
way; it felt like he changed things just so he could have a part in it. To be
honest with you, I always enjoyed a lot of Creed songs - when I first heard
Mark's original version of them.

MT: That was one of the most frustrating things; working around the clock on a
song - or an album, for that matter - getting it really worked out, and then
having someone come in, after it's been written for months, and trying to alter
it.


That was from an Alter Bridge interview
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Yeah... I didn't know where to find it but I was on my way when I saw this thread. But Orpoher you got here first

If you don't belive Mark then look at some words and how the songs are build up. Like "crown of thorn" is a tipical line for Mark obviosly. The songs in Creed always start of as sad, and they always end happy. Like BW, it starts of like you can't win, the world is full of victims etc but then ends whith med your brothers, take care, life aint over. And if you look at Inside Us All it starts of here as I'm all alone, sitting by the phone to remind me I'm still here etc. Realy sad stuff. But it ends with Mark(/stapp if you like since he's singing) calling you to tear down a wall and show your scars, he's telling you you're no different from anyone else...

Whiles Stapp in Fitght Song he has no kind of structure on the same levle. He just (IMO) blurt things out. He just tells you sometimes it starts like this or that, he wont lie, had to let things go etc. and ends with "It" took him away from all the things he love so he had to let things go etc.
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Quote: (Originally Posted by RoffeDH) Does anyone know if Myles like my "jungel vrål" candy? Gave it to them when they were in London last time... PM me and tell me

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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

What the hell u talking about.

Scott wrote most of the lyrics.
Look at all the greatest creed songs

Look at MOP scott wrote all the lyrics apart from the chorus (the bit mark sings)

Higher - ALL Scott
WAWO - ALL Scott
Facelessman - All scott
My Sacrifice - All Scott
What if - All scott

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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Are you for real? What makes you think that? Compare the lyrics and lyrical structure on Creed-Stapp and on Creed-AB and you'll see that the Creed-AB has the better match... Oh, and when 3/4 of the band says that Mark wrote the lyrics, it have more credability then when 1/4 of the band say it's them.
You're actually right on ONE thing, and that's WAWO, Stapp wrote that one, Mark gives Stapp all credit for that one and yes it was the only one they won any price for as far as I know. But Mark wrote the songs... Stapp made some fill ins here and there that the rest of the band didn't like.

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Old 02-18-2006, 04:29 PM   #14
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Wow!! Some people still think that Mark was the lyrical force behind Creed.
I have to disagree with them COMPLETELY.

I have found absolutely no similarities whatsoever between Creed and Alter Bridge lyrically.

I have noticed that, although Mark has shown to be a competent lyricist in AB, he tried to write too much like Scott. The structure to AB songs (lyrically) are far inferior to Creed - they don't flow as well. Don't get me wrong, I love AB, but Scott was the lyrical force behind Creed.

Scott's lyrics in TGD were simple, yet well structured eg Justify, Surround Me and Broken. And how many times does Stapp use the term 'Friend' in TGD? That word popped up quite a number of times in Creed songs eg Higher, Hide, My Sacrifice.

Another great example is Scott himself - a tortured soul if ever there was one. Think of him and look at the lyrics to the My Own Prison album.
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Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?

Quote: (Originally Posted by RoffeDH) You're actually right on ONE thing, and that's WAWO, Stapp wrote that one, Mark gives Stapp all credit for that one and yes it was the only one they won any price for as far as I know. But Mark wrote the songs... Stapp made some fill ins here and there that the rest of the band didn't like.

The only song Scott wrote? Didn't that win them a Grammy? Oh well, not a bad record!
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