Creed are Righties about the war!

[JenRN]

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Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
I don´t... I was just trying to make the differences between lefties and righties clear...

I don't think that using Castro for an example would be too good for the Democrats I think explaining things that make up the parties beliefs or standards would be better, just the way i feel about it!

[Bridge of Clay]

no, you didn´t get it! Democrats are righties too, but Republicans are on the right side of Democrats, making then "rightier" than democrats...

[Bridge of Clay]

here:

picture a line...

xtreme left - .....left................|.....center....|.....rig ht....-xtreme right
_C__________OS___DS____|_SD____SL|___L(d)_®-________|
Karl Marx´s view <<<

C: Comunism - is utopic, against private property. Everything belongs to the goverment, specially corporations.
OS: Ortodox Socialism: China, North Korea, Cuba
DS: Democratic Socialism

Socialism: Everything that´s produced by the societ must be shared equally. Socialism is a stage to comunism.

Center:
Social Democracy: the State (gov) has an important role on Health, Education, Security, Transports, Culture. For example: Brazil´s actual president.

Social Liberalism: the State has an important role on Education and Health and Security, but has a liberal Economic´s policy.

Right: Capitalism > the production belongs to the private sector

Liberalism: the State has a minimum role on society, takes care of a few things only. Individualism.

Correct me if I´m wrong from now on:

Democrats: liberals (righties)

Republicans: liberals too on Economy (although Bush is intervening on it), but has different views on other matters that you know better than me... Republicans are more nationalists (there´s a difference between nationalism and patriotism) and they´re closer to extreme right. I mean closer (than democrats), but not that there´s a thin line between republicans and extreme right.

Extreme Right:

Very nationalist, in some cases they are xenophobic, like Hitler, for example.
But that are more moderated extreme righties: like Singapure and Augusto Pinochet in Chile...

[Bridge of Clay]

The line is a little bit confusing, but I did my best. I hope you can understand it.

that´s it... I hope the fuss is gone now...

[JenRN]

I am not too sure of some of your analogies, they seen a little off but that is OK it is hard when you are not in the states to understand our government!

[Bridge of Clay]

I know! that´s why I said "correct me from now on" !

I didn´t get what you meant with that analogies part: you´re saying about just the US parties or the rest too?

Coz about the US I know I may be a bit far off, but about the rest (the non-US parts) I´m almost sure it´s correct....

[Mr. Prophet Man]

:::sings:::


"<i>what is right or wrong? I dunno who to believe in. My soul sings a different song in America"</i>

[JenRN]

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Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
<b>I know! that´s why I said "correct me from now on" ! &nbsp;

I didn´t get what you meant with that analogies part: you´re saying about just the US parties or the rest too?

Coz about the US I know I may be a bit far off, but about the rest (the non-US parts) I´m almost sure it´s correct.... </b>

Mainly I am referring to to US analogies. I am not a political expert but I am educated well enough on policies and parties etc.... I made myself learn better so I can vote accordingly. I feel very strong about certain issues like pro-choice/ life etc.. and death penalty etc.. so I really try to educate myself on how each party stands and the people running. Sometimes I live in a very black and white word when it is mostly grey, it is hard sometimes. I am a very passionate person and have strong beliefs, I have an open mind too but on some things I stand firm, VERY FIRM!

[Bridge of Clay]

I see. Well, I had no intention in making things sound different than what they are, and I know I still have a lot to learn (and want to) about it, coz I´ll have do deal with this matters when I´m graduated, so if it seemed I was taking part, I´m sorry and feel free to tell me what´s wrong.

But basically, liberalism is a economic ideology and not a political one. People make confusion about it all around the world. Being righty is different than being liberal. Although liberals are called righties here and I know democrats are called lefties and liberals there. But as I said, democrats are on the left side of the right side... like that line...

oh, I just realized this is a messed up post, but make some effort to understand what I´m (trying to) say.

Anyway, could you post what each party stands for,please? As Grissom would say "We learn something new everyday!"

[JenRN]

I would feel "funny" posting what each party stands for because I don't want to say something wrong and upset anyone on here more than I already have! But basically I can give you a "general" idea:

Republican
-conservative
-mostly pro-life
-usually for the death penalty
-for welfare reform
-does not support affirmative action(usually)
-conservative views in general

Democrat
-liberals
-mostly pro-choice
-most are against the death penatly
-support, and are more "forgiving" to welfare recipients
-moslty support affirmative action
-mostly very liberal in views such as gay rights etc..


***** Marcos please understand this is a general idea it goes MUCH deeper than this, and notice I use the words "usaully" etc.. there is really nothing concrete. I would hate to quote anything wrong about this, my suggestion to you is to read AMERICAN journals and books NOT ones from other countries because they never seem to show the real picture!

[Bridge of Clay]

yeah, I know! It´s pretty much the idea I had about both parties... don´t be afraid to say something wrong, when you do, just look at me! :P hehehe