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07-26-2003, 01:35 AM | #1 |
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Scott Stapp's Chicago Explaination... survey
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He definitely would have been better off to have said nothing. I'm not really buying the explanation, either, but there's no way he's going to ever say he was drunk or high or whatever the case was because of the lawsuit. That's just reality.
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I'm just from the school of thought of, well, just being honest and letting the chips fall where they may. That's realism as far as I'm concerned.
I now really have serious questions about Stapp's character... sadly.
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I'm not defending what he said or did, but there are many bad characters in the rock world, just as there are many bad characters in many other walks of life. I have learned not to expect much from people because overall, they disappoint me most of the time. But that's just me .
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I agree, I think. It's just that I get a bit sick of those people (and you know they do this) that try to rationalize everything Stapp has said. Argh!
I love my Creed, but I'm not going to put blinders on when they do something reprehensible. As a Creed fan, I really am embarassed by Scott's behavior and I'm not afraid to say it.
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I hear ya, velocity. It's mostly about the music for me anyway.
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Personally I think we should forget it already! It is in the past, and people just need to MOVE ON!! If I got my panties in a knot everytime something dissapointed me that I paid money for, hell I would never leave the house!
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Well, it's not like it's old news. And it's not about the $$... it's about the fact that so many people seem to just accept what he says. It's very aggrivating.
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If Scott came out and said I'm sorry I got drunk, he would be sued for just being honest, I agree with Dogstar he's better off just to stay quiet
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EXACTELY!!!!!! But in the same sense why the hell should he get sued for being drunk? This is a rock concert NOT a Disney Show!!!!! I mean we could go back and forth with this forever, some people feel aggrivated and some are just like "get over it already!"
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Well he's already been sued.
If Scott would have just *told the truth* from the beginning and either refunded the ticket prices or given a complementary concert, they wouldn't have been in this mess. Now, they are screwed either way... 1) They win the suit, but get horrible publicity and retain the profits made from Chicago. However, all those legal fees will likely make that a moot point. 2)They lose the suit, and get even worse publicity and lose the profits from Chicago. Moreover, the legal fees make it even worse. And these are just legal/financial points -- I didn't even mention the moral aspects of this situation. BOTTOM LINE: Don't screw your fans over and then lie to them. Duh.
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Personally I think that the people who found such offense to his behavior should of saved their ticket stub and the band should have refunded them. Not all the people that attended that show feel the same way. I just think it is riduculous that Creed is held to these standards. No matter what, a couple of people who started all this crap have made it a problem! I have attended a rock show before and been less than satisfied but I got over it and did not make such a damn big deal over it!
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Just so you know, I'm not for these suits. I mean, the two guys that started this thing have a bit too much time on their hands. "Losing" $50 to a questionable show isn't the end of the world.
But I really don't think it's about the money... it's about Creed not respecting the fans. I mean, it should come as no suprise that if you totally disrespect them, a few are going to go legally ballistic on you. All Creed had to do was make it right with the fans (as you said) and none of this stuff would have happened. Now, as far as I'm concerned, the negative press they are currently recieving is totally valid. Particularly after Stapp's recent comments. I don't think he learned a thing in all this.
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I feel bad for him sometimes. No matter what he freakin says people are pissed. If he is genuine and nice and giving people call him a "pussy" and loser. If he acts out or does something less than desirable people riducule him then. No matter what he does someone is always ragging on him. I quite frankly don't know any other rock star that is riduculed like he is! Then people say "he did it to himself" well....... not so! He never once said he was GOD or better than anyone else, it is others that INTERPRITED it that way, it is their issue not his!
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I'm going to see 3 DOORS DOWN tonite, and I'm going to get drunk before I go so I wont be upset if the band come out drunk and put on a bad show.
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