gays in religion - Page 8

njcreedite · 01-26-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) It's not in the "Top Ten" list.... so... I'm thinking in another 25 years or so it will be thought of as divorce is now.

let's hope so...intolerance is intolerable.

Dogstar · 01-26-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) It's not in the "Top Ten" list.... so... I'm thinking in another 25 years or so it will be thought of as divorce is now.

bgivens33 · 01-26-2004, 05:49 PM

Yes, but is tolerating intolerence intolerable? Or do you have to become intolerent to intolerence to become tolerent?? That is the real question.

Dogstar · 01-26-2004, 05:56 PM

LOL, now that's a tongue-twister, but I see your point.

njcreedite · 01-26-2004, 06:06 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) Yes, but is tolerating intolerence intolerable? Or do you have to become intolerent to intolerence to become tolerent?? That is the real question.

Ahhhhhh excellent point. I think we all need to be tolerant of all people but can be intolerent to intolerable ideas...

Prs4me · 01-28-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:I usually leave these threads alone...cause I tend to be more liberal than most, but.....

Not that long ago left handed people were persecuted as being of Satan.
Now of course we know that being left handed, right handed or ambidextrous is just a part of brain function...nothing more, nothing less.

Sexual orientation is the same thing. I'm hoping someday science will be able to prove (it's already done this..but I guess it's still too complex for most to understand. ) in an easily understood way...how this is all just a matter of brain function. Till then, I just hope most people live and let live.
__________________

I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes".
If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it.
God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful.
Just a thought.

Sincirr · 01-28-2004, 09:13 PM

Tollerance is intollerable!
Love everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!

creedsister · 01-28-2004, 09:25 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Prs4me) Quote:I usually leave these threads alone...cause I tend to be more liberal than most, but.....

Not that long ago left handed people were persecuted as being of Satan.
Now of course we know that being left handed, right handed or ambidextrous is just a part of brain function...nothing more, nothing less.

Sexual orientation is the same thing. I'm hoping someday science will be able to prove (it's already done this..but I guess it's still too complex for most to understand. ) in an easily understood way...how this is all just a matter of brain function. Till then, I just hope most people live and let live.
__________________

I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes".
If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it.
God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful.
Just a thought.

God Made Everything For Himself By Him Self B/C He Is God ]]] Hes at the door knocked and shall be open>SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND

souldancer · 01-28-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Prs4me) Quote:I
I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes".
If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it.
God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful.
Just a thought.

So, maybe God didn't mess up. And, what makes you think that God refers to homosexuality as sinful? I only know of people doing that.

Dogstar · 01-28-2004, 10:38 PM

Exactly, SD. And somebody earlier mentioned that it was not listed in the Top 10 of dos and don'ts.

hide · 01-28-2004, 10:59 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Exactly, SD. And somebody earlier mentioned that it was not listed in the Top 10 of dos and don'ts.

well its not something that people say and God doesn't care about, as much as we would like that to be the truth. Go and read your bibles both the Old and New Testaments. Genesis, Levictus, Galatians are a good start!

Dogstar · 01-28-2004, 11:06 PM

The Bible was written by man, thus it's said by man. It's all about interpretation and as njcreedite has said, wars have been fought over its words.

hide · 01-28-2004, 11:20 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) The Bible was written by man, thus it's said by man. It's all about interpretation and as njcreedite has said, wars have been fought over its words.

2 Timohty 3:16 the bible claims to be inspired by God, and if you say that is rubbish then hell we'll just invent our own God then! There are areas open to interpretation but this is not one of them, its black and white!

hide · 01-28-2004, 11:22 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by njcreedite) let's hope so...intolerance is intolerable.

it will be thought of as divorce is now but is this is from man's perspective after all that changes from year to year at best and means not much at all.

Dogstar · 01-28-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by hide) 2 Timohty 3:16 the bible claims to be inspired by God, and if you say that is rubbish then hell we'll just invent our own God then! There are areas open to interpretation but this is not one of them, its black and white!

Operative word, *claims* to be inspired by God, interpreted by man. Nothing in this life is black and white.

And there are those who believe man did invent God, just to explain the unexplainable...I'm not saying I subscribe to that thinking, but there are a lot of people who believe that.

01-26-2004, 05:38 PM	#106
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) It's not in the "Top Ten" list.... so... I'm thinking in another 25 years or so it will be thought of as divorce is now. let's hope so...intolerance is intolerable. __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

01-26-2004, 05:38 PM	#107
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) It's not in the "Top Ten" list.... so... I'm thinking in another 25 years or so it will be thought of as divorce is now. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-26-2004, 05:56 PM	#109
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	LOL, now that's a tongue-twister, but I see your point. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-26-2004, 06:06 PM	#110
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by bgivens33) Yes, but is tolerating intolerence intolerable? Or do you have to become intolerent to intolerence to become tolerent?? That is the real question. Ahhhhhh excellent point. I think we all need to be tolerant of all people but can be intolerent to intolerable ideas... __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

01-28-2004, 09:25 PM	#113
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Prs4me) Quote:I usually leave these threads alone...cause I tend to be more liberal than most, but..... Not that long ago left handed people were persecuted as being of Satan. Now of course we know that being left handed, right handed or ambidextrous is just a part of brain function...nothing more, nothing less. Sexual orientation is the same thing. I'm hoping someday science will be able to prove (it's already done this..but I guess it's still too complex for most to understand. ) in an easily understood way...how this is all just a matter of brain function. Till then, I just hope most people live and let live. __________________ I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes". If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it. God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful. Just a thought. God Made Everything For Himself By Him Self B/C He Is God ]]] Hes at the door knocked and shall be open>SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

01-26-2004, 05:49 PM	#108
bgivens33 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Yes, but is tolerating intolerence intolerable? Or do you have to become intolerent to intolerence to become tolerent?? That is the real question.

01-28-2004, 07:40 PM	#111
Prs4me USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 10 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote:I usually leave these threads alone...cause I tend to be more liberal than most, but..... Not that long ago left handed people were persecuted as being of Satan. Now of course we know that being left handed, right handed or ambidextrous is just a part of brain function...nothing more, nothing less. Sexual orientation is the same thing. I'm hoping someday science will be able to prove (it's already done this..but I guess it's still too complex for most to understand. ) in an easily understood way...how this is all just a matter of brain function. Till then, I just hope most people live and let live. __________________ I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes". If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it. God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful. Just a thought.

01-28-2004, 10:26 PM	#114
souldancer USER INFO » Status: Seeker Posts: 1,802 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Prs4me) Quote:I I could be wrong but isnt that like saying God messed up when He created man. IMHO science will never prove that homosexuality is in the "genes". If anything they will label it as hereditary only because they can not explan it. God would not create something, then say what He had created sinful. Just a thought. So, maybe God didn't mess up. And, what makes you think that God refers to homosexuality as sinful? I only know of people doing that. __________________ ..our youth will never die!

01-28-2004, 10:38 PM	#115
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Exactly, SD. And somebody earlier mentioned that it was not listed in the Top 10 of dos and don'ts. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-28-2004, 10:59 PM	#116
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Exactly, SD. And somebody earlier mentioned that it was not listed in the Top 10 of dos and don'ts. well its not something that people say and God doesn't care about, as much as we would like that to be the truth. Go and read your bibles both the Old and New Testaments. Genesis, Levictus, Galatians are a good start! __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

01-28-2004, 11:06 PM	#117
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	The Bible was written by man, thus it's said by man. It's all about interpretation and as njcreedite has said, wars have been fought over its words. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-28-2004, 11:20 PM	#118
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) The Bible was written by man, thus it's said by man. It's all about interpretation and as njcreedite has said, wars have been fought over its words. 2 Timohty 3:16 the bible claims to be inspired by God, and if you say that is rubbish then hell we'll just invent our own God then! There are areas open to interpretation but this is not one of them, its black and white! __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

01-28-2004, 11:22 PM	#119
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by njcreedite) let's hope so...intolerance is intolerable. it will be thought of as divorce is now but is this is from man's perspective after all that changes from year to year at best and means not much at all. __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

01-28-2004, 11:24 PM	#120
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by hide) 2 Timohty 3:16 the bible claims to be inspired by God, and if you say that is rubbish then hell we'll just invent our own God then! There are areas open to interpretation but this is not one of them, its black and white! Operative word, claims to be inspired by God, interpreted by man. Nothing in this life is black and white. And there are those who believe man did invent God, just to explain the unexplainable...I'm not saying I subscribe to that thinking, but there are a lot of people who believe that. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery. Last edited by Dogstar : 01-28-2004 at 11:26 PM.

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