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raidersfan1281 · 03-14-2003, 05:17 PM

Creed says they are not a christian band we all know that. Say they are really a christian. Do you think that denying christ is a good thing? As christians you are suppost to proclaim that christ died and rose from the grave. You are not suppost to deny christ. I don't know if any of the guys are christian but if they are do you think it is wrong for them to hide it?

P.S.- I am not trying to make anyone mad. I just want to see what people think. I think creed is awsome and i don't really care if they say they are christian or not.

cjme · 03-14-2003, 05:28 PM

You can believe in God and still play Rock & Roll, no? If they had planned to become a Christian Band, I'm sure they would have titled their songs and written the lyrics accordingly. I wonder what it takes for them to shake that image? And no, I've never heard about them denying God, acctually the opposite is true. But that's just my thoughts.

C-Dogg · 03-14-2003, 05:48 PM

In a Q&A I read about the band, possibly on their own website, I'm not too sure, but they were asked if they were Christians. They basically said that they were not what people generally call "Christians" but they all do believe in God in their own way, and basically don't support or really agree with organized religion. They have their own belief system, per se, but are simply good, kind-hearted people who play Rock & Roll, and to me are the greated band with the greatest music in the world.

Sheila63 · 03-14-2003, 07:02 PM

I've heard the same thing, C-Dogg. And you're right, they are the greatest, IMO!!

hotforscott · 03-14-2003, 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by creedfan63
I've heard the same thing, C-Dogg.  And you're right, they are the greatest, IMO!!

Ditto!

DangerousDan85 · 03-14-2003, 08:13 PM

raidersfan1281 · 03-14-2003, 08:33 PM

i understand what you guys are saying but do you think it is wrong to say yes i believe in a god and i am sort of christian. to me you can't be in the middle i believe you have to be a christian or not.

i really like creed and i love their lyrics. i am not saying they are bad people i'm just asking what you believe. it is not for me to judge if they are a christian or not.

TeriB19 · 03-14-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DangerousDan85
Dido

Thank You.

Anyway, if Creed were a Christian band, they'd be praising God and singing "Join us in our quest to the road to heaven" and "Lift up your hands to the glory of God". This is not being done, and that's fine with me. I am a Christian, I believe in God. I do not go to church on a regular basis and don't believe that these men either have to admit or renounce whatever it is that they believe in just to accommodate those who want a clear definitive answer. You either like them or you don't. What they believe shouldn't enter into it. They are not trying to convert anyone. Let them live.

Bridge of Clay · 03-14-2003, 09:35 PM

just because you´re Christian, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God as a gospel spreader. You can praise God when you do your job correctly, with honesty.

If you´re a Christian engineer, for example, you don´t have how to praise God. If you´re a musician, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God in your songs.

I understand why they don´t support organized religion. Church can let you down several times, since it´s made by humans to get closer to God. I also believe God wants us to live in a community, that´s why I go to church. No matter how it lets me down sometimes, I have to close my eyes to the bad stuff and be thankful for the good stuff.

Secondly, Creed helps lots and lots of people with their positive message. So, Christians or not, they aren´t going in the opposite way of God.

I hope you got my point.

Their beliefs are their business!

TeriB19 · 03-14-2003, 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°

If you´re a Christian engineer, for example, you don´t have how to praise God. If you´re a musician, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God in your songs.

Their beliefs are their business!

Marcos, I've never heard it expressed any better than you just did!! Excellent!!

Sheila63 · 03-15-2003, 11:13 AM

Absolutely, right Teri!! Bravo, Marcos!!

I consider myself a Christian and I also believe in God although I don't go to church on a regular basis. In my opinion, guys from Creed are Christian. I think it all depends on how you define it.

Dogstar · 03-15-2003, 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by raidersfan1281
i understand what you guys are saying but do  you  think it is wrong to say yes i believe in a god and i am sort of christian.  to me you can't be in the middle i believe you have to be a christian or not.

No, I don't and I don't think I or anyone else should be judged poorly because of that. But that's my view. I respect whatever it is you believe even if I don't agree with it. Many here know my views on organized religion, especially Catholicism, so I won't bore you with the details. Suffice it to say that my spirituality is not defined by man-made religious rules or found inside the walls of a church. In my heart I believe there is something more powerful than we and that there is a God who listens to us and loves us.

The members of Creed have said on many occasions that while they are not a Christian band, they each have their beliefs in God. I don't know how much more direct they can be and why this question or desire to make them Christians persists. I don't understand why people cannot be grateful for their music and let them live their lives free of the judgmental tendencies of some religions.

In the words of Creed: Believe what you will, that is your right.

hotforscott · 03-15-2003, 08:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TeriB19
<b>Thank You.  

Anyway, if Creed were a Christian band, they'd be praising God and singing "Join us in our quest to the road to heaven" and "Lift up your hands to the glory of God". This is not being done, and that's fine with me. I am a Christian, I believe in God. I do not go to church on a regular basis and don't believe that these men either have to admit or renounce whatever it is that they believe in just to accommodate those who want a clear definitive answer. You either like them or you don't. What they believe shouldn't enter into it. They are not trying to convert anyone. Let them live. </b>

Right on, Teri.

hotforscott · 03-15-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Dogstar
No, I don't and I don't think I or anyone else should be judged poorly because of that. But that's my view. I respect whatever it is you believe even if I don't agree with it. Many here know my views on organized religion, especially Catholicism, so I won't bore you with the details. Suffice it to say that my spirituality is not defined by man-made religious rules or found inside the walls of a church. In my heart I believe there is something more powerful than we and that there is a God who listens to us and loves us.  

The members of Creed have said on many occasions that while they are not a Christian band, they each have their beliefs in God. I don't know how much more direct they can be and why this question or desire to make them Christians persists. I don't understand why people cannot be grateful for their music and let them live their lives free of the judgmental tendencies of some religions.  

In the words of Creed: Believe what you will, that is your right.

Right on to you, too, Dogstar! You guys rock!

DangerousDan85 · 03-16-2003, 12:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by C-Dogg
In a Q&A I read about the band, possibly on their own website

yes, they answered the question themselves

scroll down a little

F.A.Q.

03-14-2003, 05:17 PM	#1
raidersfan1281 USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 14 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	here a good ? Creed says they are not a christian band we all know that. Say they are really a christian. Do you think that denying christ is a good thing? As christians you are suppost to proclaim that christ died and rose from the grave. You are not suppost to deny christ. I don't know if any of the guys are christian but if they are do you think it is wrong for them to hide it? P.S.- I am not trying to make anyone mad. I just want to see what people think. I think creed is awsome and i don't really care if they say they are christian or not.

03-14-2003, 05:28 PM	#2
cjme USER INFO » Status: Broken Dream Posts: 160 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	You can believe in God and still play Rock & Roll, no? If they had planned to become a Christian Band, I'm sure they would have titled their songs and written the lyrics accordingly. I wonder what it takes for them to shake that image? And no, I've never heard about them denying God, acctually the opposite is true. But that's just my thoughts. __________________ walks a dark and lonely highway...found a song to lift me up...let me cover, let me guide you, be the one to teach you love

03-14-2003, 05:48 PM	#3
C-Dogg USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	In a Q&A I read about the band, possibly on their own website, I'm not too sure, but they were asked if they were Christians. They basically said that they were not what people generally call "Christians" but they all do believe in God in their own way, and basically don't support or really agree with organized religion. They have their own belief system, per se, but are simply good, kind-hearted people who play Rock & Roll, and to me are the greated band with the greatest music in the world. __________________ Clinton lied. A man might forget where he parks or where he lives, but he never forgets oral sex, no matter how bad it is. -Barbara Bush

03-14-2003, 07:02 PM	#4
Sheila63 USER INFO » Status: Opened My Eyes Posts: 5,748 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	I've heard the same thing, C-Dogg. And you're right, they are the greatest, IMO!! __________________ I was selfish, but you still loved me You gave the greatest gift of all And you set me free Relearn Love

03-14-2003, 07:37 PM	#5
hotforscott USER INFO » Status: Shed My Skin Posts: 7,130 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by creedfan63 I've heard the same thing, C-Dogg.  And you're right, they are the greatest, IMO!! Ditto! __________________ Got a new Papillon puppy named Ajax!

03-14-2003, 08:33 PM	#7
raidersfan1281 USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 14 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	i understand what you guys are saying but do you think it is wrong to say yes i believe in a god and i am sort of christian. to me you can't be in the middle i believe you have to be a christian or not. i really like creed and i love their lyrics. i am not saying they are bad people i'm just asking what you believe. it is not for me to judge if they are a christian or not.

03-14-2003, 09:24 PM	#8
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by DangerousDan85 Dido Thank You. Anyway, if Creed were a Christian band, they'd be praising God and singing "Join us in our quest to the road to heaven" and "Lift up your hands to the glory of God". This is not being done, and that's fine with me. I am a Christian, I believe in God. I do not go to church on a regular basis and don't believe that these men either have to admit or renounce whatever it is that they believe in just to accommodate those who want a clear definitive answer. You either like them or you don't. What they believe shouldn't enter into it. They are not trying to convert anyone. Let them live. __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

03-14-2003, 09:35 PM	#9
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	just because you´re Christian, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God as a gospel spreader. You can praise God when you do your job correctly, with honesty. If you´re a Christian engineer, for example, you don´t have how to praise God. If you´re a musician, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God in your songs. I understand why they don´t support organized religion. Church can let you down several times, since it´s made by humans to get closer to God. I also believe God wants us to live in a community, that´s why I go to church. No matter how it lets me down sometimes, I have to close my eyes to the bad stuff and be thankful for the good stuff. Secondly, Creed helps lots and lots of people with their positive message. So, Christians or not, they aren´t going in the opposite way of God. I hope you got my point. Their beliefs are their business! __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

03-14-2003, 09:43 PM	#10
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84° If you´re a Christian engineer, for example, you don´t have how to praise God. If you´re a musician, it doesn´t mean you have to praise God in your songs. Their beliefs are their business! Marcos, I've never heard it expressed any better than you just did!! Excellent!! __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

03-15-2003, 11:13 AM	#11
Sheila63 USER INFO » Status: Opened My Eyes Posts: 5,748 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	Absolutely, right Teri!! Bravo, Marcos!! I consider myself a Christian and I also believe in God although I don't go to church on a regular basis. In my opinion, guys from Creed are Christian. I think it all depends on how you define it. __________________ I was selfish, but you still loved me You gave the greatest gift of all And you set me free Relearn Love

03-15-2003, 12:46 PM	#12
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by raidersfan1281 i understand what you guys are saying but do  you  think it is wrong to say yes i believe in a god and i am sort of christian.  to me you can't be in the middle i believe you have to be a christian or not. No, I don't and I don't think I or anyone else should be judged poorly because of that. But that's my view. I respect whatever it is you believe even if I don't agree with it. Many here know my views on organized religion, especially Catholicism, so I won't bore you with the details. Suffice it to say that my spirituality is not defined by man-made religious rules or found inside the walls of a church. In my heart I believe there is something more powerful than we and that there is a God who listens to us and loves us. The members of Creed have said on many occasions that while they are not a Christian band, they each have their beliefs in God. I don't know how much more direct they can be and why this question or desire to make them Christians persists. I don't understand why people cannot be grateful for their music and let them live their lives free of the judgmental tendencies of some religions. In the words of Creed: Believe what you will, that is your right. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

03-15-2003, 08:55 PM	#13
hotforscott USER INFO » Status: Shed My Skin Posts: 7,130 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by TeriB19 <b>Thank You.   Anyway, if Creed were a Christian band, they'd be praising God and singing "Join us in our quest to the road to heaven" and "Lift up your hands to the glory of God". This is not being done, and that's fine with me. I am a Christian, I believe in God. I do not go to church on a regular basis and don't believe that these men either have to admit or renounce whatever it is that they believe in just to accommodate those who want a clear definitive answer. You either like them or you don't. What they believe shouldn't enter into it. They are not trying to convert anyone. Let them live. </b> Right on, Teri. __________________ Got a new Papillon puppy named Ajax!

03-15-2003, 08:56 PM	#14
hotforscott USER INFO » Status: Shed My Skin Posts: 7,130 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dogstar No, I don't and I don't think I or anyone else should be judged poorly because of that. But that's my view. I respect whatever it is you believe even if I don't agree with it. Many here know my views on organized religion, especially Catholicism, so I won't bore you with the details. Suffice it to say that my spirituality is not defined by man-made religious rules or found inside the walls of a church. In my heart I believe there is something more powerful than we and that there is a God who listens to us and loves us.   The members of Creed have said on many occasions that while they are not a Christian band, they each have their beliefs in God. I don't know how much more direct they can be and why this question or desire to make them Christians persists. I don't understand why people cannot be grateful for their music and let them live their lives free of the judgmental tendencies of some religions.   In the words of Creed: Believe what you will, that is your right. Right on to you, too, Dogstar! You guys rock! __________________ Got a new Papillon puppy named Ajax!

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