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[JenRN]

Dogstar!!!!! You go girl!!! Damn good as usual!

[Dogstar]

Heh ...thanks, Jen.

[Mr.Anderson]

Explain to me the Durst incident and the Chicago incident and why people constantly rag Creed cause of Scott Stapp. Plus the claim not to be Religious when the lyrics clearly aim at religion and then have stapp deny it totally.

[Dogstar]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr.Anderson)

Explain to me the Durst incident and the Chicago incident and why people constantly rag Creed cause of Scott Stapp.

Chicago is performance-related...
People rag on Scott for a lot of reasons, most of it performance-related...the Jesus poses, etc. I'm not going to rehash all that here.

You're not a member of the band, you don't know how they interact with each other off-stage and when they work together, and until you do, you can't speak to who caused the breakup.

[chafin24]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr.Anderson)

Explain to me the Durst incident and the Chicago incident and why people constantly rag Creed cause of Scott Stapp.

I like to hear more about the chicago concert incident, and did a bootleg or video of the concert ever surface the chicago one.

[JenRN]

Scott is different than so many other rock stars.... he did not fit the "mold" that was the norm for Rock stars which first off gave people amunition. As far as Durst, geez who the hell cares about him anyways. He is a punk straight out of the getto. No one said Scott was perfect, he has a reputation for many things. But he also does lots of good things lots of other rock stars would never even think of! I think people that point all the fingers should take some of that high powered perceptions and point them back at themselves!

[Mr.Anderson]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar)

Chicago is performance-related...
People rag on Scott for a lot of reasons, most of it performance-related...the Jesus poses, etc. I'm not going to rehash all that here.

You're not a member of the band, you don't know how they interact with each other off-stage and when they work together, and until you do, you can't speak to who caused the breakup.

You know you speak and tell me not to talk as if I know the band, but then you go off and spout of stuff like you know the band. Isn't that a little hypocritical.

[Dogstar]

Um, where do you get that? I'm saying nobody knows what happened, none of us, because we aren't members of the band. I said people, critics, rag on him for a lot of performance-related things. You were the one pointing fingers at Scott and I opined that you should refrain unless you know the band, which you don't. You are trying to deflect, and it's not working.

[creedsister]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar)

Chicago is performance-related...
People rag on Scott for a lot of reasons, most of it performance-related...the Jesus poses, etc. I'm not going to rehash all that here.

You're not a member of the band, you don't know how they interact with each other off-stage and when they work together, and until you do, you can't speak to who caused the breakup.

you go girl gogogo!!!!!!

[Mr.Anderson]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar)

Um, where do you get that? I'm saying nobody knows what happened, none of us, because we aren't members of the band. I said people, critics, rag on him for a lot of performance-related things. You were the one pointing fingers at Scott and I opined that you should refrain unless you know the band, which you don't. You are trying to deflect, and it's not working.

Sure it is you just don't realize it.

[Sheila63]

Quote: (Originally Posted by JenRN)

Scott is different than so many other rock stars.... he did not fit the "mold" that was the norm for Rock stars which first off gave people amunition. As far as Durst, geez who the hell cares about him anyways. He is a punk straight out of the getto. No one said Scott was perfect, he has a reputation for many things. But he also does lots of good things lots of other rock stars would never even think of! I think people that point all the fingers should take some of that high powered perceptions and point them back at themselves!

Amen to that, Jen.

And Dogstar

[Kim V.]

Go Dogstar! Now let's see......let's find that ignore option...hehe just kiddin'.

Thanks, Marcos and Sheila

[Sheila63]

You're welcome, Kim V.

[Jooji_2]

that the people who rag on Stapp all the time....when you start asking for specifics....actual quotes, etc......they never come up with any. The Durst incident....didn't Durst actually start that? So cause Fred Durst thinks someone is arrogant and stuck on themselves I'm supposed to believe him? Actually I think Fred thinks that about pretty much everyone EXCEPT himself...which makes me laugh....considering its now the "in" thing to throw stuff at him on stage. And on Chicago....I doubt that anyone will ever know what the problems were that caused that. You will never make me believe it was someting intentional. I do sometimes wonder though, if those four Chicago fans hadn't decided to make a name for themselves (one of the plaintiffs is a lawyer)....that the next Creed tour there might have been an attempt to make that situation right. Anyone's legal representation is going to recommend fighting a lawsuit, especially if the case could set a dangerous precedent.

Fact is.....all of the people who like to talk about what an ego Stapp has.....actually probably have never even met him. I've read probably every interview there is out there and just don't get it....but then if you want to see something negative, all you have to do it put a little spin on it...and voila....that's what these people are doing. Take something said in an interview and quote it out of context, or if need be just simply make something up....post it on the internet, give it a couple days....and its become fact. I think they should all become politicians....they appear to have all the qualifications......

[Mr.Anderson]

I believe I must apologize I came on kinda strong with some of the things I said. Anyways about some of those comments about Stapp, I mainly brought those up due to times where I had Creed discussions on other forums and people would constantly bring down the band. Most of these forums I was the only one fighting the war to save Creed integrity and thats were some of these issues that I brought up arose. For me bringing them here and thus believing some of them was kinda idiotic. Anyways I am sorry and hopefully none of this bs is true anyways.