RE: Closed thread - Page 2

Torn Daredevil · 01-25-2005, 07:31 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) He wrote a song about it called "Bullets." I think everyone needs to give the lyrics a look again.

He did? I thought Mark wrote that one...

aussiecreeder · 01-25-2005, 07:50 PM

It seems that some believe that the AB boys are not showing enough restraint in what they say about Stapp and they are "bashing him". I disagree completely, is telling what three people believe to be the truth bashing? I can't imagine it would be easy for Mark to say these things considering he is the godfather of Jagger but all 3 guys obviously feel the truth needs to be stated. What is the alternative? Let many continue to believe that Stapp is the second coming? Scott Stapp is probably only held in higher regard than Axl Rose and Fred Durst out there and eventually I think many of us have taken the blinkers off and see why.

BTW if a thread is closed why open another one to continue the discussion and play the martyr card?

RockGoddess · 01-25-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote: BTW if a thread is closed why open another one to continue the discussion and play the martyr card?

Good point. Although it did give me an opportunity to respond. lol

TeriB19 · 01-25-2005, 08:22 PM

The thread was NOT closed because of the so called 'Stapp bashers' or because of those that are 'Anti-AB'. It was closed because, as Steve said, after 9 pages, I got tired of reading the exact same thing in every post. If you think it 'smells of censorship' that's your opinion. MY opinion is, if a thread goes on that long and everyone is still spouting the same arguments, and nothing changes, it's pointless. If the discussion on the closed thread continues on THIS thread for 9 pages, with the same posts:

Stapp is persecuted.

No he's not, he's to blame.

No he's not, he's totally innocent.

No he's not, he's got issues.

If that goes on for 9 pages, this one will be closed too.

aussiecreeder · 01-25-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RockGoddess) Good point. Although it did give me an opportunity to respond. lol

lol you do enjoy it somewhat.....hehe.

ctfan · 01-25-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RockGoddess) Disgusting insults flung at you? You posted flat out lies about me. I
have never once boasted that I was in posession of salacious gossip and that all you had to do was pm me for the details. You claim I have done it many times on this board? Prove it. You won't be able to because it's a lie. And you know it.

edited for typos

My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her.

Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION.

RockGoddess · 01-25-2005, 08:37 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) lol you do enjoy it somewhat.....hehe.

Enjoy it? No.

I don't appreciate having lies posted about me. The thread was closed before I chose to respond. Ctfan continuing on her rant simply gave me the opprotunity to reply.

RockGoddess · 01-25-2005, 08:43 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her.

Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION.

Mertie's post, the one you quoted, was about me. In quoting her, you implied that you were talking about me. If you're going to talk smack, at least get your target right.

I love the smell of backpeddling. Reminds me of victory.

ctfan · 01-25-2005, 08:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Like Marcos said, it is pretty funny that all the problems recently are stemming from the same people. Kind of ironic, is it not?

Well I must have glossed over these "disgusting insults" but irregardless of that, if you want to feel that the thread was closed because of you and your difference of opinions - if that makes you feel better - then so be it. However the thread was closed because it was going nowhere. 9 pages of comments and nothing was solved.

And I'm not stupid either. You can badmouth me or my site all you want, but keep it at the vh1 boards.

Please show me where "this happens so much." Link to the threads that have been closed, or describe the ones that were removed. I can only think of two that were done so in the last month other than obvious troll threads or spam threads. (And I looked it up. In case you didn't know, vBulletin logs every moderator action. Only 2.) But since you know more than I do, enlighten me.

The "I support vomited Stapp" Steve. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. I was on the receiving end of that comment, but if that's what you allow here, so be it.

As far as your site being talked about at the VH1 boards, after being treated the way I have here the past few days....those people are justified. It's pounded home that you run this site the way you see fit, and that you are proud of it. You have no one else to blame for that but yourself. If you don't like the way the VH1 boards are moderated or operated....don't read there.

ctfan · 01-25-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Well, this is pretty much the reason I stopped posting in that thread around the 4th page. If you don't agree with the majority, be prepared to have your opinions challenged. And bashed on occasion. And it seems kinda pointless to defend your views. Everybody's entitled to their opinion, unfortunately not everyone can accept that.(that everyone has a right to their opinion)

I don't think I'm one of those "3 people" who only post to bash Alter Bridge. I'm a big AB fan, but for once I found myself arguing in defense of Stapp, in a sense. I don't think I bashed AB at all in my posts. I really only said that I wished they'd stop bashing Stapp. That's what I, personally, viewed it as. They said practically the same thing, interview after interview, about Stapp although they worded it more and more negatively each time. I'm just ready to move on and when I read an AB interview, I'd like to see them talking about the future(Alter Bridge) and not the past.(Creed/Stapp) I realize that the media is most to blame that they are still talking about Stapp/Creed, but I also realize that they could say "hey, we've talked about Creed/Stapp enough, let's talk about something else, something involving our current band." That's really been my whole point. I'm not bashing AB, don't take it like that. I'm done with these threads because, again, it seems pointless to continually defend my opinion when those who disagree will never agree with my opinion on this.

Titan, my apologies for bringing you in on all this. It wasn't my intention.

ctfan · 01-25-2005, 08:54 PM

With the exception of a couple of other people in this thread, the rest of you can save your breath and time defending yourselves, your comments, and your actions to me.

My opinions will remain as they are. And no amount of insults, sarcasm, or name calling directed at me will change that.

Dogstar · 01-25-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) The "I support vomited Stapp" Steve. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. I was on the receiving end of that comment, but if that's what you allow here, so be it.

No offense, but that is hardly a disgusting insult. You should go to some other boards where the shit really flies, with all the nasty name-calling and what-not. Steve runs a pretty clean board here, in fact, it's the cleanest one I've ever seen.

Quote: As far as your site being talked about at the VH1 boards, after being treated the way I have here the past few days....those people are justified. It's pounded home that you run this site the way you see fit, and that you are proud of it. You have no one else to blame for that but yourself.
If you don't like the way the VH1 boards are moderated or operated....don't read there.

^^^^^Hellooooo, McFly???? Take your own advice!!! If you don't like it here, leave.

ctfan · 01-25-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RockGoddess) Mertie's post, the one you quoted, was about me. In quoting her, you implied that you were talking about me. If you're going to talk smack, at least get your target right.

I love the smell of backpeddling. Reminds me of victory.

Ah, but victory is only sweet if you win.

johellion · 01-25-2005, 08:59 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her.

Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION.

Ok since this thread is closed.....I need to know.....what is TRUE about me???

Dogstar · 01-25-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) Ah, but victory is only sweet if you win.

Victory = win, therefore, it's sweet.

01-25-2005, 08:12 PM	#18
RockGoddess USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 204 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: BTW if a thread is closed why open another one to continue the discussion and play the martyr card? Good point. Although it did give me an opportunity to respond. lol __________________ ~Alicia~

01-25-2005, 08:22 PM	#19
TeriB19 Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Saving Grace Posts: 12,439 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	The thread was NOT closed because of the so called 'Stapp bashers' or because of those that are 'Anti-AB'. It was closed because, as Steve said, after 9 pages, I got tired of reading the exact same thing in every post. If you think it 'smells of censorship' that's your opinion. MY opinion is, if a thread goes on that long and everyone is still spouting the same arguments, and nothing changes, it's pointless. If the discussion on the closed thread continues on THIS thread for 9 pages, with the same posts: Stapp is persecuted. No he's not, he's to blame. No he's not, he's totally innocent. No he's not, he's got issues. If that goes on for 9 pages, this one will be closed too. __________________ MK: We're never gonna have the Super Bowl of Scott Stapp vs. Myles Kennedy in a sing-off - it's ridiculous. SP: Actually, we are setting that up. MT: It was in your contract when you signed up with us.

01-25-2005, 08:37 PM	#22
RockGoddess USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 204 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) lol you do enjoy it somewhat.....hehe. Enjoy it? No. I don't appreciate having lies posted about me. The thread was closed before I chose to respond. Ctfan continuing on her rant simply gave me the opprotunity to reply. __________________ ~Alicia~

01-25-2005, 08:43 PM	#23
RockGoddess USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 204 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her. Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION. Mertie's post, the one you quoted, was about me. In quoting her, you implied that you were talking about me. If you're going to talk smack, at least get your target right. I love the smell of backpeddling. Reminds me of victory. __________________ ~Alicia~

01-25-2005, 08:56 PM	#27
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) The "I support vomited Stapp" Steve. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. I was on the receiving end of that comment, but if that's what you allow here, so be it. No offense, but that is hardly a disgusting insult. You should go to some other boards where the shit really flies, with all the nasty name-calling and what-not. Steve runs a pretty clean board here, in fact, it's the cleanest one I've ever seen. Quote: As far as your site being talked about at the VH1 boards, after being treated the way I have here the past few days....those people are justified. It's pounded home that you run this site the way you see fit, and that you are proud of it. You have no one else to blame for that but yourself. If you don't like the way the VH1 boards are moderated or operated....don't read there. ^^^^^Hellooooo, McFly???? Take your own advice!!! If you don't like it here, leave. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-25-2005, 07:31 PM	#16
Torn Daredevil USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 753 Joined: Apr 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) He wrote a song about it called "Bullets." I think everyone needs to give the lyrics a look again. He did? I thought Mark wrote that one...

01-25-2005, 08:36 PM	#21
ctfan USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 284 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by RockGoddess) Disgusting insults flung at you? You posted flat out lies about me. I have never once boasted that I was in posession of salacious gossip and that all you had to do was pm me for the details. You claim I have done it many times on this board? Prove it. You won't be able to because it's a lie. And you know it. edited for typos My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her. Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION.

01-25-2005, 08:46 PM	#24
ctfan USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 284 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Like Marcos said, it is pretty funny that all the problems recently are stemming from the same people. Kind of ironic, is it not? Well I must have glossed over these "disgusting insults" but irregardless of that, if you want to feel that the thread was closed because of you and your difference of opinions - if that makes you feel better - then so be it. However the thread was closed because it was going nowhere. 9 pages of comments and nothing was solved. And I'm not stupid either. You can badmouth me or my site all you want, but keep it at the vh1 boards. Please show me where "this happens so much." Link to the threads that have been closed, or describe the ones that were removed. I can only think of two that were done so in the last month other than obvious troll threads or spam threads. (And I looked it up. In case you didn't know, vBulletin logs every moderator action. Only 2.) But since you know more than I do, enlighten me. The "I support vomited Stapp" Steve. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. I was on the receiving end of that comment, but if that's what you allow here, so be it. As far as your site being talked about at the VH1 boards, after being treated the way I have here the past few days....those people are justified. It's pounded home that you run this site the way you see fit, and that you are proud of it. You have no one else to blame for that but yourself. If you don't like the way the VH1 boards are moderated or operated....don't read there.

01-25-2005, 08:47 PM	#25
ctfan USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 284 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Well, this is pretty much the reason I stopped posting in that thread around the 4th page. If you don't agree with the majority, be prepared to have your opinions challenged. And bashed on occasion. And it seems kinda pointless to defend your views. Everybody's entitled to their opinion, unfortunately not everyone can accept that.(that everyone has a right to their opinion) I don't think I'm one of those "3 people" who only post to bash Alter Bridge. I'm a big AB fan, but for once I found myself arguing in defense of Stapp, in a sense. I don't think I bashed AB at all in my posts. I really only said that I wished they'd stop bashing Stapp. That's what I, personally, viewed it as. They said practically the same thing, interview after interview, about Stapp although they worded it more and more negatively each time. I'm just ready to move on and when I read an AB interview, I'd like to see them talking about the future(Alter Bridge) and not the past.(Creed/Stapp) I realize that the media is most to blame that they are still talking about Stapp/Creed, but I also realize that they could say "hey, we've talked about Creed/Stapp enough, let's talk about something else, something involving our current band." That's really been my whole point. I'm not bashing AB, don't take it like that. I'm done with these threads because, again, it seems pointless to continually defend my opinion when those who disagree will never agree with my opinion on this. Titan, my apologies for bringing you in on all this. It wasn't my intention.

01-25-2005, 08:54 PM	#26
ctfan USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 284 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	With the exception of a couple of other people in this thread, the rest of you can save your breath and time defending yourselves, your comments, and your actions to me. My opinions will remain as they are. And no amount of insults, sarcasm, or name calling directed at me will change that.

01-25-2005, 08:59 PM	#29
johellion USER INFO » Status: Misconception Posts: 125 Joined: Dec 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) My comments to oneomerta where about johellion, not YOU rockgoddess. Get over yourself. I quoted what she posted so that she would know that my reply was directed to her. Everything in my reply is TRUE about JOHELLION. Ok since this thread is closed.....I need to know.....what is TRUE about me???

01-25-2005, 09:01 PM	#30
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by ctfan) Ah, but victory is only sweet if you win. Victory = win, therefore, it's sweet. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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