Commercial success!? - Page 2

Higher_Desire · 01-13-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) First of all, you know that engineers can do wonders with technology to make your voice sound good on an album... so a voice isn't an issue. Stapp can sound good on an album. It's the live performance that I question.

Yeah, just look at Blink 182. Their albums sound awesome yet they suck live. Albums make Mark Hoppus sound a lot less monotone. (IMO)

H-D

Mulletman · 01-13-2005, 02:04 PM

Exactly, look at Blink. Proves that you can be completely devoid of all talent and still make it rich.

Unforgiven Fan · 01-13-2005, 02:17 PM

both will not be a big seller...probably make 1 to 3 albums and that is it...that is my prediction anyway....

titan9 · 01-13-2005, 02:19 PM

Like I've said, I think Stapp still has it. Maybe he's not the same vocalist as he was in Creed(based on the live stuff I've heard from him before he had all those vocal problems, he was an awesome vocalist live just like he was on the albums) but I still think he's good. I don't think that's the studios and their technology. I think it's Stapp. Now I do think it's the studios and their technology that make Ashlee Simpson's vocals on the albums acceptable, but that's a whole other story.

Higher_Desire · 01-13-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mulletman) Exactly, look at Blink. Proves that you can be completely devoid of all talent and still make it rich.

Which means there's still hope for me

lol.

H-D

Ana4Stapp · 01-22-2005, 09:21 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Like I've said, I think Stapp still has it. Maybe he's not the same vocalist as he was in Creed(based on the live stuff I've heard from him before he had all those vocal problems, he was an awesome vocalist live just like he was on the albums) but I still think he's good. I don't think that's the studios and their technology. I think it's Stapp. Now I do think it's the studios and their technology that make Ashlee Simpson's vocals on the albums acceptable, but that's a whole other story.

You're right: it's Stapp. He's good.

Torn Daredevil · 01-23-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) You're right: it's Stapp. He's good.

No, his voice sucks now. But no doubt it could be made to sound decent on an album. I just don't think his album is ever gonna come out...

PrtytilImPurple · 03-28-2005, 09:21 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Torn Daredevil) No, his voice sucks now. But no doubt it could be made to sound decent on an album. I just don't think his album is ever gonna come out...

Oh. I think it will. His album I mean.

tremonti4life04 · 03-29-2005, 12:36 AM

I honestly think that AB will make it further. I wouldnt exactly count stapp out yet, but most people who didnt like creed, didnt like them because of stapp. I think that alter bridge has yet to throw a song out there that will launch them, and i also believe that the song that would get them out there is One Day Remains, because its extremely catchy, and has an uplifting feel to it. Stapp might skyrocket tho, you never know, but i believe that Alter Bridge realllllly needs to get ODR out on the radio so that more people can experience the epic side of alter bridge. Its my opinion that ODR would put them that much further ahead of stapp if it came down to it.

titan9 · 03-29-2005, 09:58 AM

I dunno, but I still see Stapp having more commercial success, that is if he ever releases his solo album. I just think his music is going to be alot more pop radio friendly and, thus, will get more airplay than AB on those stations. Even if people hated Creed 'cause of Stapp, it doesn't really matter. Lots of people hate Britney Spears and Ashlee Simpson, yet they still get alot of airplay on pop radio. So, honestly, I don't see the hatred of Stapp/Creed being a problem for Stapp when it comes to pop radio airplay, which I think he'll get plenty of. But, on the other hand, I do see it being a problem on Rock stations. I can't see Stapp being successful on Rock stations, especially if his music is on the lighter side, which I expect it to be.(that isn't a bad thing, though)

PrtytilImPurple · 03-29-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I can't see Stapp being successful on Rock stations, especially if his music is on the lighter side, which I expect it to be.(that isn't a bad thing, though)

I don't really get why people are assuming it will be pop music. From what I have read Stapp is a big fan of classic rock. The record has a rock producer, and I've heard goneblind. They aren't a pop band. Sure Stapp's stuff will be more radio friendly, but that doesn't automatically translate into Pop music. Creed's stuff was radio friendly and it certainly wasn't Pop music. I actually think that some people are going to be very surprised. Especially those who are just waiting for the guy to fail miserably. I just don't think that's going to happen.

Ann Allusion · 03-29-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote: I don't really get why people are assuming it will be pop music.

Nor do I...but the key word here is ASSUMING...

Quote: From what I have read Stapp is a big fan of classic rock. The record has a rock producer, and I've heard goneblind. They aren't a pop band. Sure Stapp's stuff will be more radio friendly, but that doesn't automatically translate into Pop music. Creed's stuff was radio friendly and it certainly wasn't Pop music.

Exactly...

Quote: I actually think that some people are going to be very surprised. Especially those who are just waiting for the guy to fail miserably. I just don't think that's going to happen.

I'm thinking that "surprised" will just be a beginning...I believe that Stapp and Gone Blind are going to blow a lot of people's minds when the album is done. Good things worth waiting for...and my feeling is, this is going to be one of those "Good Things"...

titan9 · 03-30-2005, 01:18 PM

See, I never said I think it'll be "pop" music. What I said was that I think it'll be more "pop radio" friendly than whatever Alter Bridge puts out in the future. Never did I say that Stapp's music is going to be pop, or that he is going to be a pop singer. Lots of rock artists get pop radio airplay with their softer songs, you know, the ballads. It happened to Creed, it happened to Staind, it has happened to a lot of artists from the rock genre. I think Scott's music will be more ballad-ish than Alter Bridge's music, thus, I believe he'll be more successful on pop radio than on rock radio. Of course, Stapp could surprise us with no ballads and actually have a real hard sound to his music, perhaps even harder than AB's sound. Who knows. We haven't heard any of the music that will be on his solo album, so we don't know what kind of music he'll put out.

I'm really anxious to hear some of his solo album. I know it's going to be good.

PrtytilImPurple · 03-30-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Of course, Stapp could surprise us with no ballads and actually have a real hard sound to his music, perhaps even harder than AB's sound.

Damn...I hope not. I think Alter Bridge is okay but they aren't the future of rock music in my opinion. I don't have a pop station where I live. I listen to a classic rock station and a rock station. The rock station plays just about everything you can imagine. I have nothing against ballads. I've heard stuff by goneblind. Stapp is working with a rock band. As long as it isn't too heavy I actually don't care. You never know. Stapp could have written another song like Higher. You know something that would have that kind of effect. Wouldn't that be cool.

PrtytilImPurple · 03-30-2005, 09:25 PM

Sorry. Double post

View Poll Results: Which album will be most commercial succesful?
Alter Bridge - One Day Remains	22	57.89%
Scott Stapp - upcoming solo album	16	42.11%
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01-13-2005, 01:54 PM	#16
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) First of all, you know that engineers can do wonders with technology to make your voice sound good on an album... so a voice isn't an issue. Stapp can sound good on an album. It's the live performance that I question. Yeah, just look at Blink 182. Their albums sound awesome yet they suck live. Albums make Mark Hoppus sound a lot less monotone. (IMO) H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"

01-13-2005, 02:04 PM	#17
Mulletman Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Rising Sun Posts: 4,161 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Exactly, look at Blink. Proves that you can be completely devoid of all talent and still make it rich. __________________ Intellectial Giant (Social Outcast) Quote: (Originally Posted by JenRN) Maybe it's time for some Mullet magic! He can do his Hoffa thing again! Quote: (Originally Posted by Harvey) Women must adore you.

01-13-2005, 02:19 PM	#19
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Like I've said, I think Stapp still has it. Maybe he's not the same vocalist as he was in Creed(based on the live stuff I've heard from him before he had all those vocal problems, he was an awesome vocalist live just like he was on the albums) but I still think he's good. I don't think that's the studios and their technology. I think it's Stapp. Now I do think it's the studios and their technology that make Ashlee Simpson's vocals on the albums acceptable, but that's a whole other story. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

01-13-2005, 04:52 PM	#20
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mulletman) Exactly, look at Blink. Proves that you can be completely devoid of all talent and still make it rich. Which means there's still hope for me lol. H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"

01-23-2005, 03:46 PM	#22
Torn Daredevil USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 753 Joined: Apr 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) You're right: it's Stapp. He's good. No, his voice sucks now. But no doubt it could be made to sound decent on an album. I just don't think his album is ever gonna come out...

03-28-2005, 09:21 PM	#23
PrtytilImPurple USER INFO » Status: Unspoken Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Torn Daredevil) No, his voice sucks now. But no doubt it could be made to sound decent on an album. I just don't think his album is ever gonna come out... Oh. I think it will. His album I mean.

03-29-2005, 09:58 AM	#25
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	I dunno, but I still see Stapp having more commercial success, that is if he ever releases his solo album. I just think his music is going to be alot more pop radio friendly and, thus, will get more airplay than AB on those stations. Even if people hated Creed 'cause of Stapp, it doesn't really matter. Lots of people hate Britney Spears and Ashlee Simpson, yet they still get alot of airplay on pop radio. So, honestly, I don't see the hatred of Stapp/Creed being a problem for Stapp when it comes to pop radio airplay, which I think he'll get plenty of. But, on the other hand, I do see it being a problem on Rock stations. I can't see Stapp being successful on Rock stations, especially if his music is on the lighter side, which I expect it to be.(that isn't a bad thing, though) __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

03-29-2005, 09:56 PM	#26
PrtytilImPurple USER INFO » Status: Unspoken Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I can't see Stapp being successful on Rock stations, especially if his music is on the lighter side, which I expect it to be.(that isn't a bad thing, though) I don't really get why people are assuming it will be pop music. From what I have read Stapp is a big fan of classic rock. The record has a rock producer, and I've heard goneblind. They aren't a pop band. Sure Stapp's stuff will be more radio friendly, but that doesn't automatically translate into Pop music. Creed's stuff was radio friendly and it certainly wasn't Pop music. I actually think that some people are going to be very surprised. Especially those who are just waiting for the guy to fail miserably. I just don't think that's going to happen.

03-29-2005, 10:21 PM	#27
Ann Allusion USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 912 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: I don't really get why people are assuming it will be pop music. Nor do I...but the key word here is ASSUMING... Quote: From what I have read Stapp is a big fan of classic rock. The record has a rock producer, and I've heard goneblind. They aren't a pop band. Sure Stapp's stuff will be more radio friendly, but that doesn't automatically translate into Pop music. Creed's stuff was radio friendly and it certainly wasn't Pop music. Exactly... Quote: I actually think that some people are going to be very surprised. Especially those who are just waiting for the guy to fail miserably. I just don't think that's going to happen. I'm thinking that "surprised" will just be a beginning...I believe that Stapp and Gone Blind are going to blow a lot of people's minds when the album is done. Good things worth waiting for...and my feeling is, this is going to be one of those "Good Things"... __________________ In sleep he sang to me, in dreams he came That voice which calls to me and speaks my name And do I dream again, for now I find The phantom of the opera is there...inside my mind Christine/ Phantom Of The Opera Abondon thought and let the dream decend.... Point of No Return/Phantom Of The Opera You will forever remain the music And I…the song you sing Last edited by Ann Allusion : 03-29-2005 at 10:26 PM.

03-30-2005, 01:18 PM	#28
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	See, I never said I think it'll be "pop" music. What I said was that I think it'll be more "pop radio" friendly than whatever Alter Bridge puts out in the future. Never did I say that Stapp's music is going to be pop, or that he is going to be a pop singer. Lots of rock artists get pop radio airplay with their softer songs, you know, the ballads. It happened to Creed, it happened to Staind, it has happened to a lot of artists from the rock genre. I think Scott's music will be more ballad-ish than Alter Bridge's music, thus, I believe he'll be more successful on pop radio than on rock radio. Of course, Stapp could surprise us with no ballads and actually have a real hard sound to his music, perhaps even harder than AB's sound. Who knows. We haven't heard any of the music that will be on his solo album, so we don't know what kind of music he'll put out. I'm really anxious to hear some of his solo album. I know it's going to be good. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

03-30-2005, 09:23 PM	#29
PrtytilImPurple USER INFO » Status: Unspoken Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) Of course, Stapp could surprise us with no ballads and actually have a real hard sound to his music, perhaps even harder than AB's sound. Damn...I hope not. I think Alter Bridge is okay but they aren't the future of rock music in my opinion. I don't have a pop station where I live. I listen to a classic rock station and a rock station. The rock station plays just about everything you can imagine. I have nothing against ballads. I've heard stuff by goneblind. Stapp is working with a rock band. As long as it isn't too heavy I actually don't care. You never know. Stapp could have written another song like Higher. You know something that would have that kind of effect. Wouldn't that be cool.

03-30-2005, 09:25 PM	#30
PrtytilImPurple USER INFO » Status: Unspoken Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 2005 Currently: Offline	Sorry. Double post Last edited by PrtytilImPurple : 03-30-2005 at 09:27 PM. Reason: double post

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