Stapp will be playing Creed songs on tour!! - Page 16

Ana4Stapp · 10-09-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) 'Zactly. If he wrote the music as well as the lyrics for those songs, I may not have a problem with it. But he, as far as I know, only did lyrics and vocals for Creed, so I don't think it is right of him to perform Creed songs, especially when Mark and him supposedly had a hand-shake agreement.

Im my opinion EVEN if he had written the music and also the lyrics it doenst mean they were "his" songs, ya know? They were for Creed, he wrote them for Creed.When he was in Creed. Its the past.Now he has his solo carreer and he has to know how dealing with it or he wants to be forever 'Stapp -the guy from Creed'??? Hun?

titan9 · 10-09-2005, 10:45 PM

Yeah, you're right, even if he did do lyrics/music/vocals, I still may be offended by him doing those songs when he is a solo artist.

People have brought up how guys like Cornell and Weiland are doing songs on tour by their old bands. It doesn't bother me, because, to the best of my knowledge, they never agreed not to do those songs. Why I am so offended by Stapp doing Creed songs is that he and Mark had a hand-shake agreement and Stapp agreed with Mark NOT to perform Creed songs on his solo tour(s). Obviously, Mark has kept up his end of the deal, but Scott hasn't and is probably going to continue to break the deal on his solo tour. As an equal fan of both, that disappoints me.

uncertaindrumer · 10-09-2005, 10:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) LOL, I'm just trying to give him a break since he's new

. He hasn't really been obnoxious or anything.

Well he wasn't to me... he was to Tremonti4life though.

Ana4Stapp · 10-09-2005, 10:52 PM

Yeah Titan...waht bothers me its Stapp seems to forgot it, cuz one year ago (I think) he performed several times on radio tour not only Relearn Love (of course to promote it) but also Higher and WAWO...and considering WAWO was for his son, answer me wahts the meaning of singing "Higher" after Creed's end?????

ryen · 10-09-2005, 11:56 PM

i wasnt talking about u dogstar i well say ab is a good band there music dose sound a lote like creed. but i just thank scott was the iceing on the cake and most lead singers are. dogstar knows why im suck a scott stapp fan and if iny one els wants to really know why just ask.

Dogstar · 10-10-2005, 12:15 AM

Ok, was just confused since you quoted me, LOL

Creed7352 · 10-10-2005, 03:00 AM

alter bridge actually DID donate money to the hurricane relief...just about $30,000...did you mix that up and think it was stapp? i haven't heard about stapp giving any money to the relief fund. alter bridge did a concert recently down in florida and all the money made went to the relief effort.

ryen · 10-10-2005, 06:41 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) alter bridge actually DID donate money to the hurricane relief...just about $30,000...did you mix that up and think it was stapp? i haven't heard about stapp giving any money to the relief fund. alter bridge did a concert recently down in florida and all the money made went to the relief effort.

i might have i dont know man my life is so masted up right now im just losing my mind. and im sorry im taking it out on u all ab is a cool band and i just miss the hell out of creed.

The Lithium · 10-10-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) Im my opinion EVEN if he had written the music and also the lyrics it doenst mean they were "his" songs, ya know? They were for Creed, he wrote them for Creed.When he was in Creed. Its the past.Now he has his solo carreer and he has to know how dealing with it or he wants to be forever 'Stapp -the guy from Creed'??? Hun?

Yeah, I agree... I see it as a lack of creativity, self-confidence and pretty much just a caraoke show. Stapp, Brian, Mark or Flip should never ever play a Creed tune again, no matter what band they're in, unless they're together again. (And we all know that's not gonna happen). They are Creed songs, and that's it! Creed - not something else.

jmhonline · 10-10-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, I agree... I see it as a lack of creativity, self-confidence ....

So you must feel the same for AB then. AB is trying to be like creed to get on radio.

The Lithium · 10-10-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) So you must feel the same for AB then. AB is trying to be like creed to get on radio.

What? ...good one...

Mark wrote all songs for Creed and have written almost all of ABs. (Myles co-wrote 5 of them). Did the thought that maybe it's because Mark is the songwriter for both bands is the reason why you might think AB sounds like Creed ever cross your mind? (And AB so doesn't sound a lot like Creed).

I don't mind if Stapp sounds like Creed, what I said is that I think it would be "A lack of creativity, self-confidence and pretty much just a caraoke show" - If Scott would play Creed songs on tour. And don't give me some crazy shit that ABs cover songs sucks and so on! I like 'em!

jmhonline · 10-10-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) What? ...good one...

Mark wrote all songs for Creed and have written almost all of ABs. (Myles co-wrote 5 of them). Did the thought that maybe it's because Mark is the songwriter for both bands is the reason why you might think AB sounds like Creed ever cross your mind? (And AB so doesn't sound a lot like Creed).

I don't think that. they don't have the voice or many of the lyrics of creed. That was from Mark himself.

The Lithium · 10-10-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) I don't think that. they don't have the voice or many of the lyrics of creed. That was from Mark himself.

Okay so good then... They don't sound like Creed? (I told you they didn't, but what the hell...) So correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been our conversation now:

Me - It sucks that Stapp will play Creed songs on tour, I think it's a lack of creativity.
You - So you must think the same about AB since they try to sound like Creed on the radio. (Which by the way had nothing to do with what I said)
Me - Well, I really don't think they do, but Mark wrote all the music for both Creed and AB and that might be the reason why you think they sound a like.
You - No, I don't think that and Mark himself said they don't. (Which means you, all of a sudden, just changed your opinion totally)

So are you trying to start a fight, do you have problems understanding english or are you just plain stupid?

Dogstar · 10-10-2005, 11:01 AM

Hey, Lith, let's go easy on the name-calling, k? Thanks.

The Lithium · 10-10-2005, 11:19 AM

Yeah okay... Sorry... Sometimes I do go too far...

10-09-2005, 10:45 PM	#227
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Yeah, you're right, even if he did do lyrics/music/vocals, I still may be offended by him doing those songs when he is a solo artist. People have brought up how guys like Cornell and Weiland are doing songs on tour by their old bands. It doesn't bother me, because, to the best of my knowledge, they never agreed not to do those songs. Why I am so offended by Stapp doing Creed songs is that he and Mark had a hand-shake agreement and Stapp agreed with Mark NOT to perform Creed songs on his solo tour(s). Obviously, Mark has kept up his end of the deal, but Scott hasn't and is probably going to continue to break the deal on his solo tour. As an equal fan of both, that disappoints me. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

10-09-2005, 10:46 PM	#228
uncertaindrumer USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) LOL, I'm just trying to give him a break since he's new . He hasn't really been obnoxious or anything. Well he wasn't to me... he was to Tremonti4life though. __________________ Titans baby, Titans.

10-10-2005, 12:15 AM	#231
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Ok, was just confused since you quoted me, LOL __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

10-10-2005, 09:32 AM	#235
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, I agree... I see it as a lack of creativity, self-confidence .... So you must feel the same for AB then. AB is trying to be like creed to get on radio. __________________ Oh great! It's Van Halen all over again!

10-10-2005, 10:20 AM	#237
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) What? ...good one... Mark wrote all songs for Creed and have written almost all of ABs. (Myles co-wrote 5 of them). Did the thought that maybe it's because Mark is the songwriter for both bands is the reason why you might think AB sounds like Creed ever cross your mind? (And AB so doesn't sound a lot like Creed). I don't think that. they don't have the voice or many of the lyrics of creed. That was from Mark himself. __________________ Oh great! It's Van Halen all over again!

10-09-2005, 11:56 PM	#230
ryen USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 20 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	i wasnt talking about u dogstar i well say ab is a good band there music dose sound a lote like creed. but i just thank scott was the iceing on the cake and most lead singers are. dogstar knows why im suck a scott stapp fan and if iny one els wants to really know why just ask.

10-10-2005, 03:00 AM	#232
Creed7352 USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 512 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	alter bridge actually DID donate money to the hurricane relief...just about $30,000...did you mix that up and think it was stapp? i haven't heard about stapp giving any money to the relief fund. alter bridge did a concert recently down in florida and all the money made went to the relief effort.

10-10-2005, 06:41 AM	#233
ryen USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 20 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) alter bridge actually DID donate money to the hurricane relief...just about $30,000...did you mix that up and think it was stapp? i haven't heard about stapp giving any money to the relief fund. alter bridge did a concert recently down in florida and all the money made went to the relief effort. i might have i dont know man my life is so masted up right now im just losing my mind. and im sorry im taking it out on u all ab is a cool band and i just miss the hell out of creed.

10-10-2005, 11:01 AM	#239
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Hey, Lith, let's go easy on the name-calling, k? Thanks. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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