Is Hugo Chavez Crazy?

[Ana4Stapp]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Danielabiag)

Hello, I apologize for my eventual mistakes. I'm from Argentine and I'd like to make some comments, cause I disagree with this arguments (you US people have the information all distorted by your media).
It´s true nowadays Venezuela is poor, compared with more developed countries, but you should know it´s not Chavez government consequence.
During 1989-1998 period, the prices grown more than 50%, while during first Chavez period it only did the half of this. Chavez achieved to contain the inflation. The public expenditure in health highly exceeds now what it used to be in previous governments. He also increased the money dedicated to education, wich allowed more than 1,5 million children -and same number of adults- to be taken out of illiteracy. He also increaded the number of peolple who now can enjoy -for the first time- access to drinkable water.
This are only some of a lot of things Chavez did for Venezuela.
Regarding to Cuba, US BLOCKED country (and that´s the main reason why this island is so poor), today it has health an life quality systems BETTER to a lot of developed countries, wich have more developed technology and resourses. Just to give an example, the VIH treatment is TOTALLY FREE.



Aren´t you forgetting the human rights violations that take place everyday in many countries, by the hand of US troops? After 11-S, US have violated the most fundamental international laws in its treatment to detainees just because of "security" matters. THOUSANDS of civilians have been killed and hundreds have been detained with no other reason but their appeareance, and are being held in Guantanamo, Bagram, Kandahar and dozens of hiden jails around the world, with no legal procedures.



You people are so brain-washed... Be sure other countries are against (not "hate") US government because of its violence and no-matter-what-power-thirst. And be shure the aid to the "third world" DOES NOT COME FROM YOUR TAXES, but it DOES COME from the resources YOUR government take by force -let´s call it wars or "democratic transition", as they like to name it- from these countries. Make a little journey through your country history and get informed my friend.
To be patriotic is not to stand behind your great land no matter what, IT IS to stand for your principles and fight against tyranny, disguised of false demochracy.



Are you joking?? Don´t forget II World War is sadly famous not only because of humanity suffering, but because it benefited two superpowers: URSS and United States. That´s the only reason US got involved. US Defense incorporated nazi experts, who worked in weapons of mass destruction proyects. US didn´t "stop nazis", it contributed to stop Germany´s development in weapons of mass destruction and to take its experts out of the country to use them for its pourposes. Since then, this nazis have been working in defense operations in Fort Bragg, in NASA, in the military-industrial sector and in CIA...

Hey first welcome here! Second, its too cool to see someone else from South America ...actually Im from Brazil !!!

And about ur posts I can see lotsssss of very good points about US foreign policy!!! Congratulations for your post (except the Hugo Chavez part which Ill coment my reasons to disagree later )...its at least very interesting to see that non americans members here have the same interpretation about US foreign policy while the americans have the oposite...

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Are you joking?? Don´t forget II World War is sadly famous not only because of humanity suffering, but because it benefited two superpowers: URSS and United States. That´s the only reason US got involved. US Defense incorporated nazi experts, who worked in weapons of mass destruction proyects. US didn´t "stop nazis", it contributed to stop Germany´s development in weapons of mass destruction and to take its experts out of the country to use them for its pourposes. Since then, this nazis have been working in defense operations in Fort Bragg, in NASA, in the military-industrial sector and in CIA...

Wow. This is the biggest load of crap I have heard in a long time. The U.S. got into WWII because of PEARL HARBOR, not because of the Nazis. Eventually, sure, we went over to Europe, but that was almost three years later.

And we didn't want their nuclear weapons experts! Ours were better, as evidenced by the fact that ours successfully created the atomic bomb, and German scientists were not even close.

As for your completely unparalleled absurdity regarding "Nazi" scientists working all over the place in hte U.S., there is a big difference between "German" and "Nazi". First off, many Germans were forced to join or pretend to join the Nazi party out of fear for their lives. Second, many who were in the Nazi party did not even realize what exactly their party did. Finally, many resisted and weren't in the party at all.

Also, besides the fact that I find it unbelievable that anyone would take your post full of erroneous fantasies seriously, I really am glad, for all of your sakes, that the U.S. is NOTHING like what you guys describe it as. If we were the evil imperalist nation you guys pretended we were, the U.S. would freaking rule the world.

If the U.S. had not stopped Hitler, no one would have. Grow up and learn some history.

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(you US people have the information all distorted by your media

Lol, of course

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Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp)

Hey first welcome here! Second, its too cool to see someone else from South America ...actually Im from Brazil !!!

And about ur posts I can see lotsssss of very good points about US foreign policy!!! Congratulations for your post (except the Hugo Chavez part which Ill coment my reasons to disagree later )...its at least very interesting to see that non americans members here have the same interpretation about US foreign policy while the americans have the oposite...

Yeah, I agree. You guys come up with moronic, non-factual nonsense, and we tell it the way it is.

I am perfectly willing to not only agree but strongly agree that the U.S. has been recently acting terribly with regard to the Middle East. The Iraq war was a heinous error and continues to be extremely problematic. But this ridiculous atittude that the U.S. is imperialistic is laughable at best.

There also seems to be a strange aversion to admitting the U.S. *might* act in its own interests. Of course it will often act in its own interests. That is what countries do. Thankfully, the U.S. also cares about other nations. If it did not, the world would be quite a bit different.

No nation has had the power of the U.S. since Rome, and the U.S. is the first major superpower in history to not use its incredible influence to conquer. Thank goodness for all the non-U.S. citizens on here.

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Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS)

OK, let's agree that stupidity is a widespread disease.

And people keep talking about AIDS...

I say we can't fix the flu and AIDS until we fix the real problem

[J-Man]

For what it's worth, I'm going to be honest and say that I'm aware of what is going on, but I'm not going to act as if though I know it all. In my own personal opinion I think several leaders of every county have made mistakes. For those of you who are not US citizens, remember that the United States is made up of every single nationality in the entire world. To point us out and say that we are "uncharacteristic" you are speaking about every one who represents the US - including your own race who reside here. Everyone has a voice in the US. We are a country where we have the freedom of speech, the freedom of choice and the freedom to live how we please. Yes we do things differently, because that is our own individual choice. We fight amongst ourselves (isn't that right Chase and Uncertain? LOL) because we have our own opinions and are not dictated to. That is what is great about this country. We have the freedom to express ourselves without being stoned, mocked, killed, etc. Take this board for example - what does it do for you? It gives you the choice to voice your opinion and to do so openly and freely and how does that feel? It feels f'ing great!!! I'm a US citizen and I can only speak from experience. I will not judge you because I don't know what it is like to walk in your shoes. So please do not judge us Americans as a whole for something you may not agree on. Keep in mind that we too do not always agree with what our leaders want us to believe. And what is great about this country is that we can view our points and disagree w/ our leaders and have the power to vote them out.

Countries that have leaders that dictate the lives of others is sad and someone mentioned here that Americans are brainwashed, let me tell you that some are simple minded and will not bother to do the research, but there are those who do bother and will educate themselves on matters that move them. Unfortunately in several other countries, they are only fed certain information because their leaders truly want to control them. Some countries will not allow certain music to be played, certain movies to be shown, only allow access to certain internet sites, books, religion, views on sex, etc. To say that we are ignorant is an ignorant statement in itself. Don't try to dictate, but do try to educate yourselves and trust yourself to the point where you can express what you believe, but keep in mind that not everyone will agree with you. That is what makes us individuals. America is about being who you are without being condemed, unless of course it threatens the lives of others. We do care about life. We are compassionate people so much so that we give so much of ourselves to assist those who cannot help themselves, yet we are judged for it. We are a melting pot of each and every one of you.