Pentagon video

[metalchris25]

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

Thoughts?

[Steve]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

[eusebioCBR]

Quote: (Originally Posted by metalchris25)

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

Thoughts?

I don't buy it, do you?

[metalchris25]

No. The only part that makes any sense is the part about the plane itself. Where did it go?

[bilal]

to be honest....till now.... i dont buy anything related to 9-11........ i am not sure of the source of the clip.... but if this is true...atlest the missing plane part....then what did hit the pentagon...it was hit for sure... a missle?......how?...... this may lead us to further connect the tragedy of the fourth plane that was crashed in a field but latter claimed to have been shot down by a missle too........but i dont see truth coming out of anything....i dont see truth coming of any media since 9-11......

[metalchris25]

You really can't believe much in the media concerning 9/11. Certainly not as an American. If there was some sort of a conspiracy, we wouldn't find out till about 2050.

[Chase]

These terrorists responsible for the horrors of 9/11 somewhat lucked out. As it turns out... they have an unintentional fan club who refuses to believe that they were responsible... and in turn, hashes out unfounded conspiracy theories. Imagine... committing an act of that magnitude and having people actually blame the government of the country in which you were attacking? Must be nice to be a terrorist and have that sort of backing.

[Ana4Stapp]

Wow!!! Chase is back!!!!!
lol

And Im afraid to say it....but I agree (finally) with his comments....lol... I cant believe in this theory ...its absurd ...well ..even though theres an interesting point to consider about the plane....

[bilal]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

These terrorists responsible for the horrors of 9/11 somewhat lucked out. As it turns out... they have an unintentional fan club who refuses to believe that they were responsible... and in turn, hashes out unfounded conspiracy theories. Imagine... committing an act of that magnitude and having people actually blame the government of the country in which you were attacking? Must be nice to be a terrorist and have that sort of backing.

(i am not an american ..so may be i should;nt be blaming anyone here....but just expressing my point of view)


i dont think those who did it have any fan base anywhere..........i dont think American Government has done anything concluding in response to 9-11, what they did was to attach Afghanistan......attack afghanistan......i still findl it hard to believe that Osama and his dumb F**kers can actaully plan a speilberg style attck so perfectly executed.........i am sure these conspiracies are just some little babies ...and some of em might need some time to grow and become a killing bastard.......i know..i know....no one knows the exact truth....atleast ...i dont believe it.......and what difference will it make if the truth is exposed.....what difference wiill it make now.!....

[Chase]

Quote: (Originally Posted by bilal)

(i am not an american ..so may be i should;nt be blaming anyone here....but just expressing my point of view)


i dont think those who did it have any fan base anywhere..........i dont think American Government has done anything concluding in response to 9-11, what they did was to attach Afghanistan......attack afghanistan......i still findl it hard to believe that Osama and his dumb F**kers can actaully plan a speilberg style attck so perfectly executed.........i am sure these conspiracies are just some little babies ...and some of em might need some time to grow and become a killing bastard.......i know..i know....no one knows the exact truth....atleast ...i dont believe it.......and what difference will it make if the truth is exposed.....what difference wiill it make now.!....

Even idiots get lucky sometimes. I use the term "idiot" loosely. Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda had some intelligence because they were able to exploit our weaknesses at the time. The reason why he's an idiot, however, is because he picked the wrong country to fuck with.

[bilal]

^ yup ...your right.... he was an idiot...cause he messed with an idiotic administration ( with all due respect to americans).......cause idiots are the worst to mess with.....cause they dont really know what they are doing

[Chase]

Quote: (Originally Posted by bilal)

^ yup ...your right.... he was an idiot...cause he messed with an idiotic administration ( with all due respect to americans).......cause idiots are the worst to mess with.....cause they dont really know what they are doing

"Idiotic administration?" This coming from a guy who lives in the military dictatorship of Pakistan? Give me a break. Pervez Musharraf won't do a damn thing about the Al Qaeda leaders who are hiding in the mountains of Pakistan. How is Bush an idiot?

[bilal]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

"Idiotic administration?" This coming from a guy who lives in the military dictatorship of Pakistan? Give me a break. Pervez Musharraf won't do a damn thing about the Al Qaeda leaders who are hiding in the mountains of Pakistan. How is Bush an idiot?

oh....so you know al-qaeda leaders are hiding in the mountains of PAkistan....just like when bush said that OSama was hiding in AFghanistan.....and u attacked it.....chase bro...do u know how many lives Paksitan activists and protestors losed when your so-called war on terror was running in Afghanistan......all ur planes used our air space......our seaports were used by your ships for supplies.....our air bases near the upper side of Afghanistan was used for you air strikes.......many rescue operation were launced from our land.....your bombs fell mistakenlly in our side of the boarders...and countless Pakistani ..innocent...lost their lives..... that to me is idiotic...... your president, before the start of war....said to Pakistani people in general to either be with US or we will be shifted to preshistoric times....those are the words of MR.Bush...addressed to my nation..... and if it wasnt for this millitary dictatorship of Gen PErvaiz, your war on terror would'nt be that easy for you.............and till recent times....any one capttured here is handed over to your country.....so its very lame of you to blame my country for it........ world nows what the outcome of attacks on aFghanistan is....and I KNOW how many of us died for the cause not of our own........I see refugess and i know what fleeing refugees have done to my country.....

[Chase]

Quote: (Originally Posted by bilal)

oh....so you know al-qaeda leaders are hiding in the mountains of PAkistan....just like when bush said that OSama was hiding in AFghanistan.....and u attacked it.....chase bro...do u know how many lives Paksitan activists and protestors losed when your so-called war on terror was running in Afghanistan......all ur planes used our air space......our seaports were used by your ships for supplies.....our air bases near the upper side of Afghanistan was used for you air strikes.......many rescue operation were launced from our land.....your bombs fell mistakenlly in our side of the boarders...and countless Pakistani ..innocent...lost their lives..... that to me is idiotic...... your president, before the start of war....said to Pakistani people in general to either be with US or we will be shifted to preshistoric times....those are the words of MR.Bush...addressed to my nation..... and if it wasnt for this millitary dictatorship of Gen PErvaiz, your war on terror would'nt be that easy for you.............and till recent times....any one capttured here is handed over to your country.....so its very lame of you to blame my country for it........ world nows what the outcome of attacks on aFghanistan is....and I KNOW how many of us died for the cause not of our own........I see refugess and i know what fleeing refugees have done to my country.....

You called my country idiotic for defending itself after it was directly attacked by Islamic extremists... for no apparent reason. I'll tell you what idiocy is. Idiocy is threatening war with India over a ridiculous patch of mountainous terrain (Kashmir). Idiocy is allowing a totalitarian general to tell you how to run YOUR country. That, my friend, is idiocy. There are thousands of Pakistanis living in the United States because of that reason. To escape that way of life.

It's "very lame" of you to sit there and demonize my nation for protecting itself and trying to destroy an ideology that refuses to coexist peacefully with people of different faiths. The United States has been greatful for the initial support coming from Pakistan. But you know what? I remember seeing Pakistanis rioting in the streets chanting anti-American, anti-European, anti-Christian, and anti-Semitic things after a small Danish newspaper published a cheesey cartoon of the prohpet Mohammed. What the hell does the United States have to do with that? Why are Lebanese people chanting anti-American things when we have nothing to do with the Israel-Hezbollah war?

My country is shedding blood, sweat, and tears to make your region a better place. We're sacrificing our lives to rid the region of aggressive regimes. I'm sure countless numbers of Lebanese people called the United States idiotic. But what cracks me up is that they're now pissed off at us for not jumping to their rescue. When, in fact, we're working diligently with the international community to get a cease fire put into action. I can guarantee you, if tomorrow, a disaster struck your country... Americans would be there pulling Pakistanis out of the rubble.

America is a country that was built by millions of once poor immigrants. Poor immigrants who have shed their blood for millions of other people around the world. I would at least appreciate some people to actually recognize that for once.

Oh, and the outcome of the attacks in Afghanistan? Yeah, we definitely know the outcome. Women can now actually get an education, the Taliban isn't funding Al Qaeda and repressing the citizens of Afghanistan. My fucking best friend came so close to death trying to protect Afghans from what's left of the Taliban... so you remember that young, American men, of all races and faiths, are dying for a cause that'll keep the WORLD safer.

[bilal]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

You called my country idiotic for defending itself after it was directly attacked by Islamic extremists... for no apparent reason.

even before your country suffered that terrrible tragedy....your defence departement had suspected these attacks....so saying that there was no apparent reason...is totlally wrong my firend....there were many reasons.....though no reason at all in the whole world can justify a cRIMe like 9/11....please dont get that wrong...nothing in the universe might justify a crime as shame full and ugly as 9/11...may responsible for that suffer in hell and life before......i hope i have made my self clear....may the 9/11 culprits get fu**ed by slutty she-mails every night, for the rest of theri misreable life......i hope i am clear at my point........BUT...nothing in the world can justify a REACTION like attackin AFGHANISTAN......killing over 50,000 innocent people just becuase they were Afghanis....mostly women and children..........and if this is'nt Idioticity.........no matter if you labbel it self defence....do countless propaganda calling it libration for people of Afghanistan (sleeping that kind feeling for Afghanis for over decades.....)......what ever you paint it beautifullly ......its the most IDIOTIC blunder of times......cause killing of helpless people like AFghanis....poor and sick people...... for which world even did'nt showed any sympathy.......and what wast hte motive......capturing Osama bin laden?......could have figured out where he was......could have first identified a possible place...using intelligence and all.......but .....here comes the mother of all idioticity......to please ur nation that Mr.bush is in control.....in the urgency to show that revenge is taken....he gave in to the pressure......he couldnt wait to figure all that out...so he went on with the war....and dropped dasiy cutters.......if this isnt idioticity.........kindly find a mental institution for me.... why is collateral loss any different than terrorism....USA asked a big price from ohter people violating theri freeedom..... when i was a kid... my teacher tought us about every one having a circle around em....and it was called circle of freedom...and no one else is supposed to mess with others circle of freedom.... is USA really that innocent as much as you are trying to prove?.....i appreciate your patriotism.....but this beautiful feeling should'nt be turned into a poison.....and thats the biggest cancer of war.....a veitnam'e to me was as much patriotic as an American.....but both were shooting each other....

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

I'll tell you what idiocy is. Idiocy is threatening war with India over a ridiculous patch of mountainous terrain (Kashmir). Idiocy is allowing a totalitarian general to tell you how to run YOUR country. That, my friend, is idiocy. There are thousands of Pakistanis living in the United States because of that reason. To escape that way of life.

ridiculus patch of land??....... ........let me just say it again cause my mind aint processing it correctly at the moment......ridiculus patch of land??........i ll try to breif you with the history of what happened 50 years ago...which you seemed to be utterly unaware of ........and just saying what is presented to you by what i dont know...... if i go onn with the history of Kashimir ....this post might get endles..... but i will leave you with just one question for you to figure out....... why isnt there any international medai in Kashmir???......who has blocked access of any CNN or BCC kinda networks in Kashmir?...... you only get India bichin about Pakistan or Vice versa....but no info on What is going onn in Kashmr??...why??.......no UN or redcross????......how many muslims are being killed/ assasinated in kashmir every day??? ...............how many indian soldiers are their in the occupied Kashmir and theri ratio with the population of people living their?.....who are they gaurding?.....or occpying???......how many wemon have been raped, men tortured and killed??......when you get answere for these........ do come back and hit me on this topic........

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

It's "very lame" of you to sit there and demonize my nation for protecting itself and trying to destroy an ideology that refuses to coexist peacefully with people of different faiths.

what ideology are you refering here.......you just said it very vague......Islam?...... i hate to say it again and again....but ...alright ...one more time..... when Islam was spread from the time it was first spoken about....alll of middle east was conqured by muslims in a matter of less than century......all of jeruslem......all the living jews of that time.......if it was ISLAM idology get rid of all the other faiths.......you might have had a channel called "national [JEW]graphic".....but this really isnt the case.....and i am going a bit oftopic here....but you know what....i trust that only JEws, just like in 1982, are gona stop the lebnan war this time too.....it was the protest of Jews in Israel that led to the stop of 1982 war ...here is something of importance that led to the protest within Israel....

Sabra and Shatila massacre .....in sep 1982 that attacked the Palestinian refugee camps.......it is estimated that upto 3500 palestinian refugess where massacred by the israeli invadors source " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

areil shron is still accused of leding such attack and for the masacres it commited.......still no justice

And its the only hope on my side too...that those remarkable people are gona stand up again....soon you will see...we all will see....t

was 9/11 an attack of Religions?....was it an attack on Christianity? .... so if that is true, which i disagree, then attacks on AFghanistan, iraq, palestine is a crusade?....... anohter holy war??......... i dont find any sence in what your saying......

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase)

The United States has been greatful for the initial support coming from Pakistan. But you know what? I remember seeing Pakistanis rioting in the streets chanting anti-American, anti-European, anti-Christian, and anti-Semitic things after a small Danish newspaper published a cheesey cartoon of the prohpet Mohammed. What the hell does the United States have to do with that? Why are Lebanese people chanting anti-American things when we have nothing to do with the Israel-Hezbollah war?

ahh...chase....this para of yours is probably what you yourself need to read again.....you connected 9/11 with danish and with lebnese and made a remarkable comment in the end......

what do u expect from Pakistan?....our military dictator...which u said idiotic.....let you use all the facilities you needed...inspite of worst demonstrations in my country.....why?.... because that saine guy knew that he can control the FREEDOM of his countrymen...but he percieved correctly what USA would do to PAkistan if that military dictator chosees to stay with his people's opinion......we were not attacked by USA but would have if considereed the will of my people.....??.... that my freind is the JUSTICE your contry do with COuntries like my homeland PAKISTAN..... still if you think we dont have the right to protest...ask the same old still in power military man...and he might do something about it too......my police killed my country protestors...my army guys lost their lives gaurding the boarder with Afghanistan....adn thats a huge boarder ....all mountaneous.........my people suffured.....and we all paid price.. I did....business were closed for days here....??..... many dalily wage poor people slept without food here....THAT MY friend is JUSTICE what your Adminstration has done to us.....atleast praise that military dictator for Christ sake ........should i go on to explain why we were offended on the Cartoons....start a new thread and i will join...here..it is oftopic....

you said USA has nothing do with the current lebnese problem ..... realy....Israel.....does tthat rings any bell.....who is supposed to protect Israel even after what it has done over the years....is Israel is justified on every thing it do...or is it really the guardian hand of USA that has really unleased it to do the crimes.......do u really believe if it wasnt for USA, any contry doing things like Israel has done would have stayed any chance of existance......who has kept UN out so far, who has kept EU out sofar?....c'mon chase...and your saying that USA has nothing to do LEbneses crisis......this coming from a student of politics is totally bizare.....


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