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Old 12-11-2002, 09:59 PM   #1
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A final Declaration... please read

To start off with.. i'd like to say if you're offended.. i'm sorry. But, here goes.

I shall begin by quoting a document many of you hold very dear, the declaration of independance.

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Quote: WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


Think about it. How is your controller so different from king george? he mistreats you, he threatens, he even punishes... who gave him the right to do so? it's your responsibility to say enough is enough, and that his un-ending power over you is unacceptable.

Steve's got you under control. he's kicked people off his board for having opinions. He's followed and harassed the aforementioned banned people at other boards. he has yet to allow one different opinion.. he claims that, because we differ in opinion from the rest of you, that we are wrong, and that we encroach on your rights. If this is acceptable to you, than by all means, stay. But otherwise, you'll see, that this is wrong. all wrong.

Creedfaner only posted what he did to prove a point. not to screw with you.. but to open your minds. An open mind is much better than a closed one... but he did it using a subject that you all hold close.. religion. why? because you hold it so close. And because you hold it so close, you refuse to question it, and weather or not it makes sense to you... which is the purpose of the song i quoted in my signature, Judith, by A Perfect Circle. This, however, is beside the point. Steve has repeatedly struck down at those with differing opinions. he is not tolerant of those different from him. Because he bases it on religion, which you all back him on, you're fine with it. What if it was based on anything else. Do you know what that is? discrimination. That's what it is. Who's famous for discrimination? fascits. That's who.

Now if you still want to think i'm all wrong, fine. I just ask that you open your minds, try new ideas, and question everything you can. Sure, you may come back thinking 'that's right' 99% of the time. but the other.. when you find something strange, peculiar, and wrong, you'll be the one who is right.

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Old 12-11-2002, 10:03 PM   #2
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this is b/c u were being rude to everyone and annoying...steve does not"push us around" as you say...hes a very good moderator
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:05 PM   #3
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just quit your pissing and moaning and go somewhere else!
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:06 PM   #4
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Read it with an open mind.. TRY to accept it.. and if you still don't, i'll be satisfied.. but don't write what i have to say off just because you don't agree with it.

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hmm so you're suggesting that one of the forums fights for its freedom? :P you're right, this isn't a democracy. it's a dictatorship. steve, the administrator, has every right to maintain the peace.
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I don't want to waste my time
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:10 PM   #7
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Quote: Originally posted by ode302
hmm so you're suggesting that one of the forums fights for its freedom? :P you're right, this isn't a democracy. it's a dictatorship. steve, the monarch, has every right to maintain the peace.


ditto

he pays his money to run the site, you don't, get over it.
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:10 PM   #8
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Than you, sir, are the true definition of ignorance.

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no wonder you have such a problem with religion. you can't stand the thought that someone has control over you.
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you shouldn't be using a computer anyway, YOU'RE AMISH
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:14 PM   #11
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haha did i miss something?
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not only Amish, he's invisible too, WOW
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:17 PM   #13
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Re: A final Declaration... please read

Quote: Originally posted by Amish Warlord


Think about it.  How is your controller so different from king george?  he mistreats you, he threatens, he even punishes... who gave him the right to do so?
He doesn't mistreat anyone. He doesn't threaten anyone. He doesn't have anyone under his control. He kicked people off the board not for having their own opinions, but for continually harassing those of us who differed from YOUR opinions

Quote: Creedfaner only posted what he did to prove a point.  not to screw with you.. but to open your minds

Thanks but I don't rely on high school punks to open my mind. Grown ups can think for themselves, and Creedfaner was upset because we didn't agree with HIS point of view, not the other way around.

Quote: weather

Are you talking about rain, snow, sleet? What? Because that's spelled wrong.


Quote: Steve has repeatedly struck down at those with differing opinions.  
No, Steve has struck down those that come on the board to purposely cause trouble. If this were the real world, we would have the police come to issue restraining orders for people who continually come around to verbally harass others. You were warned repeatedly to stop stirring up shit.




Quote: he is not tolerant of those different from him.  Because he bases it on religion

How do you figure? Because you started the thread you did in the Religion forum and were banned? You could have started it in the Music Matters forum for all anyone cared. Would he then be accused of hating you because you differed on musical opinions? Get real.

Get the fuck out of here and stay out. Take your final declaration and shove it up each others asses.
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:21 PM   #14
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Re: Re: A final Declaration... please read

Quote: Originally posted by TeriB19
He doesn't mistreat anyone. He doesn't threaten anyone. He doesn't have anyone under his control. He kicked people off the board not for having their own opinions, but for continually harassing those of us who differed from YOUR opinions

 
Thanks but I don't rely on high school punks to open my mind. Grown ups can think for themselves, and Creedfaner was upset because we didn't agree with HIS point of view, not the other way around.

 
Are you talking about rain, snow, sleet? What? Because that's spelled wrong.  


No, Steve has struck down those that come on the board to purposely cause trouble. If this were the real world, we would have the police come to issue restraining orders for people who continually come around to verbally harass others. You were warned repeatedly to stop stirring up shit.  




 
How do you figure? Because you started the thread you did in the Religion forum and were banned? You could have started it in the Music Matters forum for all anyone cared. Would he then be accused of hating you because you differed on musical opinions? Get real.

Get the fuck out of here and stay out. Take your final declaration and shove it up each others asses.


He mistreated Aaron.

We aren't high school punks. We're intelligent people who happen to have ideals different from yours, because we've taken the time and thought them through very clearly. I'm not some punk kid.. if it makes you feel better, i'm a 3.7 student, taking all honors courses.

sorry, i slipped. it was a long post and i was typing really fast.

Aaron wasn't purposley causing trouble.. he was purposley putting a different opinion in front of your face, because odds are, no-one else will. YOu need to see different ideas.. or how do you know you're wrong? see: 2112 by rush, farenheit 451, etc. etc.

Well, he kicked aaron out for having a different opinion and expressing it.. enough said.

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Old 12-11-2002, 10:25 PM   #15
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he booted u guys out b/c u were being rude to every comment on ehre and acting like an immature little fuck
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