Pearl Jam and Creed

CollectiveSoul · 11-15-2002, 03:26 PM

I think that Peral Jam and Creed should do some sort of thing on TV or radio or a duet on a CD where they ahve peace and where people can be quiet about allegations of Creed trying to be Pearl Jam

jango · 11-15-2002, 04:10 PM

Ha. No.

Would NEVER happen. Might as well not even fancy the thought. Cobain hated Pearl Jam... Pearl Jam hates Creed... Creed hates... I dunno, but it just won't ever happen. Get used to it.

Unforgiven Fan · 11-15-2002, 04:29 PM

I saw PJ last night on D. Letterman and ummm were is the connection that the media is saying is between Creed and PJ??

Dogstar · 11-15-2002, 04:31 PM

Zactly, Jango. Somebody on a Jerry Cantrell board was complaining that Pearl Jam didn't mention Layne Staley in the dedication part of the liner notes of Riot Act. All those Seattle bands were competing with each other, for crying out loud. They weren't exactly best buds.

Read JDM · 11-15-2002, 05:17 PM

Actually, wasn't Nirvana not even interested in that whole "Seattle scene" label that the media kept using, and because of the other bands who were grouped as such? I seem to remember that but I could be wrong. I wish Metallica, Guns N Roses and Faith No More went on tour again.

JenRN · 11-15-2002, 05:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Read JDM
<b>Actually, wasn't Nirvana not even interested in that whole "Seattle scene" label that the media kept using, and because of the other bands who were grouped as such? I seem to remember that but I could be wrong. I wish Metallica, Guns N Roses and Faith No More went on tour again. </b>

Did you go to that Metallica concert with Guns and Roses??? I did and boy what an experience!!!! A 8 hour extravaganza!!!! I saw things I could not believe and went home smelling like beer pot and maddog and did not have any of those things, just a diet coke!!!! I saw people jumping on top of out houses and people laying in the corners of the stadium!!!!! It sure was not like a Creed concert!!!!!

It was before James from Metallica got burned, i think the show right before that!

Read JDM · 11-15-2002, 05:28 PM

I didn't go to that concert, no, which is why I wish it happened again. Or let me rephrase that: I wish those bands' early 1990s incarnations could do a tour, as I'm not sure I'd enjoy modern Metallica nor GNR all that much.

jango · 11-15-2002, 06:26 PM

Yes indeed, Dogstar and JDM.

Nirvana, primarily Kurt, hated the Seattle connection, not because of the sound per se, but the constant associations with other bands such as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc. Cobain wrote in his diary that he'd like nothing better than to rid himself of Pearl Jam.

They weren't buddies.

Dogstar · 11-15-2002, 06:27 PM

Yes, Read, Cobain wanted to make his own mark on music and not be lumped in with them. It was a love-hate thing with the media and the record execs. In one breath he'd say he hated the media, MTV and the record execs, and in the next, he was worried about Nirvana's videos not being played enough and record sales.

flynn · 11-17-2002, 01:10 AM

kurt hated pearl jam in the beginning... partly because of their quick rise and partly because of kurt's friendship with the guys in mudhoney and how jeff and stone broke out of green river to form a more commerical band- mother love bone. kurt later- as did courtney- renig on all of their pearl jam bashing... and admitted to their being wrong about the guys. no on talks about that though... just to create more mysticism around the whole seattle scene.

kurt just had a big ego. he was a genius... but a genius with a HUGE ego.

also, pearl jam wrote a song for layne in tribute to his death. they chose not to put it on the album though... out of respect. may be used later though.

Dogstar · 11-17-2002, 01:12 AM

Yes, they did indeed patch things up.

Xterminator27 · 11-17-2002, 01:14 AM

I dont know where people get the creed is a pear jam copy.... Pear Jam's nowhere as good as creed

Dogstar · 11-17-2002, 01:17 AM

Um, I think as much as I love Creed, Pearl Jam is better, lyrically for sure. Eddie Vedder is an awesome songwriter. Both bands are in my top 10.

Xterminator27 · 11-17-2002, 01:26 AM

All depends on whos opinion your taking of course

Dogstar · 11-17-2002, 01:40 AM

Of course...that's just my opinion.

11-15-2002, 04:10 PM	#2
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Ha. No. Would NEVER happen. Might as well not even fancy the thought. Cobain hated Pearl Jam... Pearl Jam hates Creed... Creed hates... I dunno, but it just won't ever happen. Get used to it. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

11-15-2002, 04:31 PM	#4
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Zactly, Jango. Somebody on a Jerry Cantrell board was complaining that Pearl Jam didn't mention Layne Staley in the dedication part of the liner notes of Riot Act. All those Seattle bands were competing with each other, for crying out loud. They weren't exactly best buds. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-15-2002, 05:24 PM	#6
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Read JDM <b>Actually, wasn't Nirvana not even interested in that whole "Seattle scene" label that the media kept using, and because of the other bands who were grouped as such? I seem to remember that but I could be wrong. I wish Metallica, Guns N Roses and Faith No More went on tour again. </b> Did you go to that Metallica concert with Guns and Roses??? I did and boy what an experience!!!! A 8 hour extravaganza!!!! I saw things I could not believe and went home smelling like beer pot and maddog and did not have any of those things, just a diet coke!!!! I saw people jumping on top of out houses and people laying in the corners of the stadium!!!!! It sure was not like a Creed concert!!!!! It was before James from Metallica got burned, i think the show right before that! __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

11-15-2002, 06:26 PM	#8
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yes indeed, Dogstar and JDM. Nirvana, primarily Kurt, hated the Seattle connection, not because of the sound per se, but the constant associations with other bands such as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc. Cobain wrote in his diary that he'd like nothing better than to rid himself of Pearl Jam. They weren't buddies. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

11-15-2002, 06:27 PM	#9
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yes, Read, Cobain wanted to make his own mark on music and not be lumped in with them. It was a love-hate thing with the media and the record execs. In one breath he'd say he hated the media, MTV and the record execs, and in the next, he was worried about Nirvana's videos not being played enough and record sales. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-17-2002, 01:10 AM	#10
flynn USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 3 Joined: Nov 2002 Currently: Offline	kurt hated pearl jam in the beginning... partly because of their quick rise and partly because of kurt's friendship with the guys in mudhoney and how jeff and stone broke out of green river to form a more commerical band- mother love bone. kurt later- as did courtney- renig on all of their pearl jam bashing... and admitted to their being wrong about the guys. no on talks about that though... just to create more mysticism around the whole seattle scene. kurt just had a big ego. he was a genius... but a genius with a HUGE ego. also, pearl jam wrote a song for layne in tribute to his death. they chose not to put it on the album though... out of respect. may be used later though.

11-17-2002, 01:12 AM	#11
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yes, they did indeed patch things up. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-17-2002, 01:14 AM	#12
Xterminator27 USER INFO » Status: Said Eyes Posts: 4,314 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	I dont know where people get the creed is a pear jam copy.... Pear Jam's nowhere as good as creed __________________ If life gives you lemons, Then shut the hell up and eat your damn lemons! BUY MY MERCHANDISE http://www.cafepress.com/xterminator27

11-17-2002, 01:17 AM	#13
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Um, I think as much as I love Creed, Pearl Jam is better, lyrically for sure. Eddie Vedder is an awesome songwriter. Both bands are in my top 10. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

11-17-2002, 01:26 AM	#14
Xterminator27 USER INFO » Status: Said Eyes Posts: 4,314 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	All depends on whos opinion your taking of course __________________ If life gives you lemons, Then shut the hell up and eat your damn lemons! BUY MY MERCHANDISE http://www.cafepress.com/xterminator27

11-17-2002, 01:40 AM	#15
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Of course...that's just my opinion. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

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