Dec the 25th the birth of christ

creedsister · 12-14-2003, 09:31 AM

For the first time in like forever i have a question yes me i have a question,Here it is,,we celabrate christmas as jesus birthday but know one knows if it happend on the 24 day of dec or not,,not that i care or god the importan thing is that it did,,does anybody else know of any dif dates other than DEc 25 ,,it would really help me with some stuff,,,peace be wicha ya, ll

RMadd · 12-14-2003, 05:09 PM

I think scholars have pinpointed the date to sometime in the spring (april or may?) based on the shepherds and the customary census, and perhaps astronomical events... dec 25 was chosen b/c it was the same day as a famous pagan holiday, and was used as a sort of deterrant or alternative to the non-christians

creedsister · 12-14-2003, 06:25 PM

I did,nt know that well it was good to find out anyways,,

bgivens33 · 12-15-2003, 04:39 AM

That is exactly what i've heard

Sincirr · 12-15-2003, 05:59 AM

Same with Easter 2

creedsister · 12-15-2003, 04:29 PM

Well Good God bless me this is a first,,Everybodys in agremeant,,

RMadd · 12-15-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by creedsister) Well Good God bless me this is a first,,Everybodys in agremeant,,

lol

creedsister · 12-15-2003, 04:48 PM

maybe i mite have spoke to soon,,

Bridge of Clay · 12-15-2003, 08:31 PM

Christ wasn't born on Dec 25th. That should be winter in Middle East, therefore, there were no flock of sheep on winter.

Students of Ancient History and ministers say Jesus was probablu born in June-October period, hence the Bible says there were flocks.

No one knows the right date, but I don't see nothing wrong in creating a date to celebrate His born. I don't care if it's right or not...(the date)

creedsister · 12-15-2003, 09:05 PM

I didnt know that it could have been sometimes in Oct,,but who knows but that really helped me out alot,,peace be whicha

Alter Shredder · 12-15-2003, 11:06 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sincirr) Same with Easter 2

While many holidays coincide (sp?) with many pagan holidays. Easter does not. We know this because Jesus was celebrating passover at the time of his capture. So it would have been shortly after that he was crucified. So easter is around the same time as passover.

RMadd · 12-16-2003, 12:27 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Iced) While many holidays coincide (sp?) with many pagan holidays. Easter does not. We know this because Jesus was celebrating passover at the time of his capture. So it would have been shortly after that he was crucified. So easter is around the same time as passover.

Word... I wasn't sure about that Easter comment either. Granted, it didn't occur whichever Sunday of the year following whatever that it does, but we know it was a Sunday and, as has been so eloquently mentioned, was following the Passover.

Sincirr · 12-16-2003, 07:26 AM

I ski

Man, what a scare I just went through the whole night in absolute agony, throwing up and everything, and then was rushed to hospital the next day after seeing my doctor. Had kidney stones!

creedsister · 12-16-2003, 07:15 PM

that sucks i hope you feel better soon

Creed_Defaultgirl · 12-16-2003, 09:13 PM

Yeah, Kidney stones suck. I haven't had them, but I was in the truck with my Dad while he had them, it was quite a scare! About Christ's b-day, I was actually watching a show on this the other day. I don't know how they came up with an exact date, but they said it was either april 6th or april 26. one or the other. I wasn't paying that much attention.

12-14-2003, 09:31 AM	#1
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	Dec the 25th the birth of christ For the first time in like forever i have a question yes me i have a question,Here it is,,we celabrate christmas as jesus birthday but know one knows if it happend on the 24 day of dec or not,,not that i care or god the importan thing is that it did,,does anybody else know of any dif dates other than DEc 25 ,,it would really help me with some stuff,,,peace be wicha ya, ll __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-14-2003, 05:09 PM	#2
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	I think scholars have pinpointed the date to sometime in the spring (april or may?) based on the shepherds and the customary census, and perhaps astronomical events... dec 25 was chosen b/c it was the same day as a famous pagan holiday, and was used as a sort of deterrant or alternative to the non-christians __________________

12-14-2003, 06:25 PM	#3
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	I did,nt know that well it was good to find out anyways,, __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-15-2003, 04:29 PM	#6
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	Well Good God bless me this is a first,,Everybodys in agremeant,, __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-15-2003, 04:31 PM	#7
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by creedsister) Well Good God bless me this is a first,,Everybodys in agremeant,, lol __________________

12-15-2003, 04:39 AM	#4
bgivens33 USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	That is exactly what i've heard

12-15-2003, 04:48 PM	#8
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	maybe i mite have spoke to soon,, __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-15-2003, 08:31 PM	#9
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Christ wasn't born on Dec 25th. That should be winter in Middle East, therefore, there were no flock of sheep on winter. Students of Ancient History and ministers say Jesus was probablu born in June-October period, hence the Bible says there were flocks. No one knows the right date, but I don't see nothing wrong in creating a date to celebrate His born. I don't care if it's right or not...(the date) __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

12-15-2003, 09:05 PM	#10
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	I didnt know that it could have been sometimes in Oct,,but who knows but that really helped me out alot,,peace be whicha __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-15-2003, 11:06 PM	#11
Alter Shredder USER INFO » Status: Blue Collar Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Sincirr) Same with Easter 2 While many holidays coincide (sp?) with many pagan holidays. Easter does not. We know this because Jesus was celebrating passover at the time of his capture. So it would have been shortly after that he was crucified. So easter is around the same time as passover.

12-16-2003, 12:27 AM	#12
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Iced) While many holidays coincide (sp?) with many pagan holidays. Easter does not. We know this because Jesus was celebrating passover at the time of his capture. So it would have been shortly after that he was crucified. So easter is around the same time as passover. Word... I wasn't sure about that Easter comment either. Granted, it didn't occur whichever Sunday of the year following whatever that it does, but we know it was a Sunday and, as has been so eloquently mentioned, was following the Passover. __________________

12-16-2003, 07:15 PM	#14
creedsister USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,290 Joined: Oct 2003 Currently: Offline	that sucks i hope you feel better soon __________________ Hush child I,ll tell you why you have Loved Me when you were weak you have given me unselfishly Kept you From Falling Falling everywhere But Your Kness you set me free to live my life you become my Reason To Survive The Great Divide you Set Me Free Ooh Our Love Is Beautiful Ooh isn,t This Beautiful Child It Seems You Have Been My Everything

12-16-2003, 09:13 PM	#15
Creed_Defaultgirl USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 903 Joined: Nov 2003 Currently: Offline	Yeah, Kidney stones suck. I haven't had them, but I was in the truck with my Dad while he had them, it was quite a scare! About Christ's b-day, I was actually watching a show on this the other day. I don't know how they came up with an exact date, but they said it was either april 6th or april 26. one or the other. I wasn't paying that much attention. __________________ "...My beaten heart is in your hands, What I really need is shelter, And a chance to relearn love, Teach me all over, All over to relearn love, Show me again, So I can relearn love, The comfort of your arms around me, Your tender hands caress my head, I lay beside you, I'm not worthy..." Relearn Love~Scott Stapp

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