No Religion...

[CollectiveSoul]

I am considered a christian but its like i have no religion. Why would I? I was told that if i become more religious this will help me understnad life better, and It really doesn't. I've doing fine without this whole religion thing so i have no God becasue if there is a god watching over us like as our ruler i don't where he is ruling becuase he hasnt helped me much. i told my mom this and she siad "wehre doyour lines on your hadn come from?" uh they are gentically there. I see no reason for ME to praise someone that has never shown his face and that is nverp proven to exist or even help us, but if i become a athesit my parents will freak but i sitll wanna celebrater Christmas wit hthe tree exccept i dont belive in that stuff. SOrry if this stuff is out of order its jsut me spilling my guts out to everyone. Ma iwrong to feel this way? Am i being a moron for saying i don't ythink there is a god? damn this sucks.

[Altair]

Perhaps the problem with most organized religion is that God is portrayed as something "other" than what we truly are..."so disconnected"

I mean, I can totally relate to what you are saying. Your thoughts are sound and logical. It seems to me that the only one we need to believe in is ourself. Afterall, it's you there all the time, watching over, listening in, living. Perhaps the "God" that is so praised and preached is really nothing more than the life we are individually feeling and ultimately sharing with one another.

In any event, if there is such a thing as "eternal life" who would you be living it for? In the end, who do you serve? Whom are you faithful to?

Connect to the living one, the one inside us all, the one whose existence you cannot deny.

[Wylde-Tremonti]

I'm tellin you.....believing in God and being a Christian isn't easy, and it is harder than not believing in anything...but when your dead, and this life is over....where will you be? ....i think you know the answer, life may be hard as a Christian.....but it's better than the alternative....
With my sincere hope that you truly find God and yourself,
Matt

[krzycreedbabe]

i can totally relate to what your sayin...CS...im kinda at the same place..i mean im not religious at all...its not like i pray every night or go to church...only on xmas eve....and not even to the church i belong to...actaully the church i go to then isnt even my religion..im Catholic and we usually go to a Lutheran church...once a yr...i mean i guess i beleive in some of the stuff but ive never read the bible..i basically went to CCD bc my parents made me and yea idk.. im just confused...for now i think im just gonna keep on doin the whole non religious thing and when i need the religion ill have somethin to fall back on idk...lol i kinda feel a bit guilty for saying this but since u brought up the subject...figured id share my thoughts...feels good...

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Listen....i don't want to scare anyone....but this isn't about you just goin to church......having religion is setting your beliefs....if you don't have religion...then what are your beliefs? What do you put your faith in!?....If you have no beliefs or faith...then what's the point of your life? if you don't have God in your life, how can you live? I dunno how u could???

[krzycreedbabe]

ok...i guess i have my beleifs...but..im openminded lets just put it that way

[Wylde-Tremonti]

ok....just be careful

[krzycreedbabe]

no prob bob

[rodirocker]

The chances of life happening by chance (The route you would take when you don't believe in any type of divinity) is one chance in 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000. yep that is a 1 with 60 zeros after it. You do not have the faith to believe there is a God, but you have the faith to believe in THAT???

Now lets look at something else. Creation. Say you are walking in the mountains and you happen to stumble upon a watch in the rocks. You pick up the watch and automatically assume that there was some sort of intelligent design behind it. It couldn't have just been created by chance! When you look at an atom, a human eye, a mountain, your hand, a BRAIN, how in the world can you assume it all happened by chance? This is what you will be assuming when you become an athiest. Not a very wise choice. You would need MUCH MUCH MUCH more faith to be an athiest than a theist.

Well I hope I made sense. I have much more to back up this arguement!

[Wylde-Tremonti]

Nicely put...better than i did....lol

[Altair]

rodirocker, i'm diggin' what you're sayin'

Funny thing is: we take all of this for granted so much of the time.

Perhaps that's why we have death, or the perception of life ending: it helps define the experience of life. Without contrast, distinction is not possible.

[hotforscott]

You can be spirit filled, full of faith and joy, a believer of God and Christianity without religion. Religion is a set of rules that society has set forth. People interpret the bible in different ways and that creates religion. Non-denominational churches beleive in "reading the bible like it is", and they feel that Religion has created a lot of problems. Just like the bible stating the "Woman should be silent in church" Pentecostal people believe to interpret that as it is read. They say women cannot preach, they should be silent in church, yet they have women singing in their choir. The bible says, "turn water into wine", yet the baptists feel you should not drink. I will say this, I am not religious, but I have reasearched a lot about churches and have attended several. I think that it's best to find what you beleive in, maybe you feel more secure in a certain religion so you like to know what your boundaries are. I myself feel more comfortable with spirituality, I think religion just complicates things. Just to let you know my opinion on this issue.

[Wylde-Tremonti]

I somewhat disagree, i think it is important to read the Bible and to and i think Women have their place in church, but i don't think u can just read the bible alone....cuz that can be very very confusing....i think u need some form of church to HELP you interprut the Bible.....other wise u could just interpret it to the way you want it like u could interpret it to sat....well you forgiven anyway....so do whatever the hell you want....but that's not really what it is trying to say....Does this make any sense?

[hotforscott]

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Originally posted by TremontiWanaB
I somewhat disagree, i think it is important to read the Bible and to and i think Women have their place in church, but i don't think u can just read the bible alone....cuz that can be very very confusing....i think u need some form of church to HELP you interprut the Bible.....other wise u could just interpret it to the way you want it like u could interpret it to sat....well you forgiven anyway....so do whatever the hell you want....but that's not really what it is trying to say....Does this make any sense?

It's great that you disagree. I was stating the things I have come across along the way, those are not my particular beliefs, just ones that I have encountered by trying out different churches. I do not belong to a church. I did go as a child and I have been to my share as an adult, but I think that if you are curious enough about the bible to want to read it and interpret it, then you should find the church in which you feel comfortable. I guess I should have said it more clearly so that it was understood by all.

[Wylde-Tremonti]

ok....that makes some more sense to me...._m/!