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Old 10-13-2006, 08:27 AM   #16
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Re: Questions about God

I respect faith, but doubt is what gets you an education.
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A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
"Faith" means not wanting to know what is true.
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Faith is believing what you know ain't so.
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"The world holds two classes of men - Intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence."
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'I've never seen faith move a mountain, but I've seen what it does to skyscrapers' - Stacey Melissa

On the other hand:
"Reality is just a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs."
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Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time.
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To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.

If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:53 PM   #17
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Re: Questions about God

This is who impresses you?, Well that figures
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:49 PM   #18
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Re: Questions about God

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) Hey, don't forget he died for our sins, so I can sin as much as I want as long as I repent on my deathbed.

While it is true that even those who repent on their deathbeds wil be saved (the point being that a life of sin makes this unlikely at best), the widespread notion that we can do whatever we want because He died for our sins is Protestant hogwash... Not sure if you were implying anything of the sort.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:06 PM   #19
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Re: Questions about God

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) 3) Just a funny thing. "You shall have no other Gods before me" - Well then there must be other Gods, right...? If there wasn't, why would he bother putting it there?

What God was meaning in that phrase,is that whatever you put before God instead of spending time seeking Him is considered our god. For instance if you don't care about anything but money and material things and you are more concerned with the things you have rather than seeking God then money and material things becomes like an idol to you.
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Old 10-16-2006, 09:42 PM   #20
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Re: Questions about God

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer) While it is true that even those who repent on their deathbeds wil be saved (the point being that a life of sin makes this unlikely at best), the widespread notion that we can do whatever we want because He died for our sins is Protestant hogwash... Not sure if you were implying anything of the sort.
also, you can repent on your deathbed all you want, but you have to repent in faith with your heart, which an athiest will obviously not have the ability to do.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:00 PM   #21
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Re: Questions about God

1). 1. God is just (Genesis 18:25; Romans 2:11).

2. Since all are sinners, God would have been just to send all people to hell. He was gracious to provide salvation through Christ (Ephesians 2:1-9).

3. God has put within people a basic awareness of Himself and of the requirement to do right (Romans 1:19,32; 2:15).

4. God has revealed Himself (as eternal, as all-powerful, as good, etc.) to all by means of the created world (Romans 1:20).

5. Man willfully can ignore that revelation.

a. They “suppress the truth” (Romans 1:18).

b. They refuse to “honor God” (Romans 1:21).

c. They choose to worship idols of men or beasts instead (Romans 1:23).

d. They choose to ignore God’s standard of righteousness (Romans 1:24-32).

6. So when God has revealed himself and some have willfully rejected Him, He is fair to judge them.


2). I do believe in evolution, but I believe that it was God's will too.
3). Anything you put before God becomes your God. If you stay home to play video games instead of doing what you know in your heart is right, you have put video games before God.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:01 PM   #22
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Re: Questions about God

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) ... I just wanna hear religios people out and see if I can learn something from their point of view. Alright, let's start!

1) If you're God really excists. If he really is good and all-mighty. How come people had other religions before Abraham first spoke to God? If God created everything, how come he didn't make a move before Abraham met him? Why did he just stand by and watch when greeks build tempels for Zeus and other Gods?

2) Is there anyone here who rejects the theory of evolution? Evolution has pretty much been proved, what makes you think that theory is wrong?

3) Just a funny thing. "You shall have no other Gods before me" - Well then there must be other Gods, right...? If there wasn't, why would he bother putting it there?

Not sure if you have learned anything but I saw this thread and just wanted to add something to it...

1)The other gods - I am not sure if you have the book, "The Holy Bible", but anyways at the begining of the book it talks about the serpent (lucifer) saying to Adam and Eve that if they ate the fruit from this certain tree that they were told not to eat from by God, that they would have the ability from eating it to be like gods, knowing good and evil. They ate from it.

Because God believed in Love as being a free choice, He didn't make us to be robots that had to submit, so therefore we had choices, which have been made even harder now, since the choice to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This choice led to a chain of events that led to humsnkind making decisions on what was Godly and what was right and wrong to follow in life.

So therefore technically, the beginning of the freedom of believing what you want to believe started right then, I think. humankind then, were able to make decisions on what was right and wrong, also what about God was right and wrong is my belief! And thus, clarity of who God really is, was compromised.

3) Other gods - as Julie and others have said, the term "gods" basically means idols, and in Hebrew definition it can mean god-like.

3) Evolution - Certain elements of evolution are fine. It is just science's way of discovering our origin, but at times it seems to be strange to me, even ridiculous as I know God and know it can't be right. Others find it easier to grapple with than God Himself though, and I can understand why. Again, I believe that even this theory is tainted from what happened in the garden from the eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

hmmmm im tired...more later perhaps...
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:10 PM   #23
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Yes The Sweet I,am

The Bitter With The Sweet The Perfect Balance Of A Fine Wine Who Lips Are Sweeter Than Honey AND WHOS GLORY CANT BE JUSTFIED BY NO MAN ...GLORY TO GOD, Pour Some Sugar On YOU HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, I Cant Do That...WHY? B/C Sugar WONT LIFT UP MY BROKEN CHILDREN SUGAR WONT GO BACK AND LIFT UP ONE OF MY BROTHERS WHO HAS LOST HIS FAITH AND ON A ENDLESS JOURNEY GOD IS THE GOD OF HIS CHILDREN LAST STANDING , BE THE CHILDREN OF THE SWEET I,am THE LORD THY GOD WILL NOT HEAR THE PRAYER OF THE FOOLS BUT HE HEARS THE PRAYERS OF THE BROKEN, HE WILL NOT EXALT THOSE ON THE MOUNTIAN AND HIS GLORY WILL NOT SHINE IN THIR FALSE HOUSES, i dont Care HOW GOOD IT SOUNDS OR HOW FANCY IT IS, OR HOW MANY GOOD DEEDS IS DONE THE LORD THY GOD IS THE JUDGE OF THE HEART MANY SHALL BE REWARED FOR THE DEEDS, TO THE GREATEST TO THE FEW, GLORY TO GOD,
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:18 PM   #24
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The Cornerstone !!!!!!

AND WHEN THE PEOPLE WERE GATHERED THICK TOGETHER HE BEGAN TO SAY......THIS IS AN EVIL GENARATION THEY SEEK A SIGN AND THERE SHALL NO SIGN BE GIVEN, BUT THE SIGN OF JONAS THE PROPHET, FOR AS JONAS WAS THE SIGN UNTO THE NINEVITES SO SHALL ALSO THE SON OF MAN BE TO THIS GENARATION OF VIPERS, VERLIY HE SAID WOE UNTO THEME, THE QUEEN OF THESOUTH SHALL RISE UP IN JUDGEMENT WITH THE MEN OF THIS GENRATION AND CONDEMN THEME FOR SHE CAME FROM THE UTTERMOST OF THE EARTH TO HEAR THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON AND BEHOLD A GREATER THAN SOLOMON IS HERE THE MEN OF NINEVE SHALL RISE UP IN THE JUDGEMENT WITH THIS GENERATION AND SHALL INDEED CONDEMN IT FOR THEY REPENTED AT THE PREACHING OF JONAS AND BEHOLD A GREATER THAN JONAS IS HERE, St Luke 11, 29 32,
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:23 AM   #25
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Re: Questions about God

Hi....

1) When Satan and Adam and Eve rebelled, the true God decided to handle the rebellion a certain way. Like a court case, he was going to let the evidence build up for their case, which is, 'humans can make their own laws, and life is better than if God makes the laws.'

I personally can see the mess the earth and mankind has come to and support God's Sovereignty as oppossed to human and Satan's rule.

2) In my opinion Creation is true, so why do you think it is not?

3) A god is whatever a person puts first in life. The Bible says we should put the will of the true God first. However, love of God will motivate us to do this. And time has been allowed for us to choose which God we want to worship. In time the true God will judge all.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:30 PM   #26
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You Speak Of

THE FIRST AND THE LAST THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA HE THAT BULIDETH AND BREAKETH , YES HE MUST BE PUT FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING FOR EVERYTHING ELSE SHALL PROVIDE FOR ITSELF, OH GLORY i tell ya its been a week and u know what i learned a new word this week COASTING Which some of us Do WHEN WE RUNNING OUT OF GAS, Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yes Coasting it falls somewhere in between the lines Where My Streneth Is Far From Me But Im Still Draging MY GOD OF MY WAKING HOUR OH GLORY, We Gotta Coast BECAUSE OH MY MY PRECIOUS JEHOVHA GOD MY REASONS ARE NO GOOD OH GLORY I DONT CARE HOW MUCH U LOVE ME I LOVE U TOO BUT I NEED STRENGETH MY GOD MY EVERYTHING AND HE THAT ABIDES AND DWELLS SAYS YOUR TAKING ALL I HAVE CHILD I Know I Know MY GOD BUT I NEED MORE you know its great to have a friend that understands that we see GOD Reflect In and its great that the respect that un understood relationship, Talked to one on the phone last week at the time these suplications was in process , and i was worried So They Called In The Nick time And I quote The Convesation, The Friend How Are U doing Girl, Me, Im Living Friend I Hope You Feel Better Soon , Me, Yep, Friend Words That Stumble And Fall And Made Short, ME, Yep Hey Hey I Know It, Friend Well I call ya back ME, Yep Give The Babys Sugar For Me And I Love Ya, Click
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:33 PM   #27
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Re: Questions about God

Jesus christ is God manifest in the flesh.. without him you will choose the road that ultimately leads to hell... there is no in between your either on his side or not... the choice is yours... his love is free... say all you want but thats the straight up truth..... if people choose to be ignorant than that seems more like a personal issue they have to face within the mirror and the face they see everyday they live while here on earth..... sorry if im too forward but thats the truth and the truth shall set you free....
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:23 AM   #28
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Re: Questions about God

People are allowed to ask questions though.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:11 AM   #29
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Read Daily Bread today...

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Old 11-23-2007, 01:35 PM   #30
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The Glorified Prayer ?

What Is THAT what makes this prayer BETTER THAN THE REST ITS JESUS THE CORNERSTONE THE ONLY PROPHET WHO LIVED AND DIED AND NO OTHER BEFORE HIM WAS ABLE TO FILL HIS SHOES AND IN HIS DEATH MARCH HE CRIED UNTO FATHER SAYING i thirst in saying those who love me those who strife those who follow me WILL NEED ME AND THEY WILL NEED MY TRUTH, GLORY TO GOD , St John 7, 14 19, NOW about the midst of the feast jesus went up into the temple and he taught of him and they marvelled saying how knoweth this man leters having never learned, JESUS answred theme and said, My doctrine is not mine but his that sent me, GLORY TO GOD always Giving GOD THE GLORY And Humbling himself Before GOD, I SAY GLORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY if any man will do HIS WILL HE SHALL KNOW OF THAT DOCTRINE whether it be of GOD Or Whether I Speak Of Myself GLORY, He that speaks Of Himself Seeketh His Own Glory BUT HE that Seeketh His Glory that sent him the same is true and no unrightneousness is in him AND ITS A FIGHT AND A CONSTANT WARFARE, and he also said did not moses give ya the law and yet none of ya could keep it anyway why do ye go about to kill me , but in these days we are acounted as sheep for the slaughter ALL THE DAY LONG GLORY if we aint getting from family if we aint getting from other christians so called and the rising of herods army and the darkness in the world we getting in a constant spirtual warfare ALL THE DAY LONG im going say GLORY that THE PRAYER WAS GLORFIED AND HAS RISEN TODAY TO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE, THE CORNERSTONE WHO LIVED AND DIED SET US FREE FROM ALL BONDAGE and not only that everybody got off free AS LONG AS THEY JUST SPEAK OF HIS NAME THATS HOW POWERFULL IT IS WHEN ALL THOSE LAWS FORSAKES YA, u dont have to know him just call upon his name GLORY, over in romans says whosover shall call upon the The Lord Jesus Christ Shall be saved,
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