The Crest Quest Journey - Page 2

Sheila63 · 06-13-2003, 08:33 PM

Thanks for posting all this info, Marcos.

I'm going to go over to bandrags and check it out too. I think it's really interesting.

I see the two hearts you were talking about Matt when I was looking at my crest tattoo. I never really noticed that before. Very cool!!

JenRN · 06-13-2003, 08:53 PM

VERY intersesting!!!! Hmmm.... I really want to see the belt buckle now! I love native American things and I do believe this is where this all stems from!

Bridge of Clay · 06-13-2003, 08:56 PM

the crest buckle!!!

here it is:
http://www.creed-fanatic.com/mysteriouscre...reed/buckle.jpg

DangerousDan85 · 06-14-2003, 12:02 AM

i can see the "fish" part of the crest on the buckle (two fish facing each other, instead of two hearts)

DangerousDan85 · 06-14-2003, 12:05 AM

fish= water

crest as a whole= sun= fire

four points (N, S, E, W), could = a windmill = wind

theseeker018 · 06-14-2003, 12:38 AM

uhhhhhh......

and about this

...

DangerousDan85 · 06-14-2003, 12:47 AM

look at stapp's buckle:

the 4 points on the buckle (top, bottom, left, right) look like this

+

i'm saying that could be a windmill, meaning "wind"

and on the buckle the middle looks like 2 fishes facing each other, could= water

i'm just using my imagination

Steve · 06-14-2003, 02:54 AM

I think you people are looking way too into this...

hayley · 06-14-2003, 03:18 AM

I can defenitly see the two fish and the windmill, and it could mean sea and wind, but who knows

Thanks for the information Marocs, keep putting it together! :P

JenRN · 06-14-2003, 07:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Steve
I think you people are looking way too into this...

I do too, I think it is not as complicated as this! I think it is more a simple idea

DangerousDan85 · 06-14-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Steve
I think you people are looking way too into this...

i think your avatar is weird

Bridge of Clay · 06-14-2003, 08:07 PM

It´s so simple! The answer is staring at you!!! (the buckle crest).

Anyway, I tried to look it sideways, and I don´t see it yet. If it was a snake, I would be gone for now...

hehehe

ps: fish is a symbol that means you´re Christian.

Bridge of Clay · 06-14-2003, 09:04 PM

Back to the topic, James/Phoenix has the answer. The prayers below is something he posted as hints to find its meaning. I didn´t get it, but maybe you have some thoughts:

Quote:
Oh Great Spirit,  
"You have set the powers of the FOUR quarters of the earth to cross each other. You have made me cross the good road and road of difficulties, and where they cross, the place is holy. Day in, day out, forevermore, you are the life of things."  

Sun Tracks  

the Track of the Sun  

across the Sky  

leaves its shining message,  

Illuminating,  

Strengthening,  

Warming,  

us who are here,  

showing us we are not alone,  

we are yet ALIVE!  

And this fireÖ  

Our fireÖ  

Shall not die!  

Do not dismiss your dreams. To be without dreams,  
Is to be without hope. To be without hope,  
Is to be without purpose!!!!  

And in closing,I'd like to say...........May we all have the increase of loving hearts and the happy life of PEACE and HARMONY !!!!  
Rock on Everyone,

Quote:
Prayer to the Great Spirit  
Indian Prayer for Peace  

Oh, Great Spirit who dwells in the sky,  
Lead us to the path of peace and understanding.  
Let all of us live together as brothers and sisters.  
Our lives are so short here,  
Walking upon Mother Earth's surface.  
Let our eyes be opened to all the blessings you have given us.  
Please hear my prayers, Oh, Great Spirit.  

Oh, Great Spirit  
Whose voice I hear in the winds,  
And whose breath gives life to all the world,  
Hear me! I am small and weak,  
I need your strength and wisdom.  

Let me walk in beauty  
And make my eyes ever behold the red and purple sunset.  
Make my hands respect the things you have made  
And my ears sharp to hear your voice.  
Make me wise so that I may understand  
The things you have taught my people.  
Let me learn the lessons you have  
Hidden in every leaf and rock  
I seek strength, not to be greater than my brother,  
But to fight my greatest enemy  
~myself.  
Make me always ready to come to you  
With clean hands and straight eyes,  
So when life fades, as the fading sunset,  
My Spirit may come to you without shame.  
All my Relations!  

An Indian Prayer- Original version  

Oh GREAT SPIRIT:  

Whose voice I hear in the winds, and whose  
breath gives life to all the world, hear me.  
I am a man before You, one of Your many  
children - I am small and weak. I need your  
strength and wisdom. Let me walk in beauty  
and make my eyes ever behold the red and  
purple sunset. Made my hands respect the  
things You have made, my ears sharp to hear  
Your voice. Make me wise, so that I may  
know the things you have taught my people -  
the lesson you have hidden in every leaf and  
rock. I seek strength not to be superior to  
my brothers, but to be able to fight my greatest  
enemy - myself. Make me ever ready to  
come to You with clean hands and straight  
eyes, so when life fades as a fading sunset my  
spirit may come to You without shame.

Bridge of Clay · 06-14-2003, 09:32 PM

you could also see this:
http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/47/4715.html

Bridge of Clay · 06-14-2003, 09:39 PM

did you ever think about the crest like this:
http://www.knology.net/~xena/BBfiles/sideCrest.jpg

???

06-13-2003, 08:33 PM	#16
Sheila63 USER INFO » Status: Opened My Eyes Posts: 5,748 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	Thanks for posting all this info, Marcos. I'm going to go over to bandrags and check it out too. I think it's really interesting. I see the two hearts you were talking about Matt when I was looking at my crest tattoo. I never really noticed that before. Very cool!! __________________ I was selfish, but you still loved me You gave the greatest gift of all And you set me free Relearn Love

06-13-2003, 08:53 PM	#17
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	VERY intersesting!!!! Hmmm.... I really want to see the belt buckle now! I love native American things and I do believe this is where this all stems from! __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

06-13-2003, 08:56 PM	#18
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	the crest buckle!!! here it is: http://www.creed-fanatic.com/mysteriouscre...reed/buckle.jpg __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-14-2003, 07:19 AM	#25
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Steve I think you people are looking way too into this... I do too, I think it is not as complicated as this! I think it is more a simple idea __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

06-14-2003, 08:07 PM	#27
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	It´s so simple! The answer is staring at you!!! (the buckle crest). Anyway, I tried to look it sideways, and I don´t see it yet. If it was a snake, I would be gone for now... hehehe ps: fish is a symbol that means you´re Christian. __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-14-2003, 09:04 PM	#28
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Back to the topic, James/Phoenix has the answer. The prayers below is something he posted as hints to find its meaning. I didn´t get it, but maybe you have some thoughts: Quote: Oh Great Spirit,   "You have set the powers of the FOUR quarters of the earth to cross each other. You have made me cross the good road and road of difficulties, and where they cross, the place is holy. Day in, day out, forevermore, you are the life of things."   Sun Tracks   the Track of the Sun   across the Sky   leaves its shining message,   Illuminating,   Strengthening,   Warming,   us who are here,   showing us we are not alone,   we are yet ALIVE!   And this fireÖ   Our fireÖ   Shall not die!   Do not dismiss your dreams. To be without dreams,   Is to be without hope. To be without hope,   Is to be without purpose!!!!   And in closing,I'd like to say...........May we all have the increase of loving hearts and the happy life of PEACE and HARMONY !!!!   Rock on Everyone, Quote: Prayer to the Great Spirit   Indian Prayer for Peace   Oh, Great Spirit who dwells in the sky,   Lead us to the path of peace and understanding.   Let all of us live together as brothers and sisters.   Our lives are so short here,   Walking upon Mother Earth's surface.   Let our eyes be opened to all the blessings you have given us.   Please hear my prayers, Oh, Great Spirit.   Oh, Great Spirit   Whose voice I hear in the winds,   And whose breath gives life to all the world,   Hear me! I am small and weak,   I need your strength and wisdom.   Let me walk in beauty   And make my eyes ever behold the red and purple sunset.   Make my hands respect the things you have made   And my ears sharp to hear your voice.   Make me wise so that I may understand   The things you have taught my people.   Let me learn the lessons you have   Hidden in every leaf and rock   I seek strength, not to be greater than my brother,   But to fight my greatest enemy   ~myself.   Make me always ready to come to you   With clean hands and straight eyes,   So when life fades, as the fading sunset,   My Spirit may come to you without shame.   All my Relations!   An Indian Prayer- Original version   Oh GREAT SPIRIT:   Whose voice I hear in the winds, and whose   breath gives life to all the world, hear me.   I am a man before You, one of Your many   children - I am small and weak. I need your   strength and wisdom. Let me walk in beauty   and make my eyes ever behold the red and   purple sunset. Made my hands respect the   things You have made, my ears sharp to hear   Your voice. Make me wise, so that I may   know the things you have taught my people -   the lesson you have hidden in every leaf and   rock. I seek strength not to be superior to   my brothers, but to be able to fight my greatest   enemy - myself. Make me ever ready to   come to You with clean hands and straight   eyes, so when life fades as a fading sunset my   spirit may come to You without shame. __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-14-2003, 09:32 PM	#29
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	you could also see this: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/47/4715.html __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

06-14-2003, 09:39 PM	#30
Bridge of Clay USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 8,025 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	did you ever think about the crest like this: http://www.knology.net/~xena/BBfiles/sideCrest.jpg ??? __________________ .:: "If people don't like guitar solos... then they're frikkin' stupid!" - Mark Tremonti ::.

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