Scott's upcoming radio tour - Page 2

Trimontana · 10-05-2005, 06:26 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TeriB19) Really! That's an odd choice of cities, considering.

LOL Teri

The Lithium · 10-05-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by INDIGOSTEVE) I guess when you write songs you want to perform the ones you like, I have some creed songs especially off of my own prison that I would love to hear live again!

Yeah, but that is NOT Scott's songs! That's Mark's songs that that Scott just sang! I think it's weak of him to play Creed tunes on tour.

Ana4Stapp · 10-05-2005, 09:53 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) Same here. I want to hear more, especially since I'm not fond of the new single. I'm hoping the rest will be better.

Much better ... I hope

jmhonline · 10-05-2005, 11:45 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, but that is NOT Scott's songs! That's Mark's songs that that Scott just sang! I think it's weak of him to play Creed tunes on tour.

How do we know who wrote what? I have seen Scott say he wrote this song because of this and that. I have seen Mark say the same thing about other songs. Does one write the majority of certain songs and the other helps finish it up? Every CD I have had says Stapp/Tremonti or Tremonti/Stapp. thanks

P.S. So are you saying Mark wrote Higher?

Creed7352 · 10-05-2005, 12:13 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) How do we know who wrote what? I have seen Scott say he wrote this song because of this and that. I have seen Mark say the same thing about other songs. Does one write the majority of certain songs and the other helps finish it up? Every CD I have had says Stapp/Tremonti or Tremonti/Stapp. thanks

P.S. So are you saying Mark wrote Higher?

i believe they were all collaborative efforts, save for a few...mark wrote the music for higher and probably helped with the lyrics some...or maybe not, we don't know for sure. regardless...he should've done RL and a creed tune, not 2 creed tunes.

INDIGOSTEVE · 10-05-2005, 12:44 PM

Scott wrote most of the lyrics and that makes them his, and he can do them if he wants.

jmhonline · 10-05-2005, 12:49 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) i believe they were all collaborative efforts, save for a few...mark wrote the music for higher and probably helped with the lyrics some...or maybe not, we don't know for sure. regardless...he should've done RL and a creed tune, not 2 creed tunes.

I'm referring more to the lyrics. thanks

The Lithium · 10-05-2005, 01:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) How do we know who wrote what? I have seen Scott say he wrote this song because of this and that. I have seen Mark say the same thing about other songs. Does one write the majority of certain songs and the other helps finish it up? Every CD I have had says Stapp/Tremonti or Tremonti/Stapp. thanks

P.S. So are you saying Mark wrote Higher?

Mark wrote all the songs. And by saying that I mean the music. And yes, Mark did write more lyrics than we know of. At least that is what has been told to us by Mark's brother Michael and some other sure sources.

Like What's This Life For... Mark wrote all the music for that one, and some says he wrote most of the lyrics, other says he wrote the whole lyrics. Anyway... I think Mark, (or at least some one who knows him), have said that Scott often took credit for the things Mark did in Creed. So maybe the lyrics for WTLF was one of those things. And it has become pretty obvious that Scott has lied about some stuff in the past, to give an perfect picture of Creed to the fans.

2 example I often use when I'm talking about Scott's lying is:
1) AB and Michael says Stapp did lie, (read the Kerrang Interview! It's up on ABB.net, I think)
2) He said he kept contact with AB after the Creed break up. And that he and Mark decided, over the phone, which songs would feature on the Greatest Hits CD. When Mark, Flip and Brian were totally against the release of the Greatest Hits record. When you check the booklet it says that some guy; Ryan Smith, decided which songs were gonna feature on the album. I remember Michael saying in a post back on AlterBridgeRocks.com that all this Stapp had said was just "Another falt lie".

I'm not saying I hate Stapp, I do support him, I'm just saying that he might have been taking some credit for stuff Mark's done in the past.

INDIGOSTEVE · 10-05-2005, 01:10 PM

its really a who knows who did exactly what but they wrote most together.

jmhonline · 10-05-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Mark wrote all the songs. And by saying that I mean the music. And yes, Mark did write more lyrics than we know of. At least that is what has been told to us by Mark's brother Michael and some other sure sources.

Like What's This Life For... Mark wrote all the music for that one, and some says he wrote most of the lyrics, other says he wrote the whole lyrics. Anyway... I think Mark, (or at least some one who knows him), have said that Scott often took credit for the things Mark did in Creed. So maybe the lyrics for WTLF was one of those things. And it has become pretty obvious that Scott has lied about some stuff in the past, to give an perfect picture of Creed to the fans.

2 example I often use when I'm talking about Scott's lying is:
1) AB and Michael says Stapp did lie, (read the Kerrang Interview! It's up on ABB.net, I think)
2) He said he kept contact with AB after the Creed break up. And that he and Mark decided, over the phone, which songs would feature on the Greatest Hits CD. When Mark, Flip and Brian were totally against the release of the Greatest Hits record. When you check the booklet it says that some guy; Ryan Smith, decided which songs were gonna feature on the album. I remember Michael saying in a post back on AlterBridgeRocks.com that all this Stapp had said was just "Another falt lie".

I'm not saying I hate Stapp, I do support him, I'm just saying that he might have been taking some credit for stuff Mark's done in the past.

I'm referring more of the lyrics. I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related

Creed7352 · 10-05-2005, 01:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by INDIGOSTEVE) Scott wrote most of the lyrics and that makes them his, and he can do them if he wants.

yes, he can get up there and read his lyrics if he wants...lol

seriously though, any artist can do any song they want live. as long as they are not claiming it as their song they aren't breaking any copyright laws and can perform the song.

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related

huh??

jmhonline · 10-05-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related

Quote: huh??

Huh???? Another poster told me to look at abb.net for a possible interview. It has nothing to do with alter bridge, creed, etc.

jmhonline · 10-05-2005, 01:31 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, but that is NOT Scott's songs! That's Mark's songs that that Scott just sang! I think it's weak of him to play Creed tunes on tour.

Why are they mark's songs? I truly want to know. What if Creed fans want to hear them?

INDIGOSTEVE · 10-05-2005, 02:01 PM

you know its funny how Mark has invented himself to be this and that and slams Stapp all the time? maybe mark needs to take the high road you don't see Stapp slaming AB? and they aren't just marks songs people get over him he aint god!

The Lithium · 10-05-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) Why are they mark's songs? I truly want to know. What if Creed fans want to hear them?

Yeah, see I look at it this way... Since Mark wrote them it's Mark's songs. In case you didn't know - that's the way it works in the music biz!!

Quote: (Originally Posted by INDIGOSTEVE) you know its funny how Mark has invented himself to be this and that and slams Stapp all the time? maybe mark needs to take the high road you don't see Stapp slaming AB? and they aren't just marks songs people get over him he aint god!

Mark is a very down-to-earth-guy who has NEVER ever said anything bad about Stapp!!! Although I think Brian has. But never Mark. Mark has never in an interview said something unpolite about Stapp! And have you ever thought that he might be telling the truth? That Stapp actually was the reason they broke up? Almost all the Stapp fans are so close minded, and there's nothing in the world you can say to make me take that back! And I'm pretty sure pretty many of you are thinking: "Well, HE is close minded". But I'm really not. I read interviews from both AB and Stapp, I read every post Michael posts. And well... I have heard some pretty bad stories about Stapp from some contacts I have. I'm telling you, if I were close minded, I wouldn't be supporting Stapp! I am supporting Stapp, I just don't think he has a personality that's easy to deal with. I think it has a lot to do with his hard time growing up.

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10-05-2005, 11:45 AM	#19
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, but that is NOT Scott's songs! That's Mark's songs that that Scott just sang! I think it's weak of him to play Creed tunes on tour. How do we know who wrote what? I have seen Scott say he wrote this song because of this and that. I have seen Mark say the same thing about other songs. Does one write the majority of certain songs and the other helps finish it up? Every CD I have had says Stapp/Tremonti or Tremonti/Stapp. thanks P.S. So are you saying Mark wrote Higher?

10-05-2005, 12:13 PM	#20
Creed7352 USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 512 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) How do we know who wrote what? I have seen Scott say he wrote this song because of this and that. I have seen Mark say the same thing about other songs. Does one write the majority of certain songs and the other helps finish it up? Every CD I have had says Stapp/Tremonti or Tremonti/Stapp. thanks P.S. So are you saying Mark wrote Higher? i believe they were all collaborative efforts, save for a few...mark wrote the music for higher and probably helped with the lyrics some...or maybe not, we don't know for sure. regardless...he should've done RL and a creed tune, not 2 creed tunes.

10-05-2005, 12:44 PM	#21
INDIGOSTEVE USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 215 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Scott wrote most of the lyrics and that makes them his, and he can do them if he wants.

10-05-2005, 12:49 PM	#22
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) i believe they were all collaborative efforts, save for a few...mark wrote the music for higher and probably helped with the lyrics some...or maybe not, we don't know for sure. regardless...he should've done RL and a creed tune, not 2 creed tunes. I'm referring more to the lyrics. thanks

10-05-2005, 01:10 PM	#24
INDIGOSTEVE USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 215 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	its really a who knows who did exactly what but they wrote most together.

10-05-2005, 01:15 PM	#25
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Mark wrote all the songs. And by saying that I mean the music. And yes, Mark did write more lyrics than we know of. At least that is what has been told to us by Mark's brother Michael and some other sure sources. Like What's This Life For... Mark wrote all the music for that one, and some says he wrote most of the lyrics, other says he wrote the whole lyrics. Anyway... I think Mark, (or at least some one who knows him), have said that Scott often took credit for the things Mark did in Creed. So maybe the lyrics for WTLF was one of those things. And it has become pretty obvious that Scott has lied about some stuff in the past, to give an perfect picture of Creed to the fans. 2 example I often use when I'm talking about Scott's lying is: 1) AB and Michael says Stapp did lie, (read the Kerrang Interview! It's up on ABB.net, I think) 2) He said he kept contact with AB after the Creed break up. And that he and Mark decided, over the phone, which songs would feature on the Greatest Hits CD. When Mark, Flip and Brian were totally against the release of the Greatest Hits record. When you check the booklet it says that some guy; Ryan Smith, decided which songs were gonna feature on the album. I remember Michael saying in a post back on AlterBridgeRocks.com that all this Stapp had said was just "Another falt lie". I'm not saying I hate Stapp, I do support him, I'm just saying that he might have been taking some credit for stuff Mark's done in the past. I'm referring more of the lyrics. I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related

10-05-2005, 01:19 PM	#26
Creed7352 USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 512 Joined: May 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by INDIGOSTEVE) Scott wrote most of the lyrics and that makes them his, and he can do them if he wants. yes, he can get up there and read his lyrics if he wants...lol seriously though, any artist can do any song they want live. as long as they are not claiming it as their song they aren't breaking any copyright laws and can perform the song. Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related huh??

10-05-2005, 01:27 PM	#27
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by jmhonline) I went to abb.net, and it is not alter bridge related Quote: huh?? Huh???? Another poster told me to look at abb.net for a possible interview. It has nothing to do with alter bridge, creed, etc.

10-05-2005, 01:31 PM	#28
jmhonline USER INFO » Status: Silence Speaks Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Yeah, but that is NOT Scott's songs! That's Mark's songs that that Scott just sang! I think it's weak of him to play Creed tunes on tour. Why are they mark's songs? I truly want to know. What if Creed fans want to hear them?

10-05-2005, 02:01 PM	#29
INDIGOSTEVE USER INFO » Status: Naked Toddler Posts: 215 Joined: Oct 2005 Currently: Offline	you know its funny how Mark has invented himself to be this and that and slams Stapp all the time? maybe mark needs to take the high road you don't see Stapp slaming AB? and they aren't just marks songs people get over him he aint god!

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