Iraq

[Bridge of Clay]

I missed one thing:

I know what I posted above is FAR from being perfect. I know my limitations, and on my point of view, that was the best I could come up with.

As I know Bush, on his point of view, is having a hard time to make it work, and he also knows that his ideas aren´t perfect.

You all have your opinions too. I never intended to say you´re wrong and I´m right. So, I´m sorry if it may have sounded this way. Don´t wanna sound the owner of the truth, Mr Perfection.

[Lechium]

Oh yeah once 9/11 came up.... dont you think that Osama might have lied that 9/11 is his creation (and in the beginning he DENIED it, but few people seem to rember it), so he would become a hero for milllions of people, and therefore would be financed better, get recruits easier and eventually become a martyr and go to heaven? Dont you think that people who benefeted form 9/11 are: BUSH, who's shitty economical program is overlooked now, and all he can talk about are evil doers, LOCKHEED MARTIN and other military production companies, who got more money pouring in than ever, and are strongly related to Republican party... hell think about it Bush is very likeley to get reelected, while if there was no 9/11 he'd be hated now and woudl have no chance whatsoever.... I'm not pointing fingers but 9/11 has made ruling elite stronger than ever. Go figure.

P.S. Oh yeah and whole country had turned "patriotic" all of a sudden. They run around saying they're proud to be Americans and wave their flags, although they dont seem know how their beloved country fucks smaller ones on daily baisis. And all the flags are making me sick, cuz they cost like $50 each, although it costs like 1/10th of a penny to make them in a sweatshop. If flag producing companies where as partiotic as they claim to be, wouldnt they sell flags at very low price, just to cover their expences?

[Bridge of Clay]

"it´s all a conspiracy, dude! there´s no bin laden... wtc? hollywood´s best special effects..."

[Lechium]

Hehe... well conspiracy is a posobility. Or more likely that Bush & Co. knew it was commign but did not stop it on purpuse.

[Mulletman]

no i have not heard of flex-fuel, but rest assure, i will probably be researching it later tonight so i can prove my point on why we should "nuke the holy land" for the oil. (100k points, anybody?)

yes osama might have lied, and omasa might be a mexican immigrant getting paid to take the heat. he has attacked before, he funded the bombing of the USS Cole, bombing of US embassy's in Africa, and oh yea... he hit the twin towers once before. what did clinton do? nothing, all he did was send a few tomahawk missiles. the most powerful man in the world, a rogue scholar, one of the better and by far the smartest president with country has had and will probably ever have, did nothing. he could of put an end to this, but instead he fucked the fat chick and debated the word "is". which if you remember he also tried to attack saddam, he threatened to start a "pretend" war durring the heat of the monica scandle.
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Bush attacked saddam first for invading Kuwait, Clinton wanted a pretend war so he can get more head, and GW is doing it for...God only knows.....
wow, Iraq went from being our ally to being everyones bitch pretty fast...

do you remember the cold war? the fear of nuclear holocaust from the solviets. these people wanted us dead and now they are our allies, most of them in this war. if you remember Iraq was our ally, before he invaded Kuwait. hell, saddam was a CIA op. is war the anwer? no its not. but a change in its leadership is.


the honest thruth is... our views are all different, we all benefit from different things. Clinton's health plan was flawless, his economic surplus was great but that didnt help me one bit. i could easily sit here and trash him, but i dont, cause i respect the man. coming from a family with much power (<~~~ hence the mafia theme) i stand behing this administration. i have family in this administration, i have family in other foriegn governments and if things go as planned i too will be a "tool of government oppression". bush is not the smartest man, he might not be the best for this country, but neither was Al Gore. that man went from being a well respected person to being the biggest pussy i have ever seen. he lost, whether it was fair or not, he lost. he could of been a man about it but he chose not to. had he been the bigger person, he would be on next years ticket with a guarunteed victory. even i wonder if McKain was a better candidate....

[Bridge of Clay]

oh, yeah... why should we save lifes? let them bomb everywhere and everybody... (the terrorrists).

It can happen anywhere else... like when they destroyed Israel´s office in Argentina...

I hope human race didn´t reach that point yet, Lechium...

and I also hope you, despite bitter, were just kidding.

Mullet, 100k points to me! you said holy land coz that region appears in the Bible right?

btw, how would you answer your own questions? just curious!

[Xterminator27]

Quote:

Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°

I hope human race didn´t reach that point yet, Lechium... &nbsp;

weve not only reached that, but have gone far past it.....

[Lechium]

2N30°14'?.7 W84°: What point? Of sacrificing yoru own people for profit and political power? Been there for ages. During WW2 after allies has cracked german secret code they had decoded a transmition that small British town will get heavily bombed, and teh time it will happen. They knew that if they evac people from there, Germans will figure out that code was cracked and change it to a new one. So Churchill (or however hsi names is spelled) had let all these people in that town die just for sake of politics, hopeing more inportant transmitions will get intersepcted. And there are a lot of cases like that. Power corrupts.

[jango]

How has Saddam proven any more of a threat to global stability than say... Israel? or North Korea for that matter?

The economy: You don't rape the economy with big business in the first place coughenroncoughcheneycough. That's a start. Second, you don't make ineffective tax cuts permanent. Third, you don't rape the frickin' economy after your predecessor stabilized it. Don't throw the 9/11 bull around, because it didn't have the global effect everyone touts. It just didn't.

Iraq: Colin Powell had the situation firmly under control before 9/11. You impose enough sanctions to keep the country worried, and work closely with UN weapons inspectors and such, to ensure that nothing comes out. You don't use public opinion and newfound support to gain grounds for a war. Bush may have a war on terror, but it's terrorism that's going to get him reelected.

North Korea: If any country should be dealt with, it's North Korea. Let's see, you have one country with nukes but no oil, you have one country with no nukes but the second largest supply of oil. Hmm?

[Mulletman]

no the 100K points are still up for grab, no one has yet to mention the SUV plug.....

how would i handle this...?

well before i answer that i have to tell you what you dont know.
1 - i am under heavy amounts of anti-psychotic medication.
2 - i am generally a sweet guy, a push over if you will, but when i snap, i snap, and you die.
3 - i know my shit. before i open my mouth, i research it. if i dont say anything about it, its because i dont know much about it. id rather keep my mouth shut then risk saying something stupid.
4 - i am stubborn. i will take abuse, no matter how hurtful, i will take it and come back for more.
5 - can be an asshole, and i dont mean like your brother, i mean a huge (porno) asshole. (pun intended)

putting me as the leader of the free world would be like voting Hannibal Lector as King. i can make Bush look like a political genius. you have one chance to impress me, that chance last 3 seconds.

terrorism
if that were me in the florida school being told that the twin towers had been hit by terrorist the first words out of my mouth would of been "launch the nukes". end of story.

Iraq
no one needs to send a whole and risk many lives. all it takes is one bullet.
(yes i know i am playing the solid snake deal. no need pointing that out)

North Korea
kill it from the inside. support the allies we have around that area and make sure that if they want to continue with thier program, there will be consequences.

The Economy
i have no opinion on that. i have no ideas on that. all i know is that its shitless and that the technology companies need a big boost...... or i will have to make a career change.

[Bridge of Clay]

hmmmm...

the lyrics of "In America" really fit here...

[creedfan47a]

Quote:

Originally posted by N30°14'?.7 W84°
speaking on the Bible:

do you remember Babylon ??? That country on Bible which was always creating troubles and wars against everybody else? well... today, Iraq is located where Babylon used to be, years ago.

Are you sure about this? I thought that when Babylon was destroyed, that the area would be a pile of ruins forever - no city would be built on the same place. I might be wrong, but that's what I thought.

[Bridge of Clay]

I know that Babylon was where today is Iraq... but I don´t know if they built a city over it... Iraq has a lot of deserts...

[HigherGirl]

I kinda agree with JulieLovesCreed..I think this mess all started with Bush's father and Desert Storm...I really don't want war, But at the same time, I believe Saddam will do something terrible to us if we don't stop him now, He is a bully, and if he's not messing with the U.S....then he's always messing with somebody else, I don't think he's happy unless he's causing some kind of trouble..

[Siana]

yeah,G.Bush had to finish the war with that Desert Storm...At least then Saddam was the agressor,now US seems to be the 1...
Now only the small countries support USA against Iraq coz they just want to become NATO members (Bulgaria too).
Yesterday it was reported that the 1st US planes arrived at Sarafovo (a military base at Black sea)... It 's getting really serious....Our government will also send troops in Iraq,OMG...
I just wonder about 1 thing too-why haven't the overrated CIA and FBI killed Saddam years ago???
Now there will be a war coz of 1 person,not coz Iraq's ppl