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Old 10-12-2005, 04:06 PM   #1
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Bush!

Hi, I'm from Sweden, some of you might think of spolarbears when you hear "Sweden", I know Bush does; some of you might think of Victoria Silvsted when you hear "Sweden", I know Bush does; Some of you might think of me after this thread when you hear "Sweden", don't think Bush will though, hes never here. Now why do you claim all of this stuff, the answere is simple, Bush's an ashole! How come some might think, I'll tell you "Fool me once, you can fool me twice... Fool me... One... Never... Me..." or "50% of all improtation (or what ever it's called) come from out of America"... Didn't America listen to More? Didn't they realise that Bush is an idiot? Haven't they been thinking? HELLO! IRAK! Or all of the other shit! What have Bush done to you? Don't ask youself what you can do to your country, ask what your country can do for you and make it do it! Thats the only way!
(Not claiming that any one here on this bord is a "Busher" just fellt to say this)
Some one please go to the CIA and tell them what I have done! My adress is

Danahovsvägen 2C
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Send it to David Holman!

Pleas! I ask you! Would love to see what they'll do!
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:17 PM   #2
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Yeah, I'm with you! Bush is a fucking asshole who has cost the world nothing but problems ever since he was born!

And no, America hasn't been listening enough to Moore! Sadly, very many here are Bushers. And a whole bunch aren't.

I wouldn't be too shocked if this thread was closed down. It will only start fights for no reason, and I know at least Steve supports Bush. (I like Steve, I just don't like Bush).

Anyway! I totally agree with you. And the rest of Sweden agrees with us. I've never met anyone here in Sweden who doesn't dislike him
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:31 PM   #3
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Thankfully, no one is listening to Moore, he is a retard.

Yes, Bush is a total moron with less intelligence than a mole.

But exactly why is someone from Sweden insulting our president like crazy? Just curious...
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:36 PM   #4
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Yes... liberating Afghanistan from the hash rule of the Al-Qaeda supporting Taliban is a bad thing. Yes... freeing millions of Iraqis from the mass genocide of Saddam Hussein is a bad thing. Giving people in Iraq and Afghanistan the right to democratically pick who they want to lead their countries is a bad thing. The elections in Iraq and Afghanistan have influenced nations like Lebanon, Egypt, Ukraine, and Georgia to take their nations into their own hands. Apparently having a foreign policy designed to end global Islamic terror is a bad thing. America doesn't listen to Michael Moore for a reason. He makes claims and consistently fails to provide ANY proof. If anyone is a liar, it's him. He's one of the reasons why more people voted Republican and opposed to Democrat. Let me ask you this: What has your Pime Minister, Hans Göran Persson, contributed to international security? Where was Sweden in World War II? Where was Sweden when the Soviet Union was sweeping through Europe? Sweden was neutral in World War I and World War II. How the hell can a country be neutral against the rise of National Socialism in Germay? How can a country not have an opinion on Adolf Hitler? Sweden is an isolationist nation that has no altuism within it's political boundries and policies. It's nice to see Sweden NOT contributing to the tsunami victims in Asia or the earthquake victims in Pakistan. Sweden appears as a self-centered Soclialist nation, not willing to do anything while it's neighbors or international partners are under attack. Carl XVI Gustaf is also an irrelevant monarch on the global scale, he's no Queen Elizabeth... a monarch who is actually a revered monarch throughout the world. So, next time you want to bad mouth America for actually saving Europe (from the Nazis and the Soviets) or trying to thwart Islamic fundamentalism... ask yourself this: What has Sweden done for the world?
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:50 PM   #5
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) America doesn't listen to Michael Moore for a reason. He makes claims and consistently fails to provide ANY proof. If anyone is a liar, it's him.
When Farenhait 9/11 opened Moore said that anyone who could find one lie or one false statement should get 10,000 US Dollars... He never had to pay anyone anything...

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) What has your Pime Minister, Hans Göran Persson, contributed to international security?
Pretty much nothing, I think. But at least he hasn't totally destroied it like Bush has by bombing who ever he wants to get some Goddamn oil!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Where was Sweden in World War II? Where was Sweden when the Soviet Union was sweeping through Europe? Sweden was neutral in World War I and World War II. How the hell can a country be neutral against the rise of National Socialism in Germay?
I'm sorry man, I guess I wasn't alive back then, since I'm only turning 17 in December. I can't recall being too much in to politic by that time either... Maybe it's because you are using examples over 50 years old that has nothing to do with the fact that Bush is an idiot.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Carl XVI Gustaf is also an irrelevant monarch on the global scale
I hate that man and his family, they take our, just because they have a different lastname! It's time for Sweden to move on and get a president.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:56 PM   #6
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To be fairly honest, I've somewhat renounced my support of Bush in recent months. But Roffe, you really don't say much of why you dislike him so much. You do mention Iraq, but then seem to insinuate that the extreme liberal views of a Hollywood filmmaker (whose credits also include "Bowling for Columbine") should be fully realized & shared by the majority of Americans.
Additionally, you call him stupid. While he might not be the greatest public speaker, and perhaps not the quickest on the draw, he's still fairly intelligent. Regardless of familial connections, he has more degrees from an Ivy League schools than, I would assume, anyone on here. Furthermore, you say he never goes to Sweden? I'll accept that as fact, but I ask you why he would want to go to Sweden? Not to be an asshole, but is your country of very significant geopolitical importance? He, above all, is a politician, and if he feels that Russia or Britain are more important than Sweden, then he'd be more inclined to visit them.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) But Roffe, you really don't say much of why you dislike him so much.
I could go on for days saying things I dislike 'bout him. But I've been there, done that. I think Chase already know what I think of that man!

Quote: (Originally Posted by RMadd) Not to be an asshole, but is your country of very significant geopolitical importance?
I wouldn't say very, but dude. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fact that everyone in this country hates him.
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:20 PM   #8
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Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) I wouldn't say very, but dude. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fact that everyone in this country hates him.
I'm pretty sure that's a fairly unbased conclusion. Believe it or not, presidents still meet with foreign leaders despite their popularity (or lack thereof) in that country. Sure, they might not go out on the streets and kiss babies and take pictures with old women. As an international leader, he, more than likely, would ever show up there to discuss matters of mutual interest, and it's pretty obvious that Sweden isn't much for being heavily involved in global politics. That's why you guys are on his proverbial back-burner. Not because you don't like him. If that were the case, then would he ever go to Europe again?
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:18 PM   #9
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First i dont know the reasons the guy started this trhead about Bush but I think he has the right to say he dislike Bush, and its true, a lot ot foreigns dislike him (because his foreign politicy!)what no means dislike or disrespect american people...Need to say that because the last time it caused a true polemic on board.

And we foreigners can voice our opinion about it, cause US foreign policy clearly spreads to the whole world. So what Bush does/decides has a repercution here in South America or Europe or Asia.

And I even know americans guys that dislike Bush and admitted his foreign policy is an error, invading Iraq is an huge error...everyone can see it and dont tell me that it was to save the iraquian people or because the chemicals weapons Sadam had ...I cant believe that still exist people who believe on it.

Also no one here who is against Bush is giving support to Sadam or Bin Laden or to terrorists. No way.

But Id like to know WHY some americans guys are so ARROGANT saying things like waht 'Sweden did for the world'? Its the same of saying this country has no importance, because its not US... 'we did a lot of things'...by the way, things can be good or bad... Depends in what place of the world you are...

By the way, Bush is going to visit Brazil next month and Im not very happy because of it... and before some guy asks wahts the importance of this visit to my modest country I can say we have an huge importance on economics in South America and Bush knows it, since we are economics partners and a big market to american products.

Just to finish I didnt understand why Moore is a retarded or something like someone said (not sure who said it-sorry). I loved Bowling for Columbine even though I didnt see Fareheinht yet.
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:55 PM   #10
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To begin, I'd like to discust this even if some badmouthing will occure it's fun and I'm not one to judge someone by their politics in when I'm discusting music with them So PLEASE keep this post open!

Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) I hate that man and his family, they take our, just because they have a different lastname! It's time for Sweden to move on and get a president.

I don't hate our king, he's just stupid, luckly he's not running this country, but a president! NO WAY! I'm more of a commie (yeah! Come on! Hate me! )

Now RMadd, Göran Persson and Bush have met severaltimes to discust the issues of the world and what our goverment whants Bush and America to do.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Where was Sweden in World War II? Where was Sweden when the Soviet Union was sweeping through Europe? Sweden was neutral in World War I and World War II. How the hell can a country be neutral against the rise of National Socialism in Germay? How can a country not have an opinion on Adolf Hitler?

What our country did in WW1 I have no idea... Perhaps we were to small and didn't have an amry great enough to be of any help. In WW2 the people wern't awear of what was going on at the other side of the world (or germany in for that matter), Hitler did fool the world, he foold EVERYONE! Even America who just got in to the war at the end! WHEN THEY WERE ATTACKED! Not 'couse they were good, but becouse they were attacked. In WW1 you still had some good ideas of what a country should do but I belive it got lost some were on the way. Why Sweden weren't attacked and therefor not brought into the war was becous of our mines! Hitler wanted to attack us but couldn't had he England would have bombed our oremines (belive it's called that) up in Norrland ("Northland", up high), and that's why! I can regreattly say that some people in Sweden, or a very large part of the Swedish people thought that the Soviet were good and that they were our friends. And there still is, idiots if you ask me!
WE HAVE AN OPINION ON HITLER! HE SUCKED!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Apparently having a foreign policy designed to end global Islamic terror is a bad thing.

Yeah! How good of you to claim that the "global ISLAMIC terror" is a bad thing since there aint any, EVERYONE in islam, or all of those who aren't brainwashed know that that aint Islamic belife. Muslims must praise life and can't take their or anyone elses life! Now you know!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) Sweden is an isolationist nation that has no altuism within it's political boundries and policies

WHAT! Look whos talking! My moms an american you know! So I have some ideas of how america is! My granmothers sister calles us during the Olympics to know who made firstplace since they didn't show that on TV, they showed that america came third! YEAH! Isolated! And not to talk about all of the threats like "The computers will go down at year 2k, the computers will go mad!" THE ONLYONES WHO BOUGHT THAT SHIT SYSTEM THINGI WAS AMERICANS WHO BELIVED IT! And not to mention all of the false threats that media tells you are troue! They're not! It's lies!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) It's nice to see Sweden NOT contributing to the tsunami victims in Asia or the earthquake victims in Pakistan. Sweden appears as a self-centered Soclialist nation, not willing to do anything while it's neighbors or international partners are under attack

Heard of Bono? He's the singer in U2! He praise Sweden for it's politics! Okey! Bush hates it when Bono talkes about Sweden! Who told you Sweden wern't doing anything after the tsunami? I can say this... WE DIDN'T DO MUCH NO! But have the goverment been eating that! I know a famiy that I train karate with and they were there when the tsunami came, fortunatly they all survived, but they started their own foundation for the tsunami victims! The goverment have hopefully learnd from their mistakes!
I'm not that well informed when it comes to the earthquake but I'm not shure were doing to much witch can be becouse of the storm that costed the goverment millions, it struck at the westcoste and it was like a tornado the storm was called gurdun and were not that rich and we had no preperations for this kind of thing since this happen so rearly! The storm struck just months after the tsunami!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rmadd) To be fairly honest, I've somewhat renounced my support of Bush in recent months. But Roffe, you really don't say much of why you dislike him so much. You do mention Iraq, but then seem to insinuate that the extreme liberal views of a Hollywood filmmaker (whose credits also include "Bowling for Columbine") should be fully realized & shared by the majority of Americans.

I hate him for making a bad country worse! I don't like american politics since no commies are allowed! I have never seen any other political side then that of the liberals...
Quote: (Originally Posted by Bush) God is on our side!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gore) I humbly hope god is on our side!

Now I'm a christian myself and I can't say that there sais anywhere in the new testament that god will support you in war on that god will be on your side when you go to war, havn't didn't he say that he will be on our side in love?

OT: Met an american last year on a train and he said "you can't say that you like Bush here, you'll be killed", that's how much we hate him though there are some Bushers here to they're not that many!

Almost forgot! A Swedish citiznes (don't know the word, he comes from Irak) flead from Irak becouse he was politacly active and the gov (saddam) didn't like this. Now after that America have invaded Irak he said to his children and family "lets go to Irak, your herritage kids! And you'll see how much better it is after the good americans invaded it!", so they wen't down there and they had the camera and all to take pictures and a guard told them that it was iligal to take photos so they took him to the station to hear him out and had a bah over his head so he couldn't see anything and they tourtured him. He remembered an american walking in to the room and watched this! just looked at it! Didn't do a thing!

Have Irak become better? Don't think so! Bush just want to get a hold of the oil!

And how can you support him when he's one of the G8 leaders! PINK FLOYD REUNITED SO THAT THEY WOULD GIVE MONEY TO POOR! Pink Floyd man! That couldn't have happened any other way!

Now RMadd, why love America and Bush!
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:07 PM   #11
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Just wanted to argue a bit! Anna4Stapp!
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You know Roffe its amazing the way some people here seems to have enough knowledge to even 'judge' others countries politics but definitely dislike when foreigners do the same with US foreign policy...
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I don't give a flying rats ass about what you think of Bush! Your not from this country,so who cares what you think
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:08 PM   #14
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WOW!!! Whats your problem, Julie? Are you telling me to shut my mouth just because Im not from your country???? Who said you can do that? You know democracy?

I think you just dont understand how politics works...By the way if you dont care what I think about Bush or politics...WHY you are here?

Just to you know...Bush foreign policy gives us (no american people like Lith, Roffe...) the right to say our opinion, because like I said 'what Bush does spreads all over the world', you know?

Im SICK of your agressive replies to my posts on the political banter! Because everytime I posted something about it (because I LOVE politics!) you came with this kind of answer -last time I recall you asking the mods to close the thread after I gave my opinion, but thanks God the mods here are not closed mind people as you seem to be... but you know wahts funny i dont recall you saying your opinions...

And even Chase who has enormous different political visions that I have is much more respectful than you. And I respect him cause he always says his opinion, but I NEVER saw him just saying someone to shut the mouth out because the person is not from US.

Its just... IGNORANCE !!!!
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Quote: I hate him for making a bad country worse!

I am no Bush lover but you just totally lost my support. The United States of America is the the greatest darn thing to happen to the world in the last 500 years. We practically forced the world into the majorly democratic place it is today. Let me ask you how many major democratic countries were there before the U.S.? Hmmm... let's see. Can't think of any.

So after pushing the world into mostly democracy (oh, that's right, your a communist. You want Stalin back so he can gas all his own people), we then SAVE the darn world from Nazis, and still no one is appreciative. You know what would have happened without the U.S. in WWII? Any intelligent person alive can tell you. YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN. We sacrificed our own lives to save Europe's sorry butt and sometimes I wonder why we did.

The U.S. is the most powerful country in the world. Anything we wanted to do we could. We could impose our will on ANYONE. EVERY MAJOR STATE IN HISTORY with that kind of power has used it to conquer. From Alexander to Rome and beyond, those with power have used it to conquer. The U.S has not. If we wanted to we could take over your pitiful little country and impose our will on YOU. But do we? no. Because we aren't friggin commies like you apparently are.

So have we made mistakes? Duh. Electing Bush was a gigantic one. Randomly invading a country for no reason at all was a worse one. But what would your country know about mistakes? It never DOES anything so how can it ever make MISTAKES since it never DOES ANYTHING?!

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