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Old 03-11-2004, 07:46 PM   #76
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Luke4488) I dont believe you people understand what 'separation of church and state' really means. Our forefathers meant it to mean that the state cannot tell you what religion you have to be. It doesnt mean that religion should be illegal in school or public places. Our country was founded on Christianity. Those people that use separation of church and state as a way to eliminate God from the pledge of allegiance, or to have the Bible removed from courthouses, are ignorant to the meaning of the phrase they are using. And if the state and the church are separated, why does the church have to pay state and federal taxes?

Adding on to what Luke has posted here, give this a read:

http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:49 PM   #77
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Adding on to what Luke has posted here, give this a read:

http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
hmm... interesting, indeed
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:50 PM   #78
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Agreed. The government should allow the same rights married couples have to civil unions.

...which includes marriage!!!


Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) That way gay people have the same physical rights as straight people do.

What do you exactly mean by "physical rights" ??? I didn't understand that part totally.
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:51 PM   #79
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Adding on to what Luke has posted here, give this a read:

http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html

Thanks Steve!
Very interesting. Well written too.
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:52 PM   #80
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Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) What do you mean by "physical rights" ??? I didn't understand that part exACTLY.

Married people get tax incentives... If you are admitted to a hospital room, only family is allowed in the room in certain circumstances... etc. etc. etc. That is what I was referring to as "physical rights."
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:55 PM   #81
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Luke4488) And if the state and the church are separated, why does the church have to pay state and federal taxes?

When the state and church were one... it would be a bit strange if that institution would pay state and federal taxes to itself, wouldn't it???
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:57 PM   #82
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Married people get tax incentives... If you are admitted to a hospital room, only family is allowed in the room in certain circumstances... etc. etc. etc. That is what I was referring to as "physical rights."

Ok I get it! Thnx for explaining Steve... I took it too literally in my translation!
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Old 03-11-2004, 08:00 PM   #83
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Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) I took it too literally in my translation!
for some odd reason, i'm grossed out by that
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Quote: Generally speaking, they're called "Democrats", and I have come to accept their existence (believe it or not!!!).


LMAO...that's a very narrow view. I don't agree with you most of the time, but I'm not a Democrat. Why does everything you discuss always turn into labeling and stereotyping people?
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Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) When the state and church were one... it would be a bit strange if that institution would pay state and federal taxes to itself, wouldn't it???

But if the church and state are separated, the church shouldnt have to pay taxes to anyone.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by BearFan) for some odd reason, i'm grossed out by that

You are???? Seriously??? How come that that doesn't surprise me? LOL!!!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Luke4488) But if the church and state are separated, the church shouldnt have to pay taxes to anyone.

Why not??? When you put it that way... then no one has to pay taxes!!! Am I right?
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Luke4488) But if the church and state are separated, the church shouldnt have to pay taxes to anyone.
that's an interesting thought, but it just doesn't fly... sorry.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) They're just as much entitled to have the same rights as straight women and straight men! If not, than that's pure discrimination... just like when women weren't allowed to vote about 100 years ago!

Hey! I've used the wrong word on that... I meant discrimination instead of racism! Sorry! My bad...
Hahahaha Shame On U...I CANT SPELL EITHER ONE and im wondering like now if i spelled either right~~~Some one stop i have no shame
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Quote: (Originally Posted by creedsister) Hahahaha Shame On U...I CANT SPELL EITHER ONE and im wondering like now if i spelled either right~~~Some one stop i have no shame


Rub it in sis...
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Quote: (Originally Posted by WeatheredWoman) Rub it in sis...
Hehehe!!! but did i spell either right
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