What do you think of the "war" against Iraq?

[TeriB19]

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Originally posted by Anonymous
if u do noit respond, I and everyone else here will consider you a nothing. u have done nothing to prove that your way of thinking is correct so do so.

Who are you to speak for "everyone else here"? Dogstar has been posting here for ages, you've just come onto the board. You cannot speak for anyone but yourself, and I would appreciate if you'd learn that quick. At this point, you are the only one here that is considered a "nothing" with your blanket statements and your bashing a regular member. You may want to stick around awhile and learn the ropes, or you may want to leave, your choice. But DO NOT speak for me or for anyone else on this bb.

[Bridge of Clay]

liberals rock! I mean, they´re better than communists and leftists, right?

But dude, once you´re new to a place, go easy... not the way you just did otherwise you´re gonna cause trouble. I hope that´s not your intention.

I´ll tell you something:
The so called proofs that Colin Powell presented didn´t convince the rest of the world nor a share of America.

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the republicans are not driven by power as the democrats are

what????????? are you blind? once you´re a politician, you´re driven by power. it doesn´t matter the part you´re in. and to non-americans, your statement above seems very far to what is happening today.

I don´t remember people protesting against Clinton as they protest again Bush. I do think he may have rushed the war, I do think diplomacy is the best way, but learning the point of view of some people here really made me think twice about the war. Maybe it´s necessary, indeed.

But I think before bombing, US should have worked more in getting other nations´ support. You said a war won´t cause more trouble, just think: bombing Iraq will breed and increase the hate for USA in Middle-East, more people will be willing to die for a cause (or what they call "holy war")so more terrorist attacks may happen, more innocent people will die and you if Saddam is ousted, a even worse person MAY get his place... just for the record: no, I dislike Saddam too and I agree his a dictator.

[Dogstar]

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what????????? are you blind? once you´re a politician, you´re driven by power. it doesn´t matter the part you´re in. and to non-americans, your statement above seems very far to what is happening today

[souldancer]

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Originally posted by Anonymous
convince me that you are right. you have not told me anything.  
if u do noit respond, I and everyone else here will consider you a nothing. u have done nothing to prove that your way of thinking is correct so do so.

WOW..is there any doubt that this a@@ is for war - proven with his vile words and presumptious remarks - with demands and power play on a rock band bulletin board?! Facts don't mean shit -without knowing sources. And, who do you think you are that we have to prove anything to you - and calling us 'nothing'! Individuals here have expressed a range of views and opinions based on their backgrounds and values - I respect that - but I have NO respect for self-righteous posters that spout off their adolescent 'prove this' mentality. Your nasty remarks to my fellow CFers are not appreciated. What brought you to this board anyway? I don't feel I need to prove my way of thinking is correct - because it is only mine. There is no correct one. But, my voice says power to the people for critical free thinking and action - and be wary of the real terrors in this country which are apathy and people acting like sheep! You can go ahead and give me a friggin label - a democrat, green, liberal, independent, leftist, hipppy, conservative, socialist - I don't care about labels.
Excuse me while I go listen to Ode...

[Dogstar]

Damn, SD, you said it!!!

[Sheila63]

Way to go, souldancer!!!

[Bridge of Clay]

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Originally posted by creedfan63
Way to go, souldancer!!!

all right!

[Siana]

Anonymous-do you know the great difference between the diplomacy led by Clinton and the 1 by Bush?Bush use diplomacy as a way to war.This is my opinion,sorry,don't wanna offend any1,but Bush is US's worst president

[John 3:16]

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Originally posted by souldancer
????...
Jesus was one of the great peacemakers - and talked about building bridges....
I believe that human beings, this day and age CAN find other ways IF they choose to.

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Be Subject to Government

1 Every (1) person is to be in (2) subjection to the governing authorities. For (3) there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
3 For (4) rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same;
4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an (5) avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also (6) for conscience' sake.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing.
7 (7) Render to all what is due them: (8) tax to whom tax is due; (9) custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor

[SCOTTSMYMAN]

Have to agree with Siana on Bush. Thought I was the only one besides my hubby. It's like he's trying to make up for his fathers mistakes.

[Xterminator27]

Bush blows,
America could do great thinsg with its 300 Trillion Bucks a year, Much better things than maken bombs and jets... things like, solving world hungar.

[souldancer]

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Originally posted by Xterminator27
America could do great thinsg with its 300 Trillion Bucks a year, Much better things than maken bombs and jets... things like, solving world hungar.

Damn right!

[souldancer]

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Originally posted by John 3:16
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I don't know how to quote the Bible - it's interpretated in many ways and translated in a different time, culture, and language. I believe that Jesus was a great teacher who modeled love, peace and forgiveness.

But, I can stretch, so just once, for you, I did browse and found that I related with James 3:13-18.

"Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? Let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descends not from above, but is earthly, sensual and devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is the first, pure , then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace."

[Bridge of Clay]

Last night, I was watching the news on TV. A channel sent some reporters to Iraq.

They showed a guy with Brazil´s soccer team jersey, which I thought it was pretty cool. I mean, they´re in Iraq, right? (not the team...) Then they interviewed some kids, they knew the names of all players who won the World Cup, last year. Even the ones who aren´t that famous. I was astonished (sp?).

I´m so sorry for those people and kids. I thought they live in a completely separated world, but I was wrong. I do agree they´re brainwashed about some matters. They suffer a lot.

I keep thinking Saddam should be ousted, but I´m sorry it´s impossible in a war that a innocent doesn´t die. Poor fellows, they have no guilty.

[jango]

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Ok, i am new to this site so work w/ me here. this is going to be long, but i have great points. read this. btw this anonymous speaking. send feed back.


--  anonymous

The dumb rat bastard revolution continues!!!

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Originally posted by Anonymous


it so ticks me off when people like all u out there say that going to was w/ iraq is the worst thing in the world. u say that bush only wants the oil and he only want to kill saddam because he is in the way of him getting the oil. B.S.!!!!!!!! If bush onoy wanted the oil, don'yt u think that he would have done it already?????!!!!!!!!!!11

Bush was born in oil, he had it spewing from his mouth when he was born. If it's not for oil, then answer me this: you are given two aggressive countries, one has no nukes but oil, the other has nukes but no oil. Who do you attack/bomb and who do you ignore? You're idiotic if you can't see this.

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Originally posted by Anonymous
B.S.!!!!!!! Bush has the best evidence in the world! saddam killed his own family!!!! his own people!!!!! he is a dictator and must be taken out. he treatens thw world w/ his arsonal and has not second thought about using them.

Bush has absolutely no proof. Just this past year, the CIA, and every other agency in the United States government deemed that Iraq posed no threat to the United States... at all. Ritter, a former UN inspector, has stated that Iraq poses NO threat. Bush has zero evidence for any claims. We cannot attack a country simply because they just might have weapons of mass destruction. Israel has done just about everything Iraq has, so should we attack them as well?

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Originally posted by Anonymous
all you say that bush is screwing around not getting the U.N.s approval. B.S.!!!!!! what has he been trying to do?!? the fact is that he does not need u.n. approval. all u liberals out there say that bush has to go about all the technicallities or else he just want to bomb iraq for his own gain.

Oh, so we don't care what the world thinks, we'll gladly alienate ourselves from our allies, all in the name of oil!

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Originally posted by Anonymous
oh btw, when Clinton went over to iraq and bomed them in the early '90s did he get u.n. approval? absolutely not. what about when he sent pour troops so bosnea? heck no. he never got u.n. approval. why do all u people bad - mouth bush when he gets u.n. approval, but cheer clinton on when he doesn't u.n. approval. u liberals and democrats contradict yourselves. it makes me sick!!!!!!!![/b]

Clinton had far more evidence and backing for what he did. Granted, it may have been hasty, but do two wrongs make a right? Not to mention, I don't know if I've said this yet, Bush has NO evidence. Conservatives so willing to kill innocent civilians makes me sick. "The only difference between a terrorist and freedom fighter is what side you're on."

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Originally posted by Anonymous
(btw if u havent guessed by now i am a republican and one w/ the facts.)

You have no facts. Sorry, try again.

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Originally posted by Anonymous
We have been doing that since the gulf war. What has come of it?????!!!!!!! nothing!!!!!!!!!! The only answer is to go and bomb them!!!!!!! saddam is a wicked man bent over his own pride. he actually thinks that is good to kill his own family and people!!!!!!!! what more evidence do you need?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]

Here's the lack of facts. Prior to 9/11, Colin Powell had masterfully engineered a system and philosophy to contain Iraq, that was working wonderfully. Following 9/11, Bush uses his newfound popularity, contrives lies and deceives the American people, screwing up Powell's work. Get your facts straight before you post your opinions, please, I don't have time for this.

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Originally posted by Anonymous
krzycreedbabe said that the war in iraq is only going to cause more problems. email me and tell me what problems. by getting rid of saddam, he will make this world more peacefull.

No, no it won't. By doing so, we disrupt the Middle East to a disturbing degree, as if it weren't volatile enough! Not only that, we put what allies we do have in the area at serious risk. Diplomacy prevents this from happening.

Think before you post.