[Discuss] Stapp on Leno - Page 5

RMadd · 11-26-2005, 10:44 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) As for the good moments, I liked his trick with the mic stand, interacted with the whole band and still showed his awesome stage performance. The guy is a master of the stage presence art.

I'll agree with you there, but qualify that by saying that his hand motions (the grabbing, pounding, wiping, etc) did get a bit old after seeing them a few times...

Trimontana · 11-27-2005, 09:51 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT) Wow, he has really gone downhill.

Those poses... the inability to sing like he used to... it's laughable. He gives himself way too much credit and thinks he's the bomb. Guess what, Scott? It's not 1999 anymore! Your act is old & tired. Time to hang it up and save the little bit of face you have left.

I loved your comment. I think pretty much the same

Muad'Dib · 11-27-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) He forgot a few words, but I assume he was a bit nervous. And he had to sing some parts an octave lower when comparing to the album. Those were the flaws.

As for the good moments, I liked his trick with the mic stand, interacted with the whole band and still showed his awesome stage performance. The guy is a master of the stage presence art.

He'll be very successful. Most people don't care if he can sing like the album live, they'll go to have fun and listen the catchy songs they hear on radio. Stapp delivers it.

Agree with probably all of this, was great to see him perform again. Some of it was over the top but was enjoyable performance. He looked happy too which is always a good thing. Hopefully his voice holds up like that throughout the tour.

rabidgopher04 · 11-28-2005, 11:54 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by johellion) I saw it... To me it sounded like Creed ... He was much more responsive( acted like they had something to do with it!!) with the band members....He was not like that with his so called brothers.( and this is early on )..all I can say... if anything...he (seems)to have matured and is gonna be more supportive of this band!!! Of course.. this is early in the game...Knowing Scott...time will tell...

As far as the music...Creedish again...He put on a good show( voice somewhat strained)...like I said (showed...to be supportive of the band...like close friends)...Band was good....but ..then again the sound was Creed!!! Scott needs to get his own sound, and make a change..mo

Stapp was always supportive of his bandmates. Didn't you see the video where he is practically humping Tremonti's leg on their first concert for Weathered on vh1?

Chris98GT · 11-28-2005, 12:03 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Trimontana) I loved your comment. I think pretty much the same

Oh BTW, thanks for putting the Papa Roach DVD in your signature. I was at the show they taped!!! I can't wait to get that DVD, I totally forgot about it. I hope I'm on it. They taped me a few times.

Chase · 11-28-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT)

Oh BTW, thanks for putting the Papa Roach DVD in your signature. I was at the show they taped!!! I can't wait to get that DVD, I totally forgot about it. I hope I'm on it. They taped me a few times.

I just find it funny that it's Papa Roach fans that are the adamant Stapp bashers. I mean... c'mon now... you guys want to talk about cheesy music?

Chris98GT · 11-28-2005, 03:27 PM

I'm a diehard Metallica fan. Alter Bridge is probably #2. Papa Roach isn't even in my top 10. Nice try though.

That "Scars" song does make me want to throw up though. Sorry Trimontana.

Trimontana · 11-28-2005, 05:02 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I just find it funny that it's Papa Roach fans that are the adamant Stapp bashers. I mean... c'mon now... you guys want to talk about cheesy music?

You are talking here without even known about Papa Roach past music style, without listened to their old records. I think is really funny how some people open the mouth and trying to give the impression they are a music experts classifiying music saying "cheesy" and die trying it.

Trimontana · 11-28-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT) I'm a diehard Metallica fan. Alter Bridge is probably #2. Papa Roach isn't even in my top 10. Nice try though.

That "Scars" song does make me want to throw up though. Sorry Trimontana.

No problem Chris.... Papa Roach is my fav band next to Alter Bridge.

Lets not steal the thread to Stappy

titan9 · 11-28-2005, 05:21 PM

I think Chase's problem is that two very negative Stapp critics are posting in the Stapp forum. His response was to fire back by making fun of their musical preferences. I agree that very negative Stapp critics would probably be best served ceasing to post in here, but I'm not sure I would have made a joke out of the band(s) they like.

Anyway, getting this thing back on topic, I really like Stapp's performance. The energy he showed was great. I can't wait to see him on Live with Regis and Kelly tomorrow.

Trimontana · 11-28-2005, 05:28 PM

Hey titan, i dont hate Stapp but i cant lie about what i think. I cant say i loved it when i didnt but i would never posted something about a band i dont a clue about.

titan9 · 11-28-2005, 08:45 PM

I think Chase does know a decent bit about PR, but he interprets them as being cheesy. Fair enough; I interpret bands like the Darkness as being cheesy. And I'm sure there are bands you think suck. It's all open to interpretation.

And, while I enjoy constructive criticism, no one can deny that there has been some flat out Stapp bashing that crosses the line between constructive criticism and down-right bashing. Maybe you're not doing that(I don't think you are), but there are others(and I won't name names) who are. And that irritates those of us who don't like bashing in this forum.

facelessmike · 11-28-2005, 09:05 PM

The Darkness is the cheesiest band ever!!!...whoops, now back to Stapp...

Ana4Stapp · 11-28-2005, 09:22 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) I think Chase does know a decent bit about PR, but he interprets them as being cheesy. Fair enough; I interpret bands like the Darkness as being cheesy. And I'm sure there are bands you think suck. It's all open to interpretation.

And, while I enjoy constructive criticism, no one can deny that there has been some flat out Stapp bashing that crosses the line between constructive criticism and down-right bashing. Maybe you're not doing that(I don't think you are), but there are others(and I won't name names) who are. And that irritates those of us who don't like bashing in this forum.

Actually there are people here who has nothing real to say, but who thinks bashing Stapp is "cool". And yes, Titan we dont need name names, cuz everyone here knows who they are...

Also, constructive criticism is always welcome, cuz I'm this case when I say I dislike RL or TGD...

titan9 · 11-28-2005, 09:31 PM

Exactly. You've stated that you dislike RL and TGD, you've said it in a respectful manner(and have offered some constructive criticism) and I accept that you don't like those songs. Like I've said before, I love constructive criticism. It's just the flatout bashing that gets to me.

11-26-2005, 10:44 PM	#61
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) As for the good moments, I liked his trick with the mic stand, interacted with the whole band and still showed his awesome stage performance. The guy is a master of the stage presence art. I'll agree with you there, but qualify that by saying that his hand motions (the grabbing, pounding, wiping, etc) did get a bit old after seeing them a few times... __________________

11-27-2005, 09:51 AM	#62
Trimontana USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,145 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT) Wow, he has really gone downhill. Those poses... the inability to sing like he used to... it's laughable. He gives himself way too much credit and thinks he's the bomb. Guess what, Scott? It's not 1999 anymore! Your act is old & tired. Time to hang it up and save the little bit of face you have left. I loved your comment. I think pretty much the same __________________ Papa Roach's Tobin Esperance: "If you're gonna wear makeup, it's not about looking pretty. It's gotta look like you've been up all night doing drugs."

11-27-2005, 10:28 AM	#63
Muad'Dib USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 748 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) He forgot a few words, but I assume he was a bit nervous. And he had to sing some parts an octave lower when comparing to the album. Those were the flaws. As for the good moments, I liked his trick with the mic stand, interacted with the whole band and still showed his awesome stage performance. The guy is a master of the stage presence art. He'll be very successful. Most people don't care if he can sing like the album live, they'll go to have fun and listen the catchy songs they hear on radio. Stapp delivers it. Agree with probably all of this, was great to see him perform again. Some of it was over the top but was enjoyable performance. He looked happy too which is always a good thing. Hopefully his voice holds up like that throughout the tour. __________________ I was watching this monkey, this monkey watching me Then I needed a friend, or some company Coz some days I just can’t flick the switch Some days my skin just isn’t so thick

11-28-2005, 12:03 PM	#65
Chris98GT USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 343 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Trimontana) I loved your comment. I think pretty much the same Oh BTW, thanks for putting the Papa Roach DVD in your signature. I was at the show they taped!!! I can't wait to get that DVD, I totally forgot about it. I hope I'm on it. They taped me a few times. __________________ Darker days seem to be what will always live in me.

11-28-2005, 03:27 PM	#67
Chris98GT USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 343 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	I'm a diehard Metallica fan. Alter Bridge is probably #2. Papa Roach isn't even in my top 10. Nice try though. That "Scars" song does make me want to throw up though. Sorry Trimontana. __________________ Darker days seem to be what will always live in me.

11-28-2005, 11:54 AM	#64
rabidgopher04 USER INFO » Status: A Melody Posts: 442 Joined: Mar 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by johellion) I saw it... To me it sounded like Creed ... He was much more responsive( acted like they had something to do with it!!) with the band members....He was not like that with his so called brothers.( and this is early on )..all I can say... if anything...he (seems)to have matured and is gonna be more supportive of this band!!! Of course.. this is early in the game...Knowing Scott...time will tell... As far as the music...Creedish again...He put on a good show( voice somewhat strained)...like I said (showed...to be supportive of the band...like close friends)...Band was good....but ..then again the sound was Creed!!! Scott needs to get his own sound, and make a change..mo Stapp was always supportive of his bandmates. Didn't you see the video where he is practically humping Tremonti's leg on their first concert for Weathered on vh1?

11-28-2005, 01:00 PM	#66
Chase USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,160 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT) Oh BTW, thanks for putting the Papa Roach DVD in your signature. I was at the show they taped!!! I can't wait to get that DVD, I totally forgot about it. I hope I'm on it. They taped me a few times. I just find it funny that it's Papa Roach fans that are the adamant Stapp bashers. I mean... c'mon now... you guys want to talk about cheesy music?

11-28-2005, 05:02 PM	#68
Trimontana USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,145 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chase) I just find it funny that it's Papa Roach fans that are the adamant Stapp bashers. I mean... c'mon now... you guys want to talk about cheesy music? You are talking here without even known about Papa Roach past music style, without listened to their old records. I think is really funny how some people open the mouth and trying to give the impression they are a music experts classifiying music saying "cheesy" and die trying it. __________________ Papa Roach's Tobin Esperance: "If you're gonna wear makeup, it's not about looking pretty. It's gotta look like you've been up all night doing drugs."

11-28-2005, 05:04 PM	#69
Trimontana USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,145 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris98GT) I'm a diehard Metallica fan. Alter Bridge is probably #2. Papa Roach isn't even in my top 10. Nice try though. That "Scars" song does make me want to throw up though. Sorry Trimontana. No problem Chris.... Papa Roach is my fav band next to Alter Bridge. Lets not steal the thread to Stappy __________________ Papa Roach's Tobin Esperance: "If you're gonna wear makeup, it's not about looking pretty. It's gotta look like you've been up all night doing drugs."

11-28-2005, 05:21 PM	#70
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	I think Chase's problem is that two very negative Stapp critics are posting in the Stapp forum. His response was to fire back by making fun of their musical preferences. I agree that very negative Stapp critics would probably be best served ceasing to post in here, but I'm not sure I would have made a joke out of the band(s) they like. Anyway, getting this thing back on topic, I really like Stapp's performance. The energy he showed was great. I can't wait to see him on Live with Regis and Kelly tomorrow. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-28-2005, 05:28 PM	#71
Trimontana USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,145 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Hey titan, i dont hate Stapp but i cant lie about what i think. I cant say i loved it when i didnt but i would never posted something about a band i dont a clue about. __________________ Papa Roach's Tobin Esperance: "If you're gonna wear makeup, it's not about looking pretty. It's gotta look like you've been up all night doing drugs."

11-28-2005, 08:45 PM	#72
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	I think Chase does know a decent bit about PR, but he interprets them as being cheesy. Fair enough; I interpret bands like the Darkness as being cheesy. And I'm sure there are bands you think suck. It's all open to interpretation. And, while I enjoy constructive criticism, no one can deny that there has been some flat out Stapp bashing that crosses the line between constructive criticism and down-right bashing. Maybe you're not doing that(I don't think you are), but there are others(and I won't name names) who are. And that irritates those of us who don't like bashing in this forum. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

11-28-2005, 09:31 PM	#75
titan9 USER INFO » Status: Bound and Tied Posts: 2,134 Joined: Dec 2004 Currently: Offline	Exactly. You've stated that you dislike RL and TGD, you've said it in a respectful manner(and have offered some constructive criticism) and I accept that you don't like those songs. Like I've said before, I love constructive criticism. It's just the flatout bashing that gets to me. __________________ Visit the 12 Stones Fan Community, 12stonesfans.com! Check out my friend's Music blog by here!

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