Staind-14 shades of grey

hide · 01-24-2004, 10:47 PM

I must admit I only just bought this album but its really good. I have no doubt that Aaron's voice has improved although perhaps they went a little overboard on the ballads. One song (the one about his daugter) is very WAWO like. "Layne" which I knew along with "Price to Play" is very touching and I think is a much better tribute then Pearl Jam's. Price to Play is the obvious radio hit and has a great hook. Perhaps next album they can retain the great melodies but no lose so much hardness.

Dogstar · 01-24-2004, 10:55 PM

I bought this one just for the Layne song...I really was kind of disappointed in it. They've just about abandoned the hard, kick-a** sound of Dysfunction, which I love...Mudshovel is the song that got me into them, and it remains one of my favorites of theirs. I really only listen to the Layne song on that CD...

I think it's hard to compare their Layne tribute to PJ's...I like PJ's because of the raw emotion of it. It seems Ed just recorded exactly what he was feeling at that time and I admire that. I also like Staind's, though, too. They performed it on one of the late-night talk shows just after the CD came out and it was really sweet. It was nice to see they abandoned the usual lets-play-the-hit-single-to-sell-more-CDs approach. I think Aaron really was hit hard by Layne's death.

hide · 01-24-2004, 11:19 PM

it was something personal not just to make a buck i feel! Ed's seems more raw and heartfelt but its not as listenable and attacking other singers at that time is perhaps not the greatest timing. "Layne" isn't "Price to Play" they could have made it a hit single if they wanted to. Bands have to grow I guess, as you grow as songwriters sometimes you lose that hardness. Hopefully they rediscover it next album. I love their ballads but there are probably too many on this album. That line in the song about his daughter "I'll always love you, the way a father should love his daughter" certainly makes me think.

facelessman · 01-24-2004, 11:53 PM

ive been meaning to get that, but im short on cash

Dogstar · 01-25-2004, 12:02 AM

Yeah, I agree, hide. I think both efforts were pretty sincere with regard to Layne. Boy, I miss his voice

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hayley · 01-25-2004, 12:44 AM

I only like "So Far Away" Well, I used to be in love with that song when it first came out, but now it's kinda old. Staind are okay, but I wouldn't buy any of their CD's.

RMadd · 01-25-2004, 03:07 PM

14 Shades is among my favorite 4 or 5 CD's... love it! Bought it around the time it came out (hard to believe that was already a good 8 mos. or so ago). Also hard to believe Fred Durst discovered these guys (thank God they cut ties w/ that cockmonger).

musicmind226 · 01-25-2004, 09:17 PM

Love it, alot of people seem to hate 14 shades. I think it shows alot of growth, meledy and such. The later half of the album I think is sonic ear candy. So it's more mellow and accesable.

Hey you can read my review on amazon.com, just look for [email protected].

Dogstar · 01-25-2004, 09:36 PM

I guess it's too mellow for me. I like their first one the best.

RMadd · 01-25-2004, 09:50 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) I guess it's too mellow for me. I like their first one the best.

"Tormented"?

Dogstar · 01-25-2004, 10:44 PM

The first major-label CD was Dysfunction, yes? That's the one to which I refer. I don't have Tormented.

RMadd · 01-25-2004, 11:34 PM

gotcha... Tormented ain't that great, anyhoo.

Agent D · 01-26-2004, 05:30 PM

I love this album. Personally, I think it's Staind's best work but that's just me.

RMadd · 01-27-2004, 12:01 AM

It's not just you... I thought Break the Cycle was fantabulous, but 14 Shades of Grey is even better.

Agent D · 01-28-2004, 10:50 AM

Haha cool. This album really is badass.

01-24-2004, 10:47 PM	#1
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Staind-14 shades of grey I must admit I only just bought this album but its really good. I have no doubt that Aaron's voice has improved although perhaps they went a little overboard on the ballads. One song (the one about his daugter) is very WAWO like. "Layne" which I knew along with "Price to Play" is very touching and I think is a much better tribute then Pearl Jam's. Price to Play is the obvious radio hit and has a great hook. Perhaps next album they can retain the great melodies but no lose so much hardness. __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

01-24-2004, 10:55 PM	#2
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I bought this one just for the Layne song...I really was kind of disappointed in it. They've just about abandoned the hard, kick-a** sound of Dysfunction, which I love...Mudshovel is the song that got me into them, and it remains one of my favorites of theirs. I really only listen to the Layne song on that CD... I think it's hard to compare their Layne tribute to PJ's...I like PJ's because of the raw emotion of it. It seems Ed just recorded exactly what he was feeling at that time and I admire that. I also like Staind's, though, too. They performed it on one of the late-night talk shows just after the CD came out and it was really sweet. It was nice to see they abandoned the usual lets-play-the-hit-single-to-sell-more-CDs approach. I think Aaron really was hit hard by Layne's death. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-24-2004, 11:19 PM	#3
hide USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 919 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	it was something personal not just to make a buck i feel! Ed's seems more raw and heartfelt but its not as listenable and attacking other singers at that time is perhaps not the greatest timing. "Layne" isn't "Price to Play" they could have made it a hit single if they wanted to. Bands have to grow I guess, as you grow as songwriters sometimes you lose that hardness. Hopefully they rediscover it next album. I love their ballads but there are probably too many on this album. That line in the song about his daughter "I'll always love you, the way a father should love his daughter" certainly makes me think. __________________ come on all you PJ loving Creeders come and look and also post at the busiest and funniest board around (excluding here of course LOL) http://forums.pearljam.com

01-25-2004, 12:02 AM	#5
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Yeah, I agree, hide. I think both efforts were pretty sincere with regard to Layne. Boy, I miss his voice ... __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-25-2004, 03:07 PM	#7
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	14 Shades is among my favorite 4 or 5 CD's... love it! Bought it around the time it came out (hard to believe that was already a good 8 mos. or so ago). Also hard to believe Fred Durst discovered these guys (thank God they cut ties w/ that cockmonger). __________________

01-25-2004, 09:36 PM	#9
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	I guess it's too mellow for me. I like their first one the best. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-25-2004, 09:50 PM	#10
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dogstar) I guess it's too mellow for me. I like their first one the best. "Tormented"? __________________

01-25-2004, 10:44 PM	#11
Dogstar Forum Diplomat USER INFO » Status: Young Grown Old Posts: 21,345 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	The first major-label CD was Dysfunction, yes? That's the one to which I refer. I don't have Tormented. __________________ Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

01-25-2004, 11:34 PM	#12
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	gotcha... Tormented ain't that great, anyhoo. __________________

01-26-2004, 05:30 PM	#13
Agent D USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,138 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	I love this album. Personally, I think it's Staind's best work but that's just me.

01-27-2004, 12:01 AM	#14
RMadd USER INFO » Status: Found The Real Posts: 10,546 Joined: Aug 2003 Currently: Offline	It's not just you... I thought Break the Cycle was fantabulous, but 14 Shades of Grey is even better. __________________

01-28-2004, 10:50 AM	#15
Agent D USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,138 Joined: Feb 2003 Currently: Offline	Haha cool. This album really is badass.

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