who cares about chart positions?

[creediscool17]

seriously... why do you care if creed is on charts like billboard or amazon or whatever. it doesn't mean anything. miley cyrus and the jonas brothers have had several number one hits... does that mean their good? the best bands these days do not occupy the charts, because they don't care about charts, they care about making good music. coldplay sells way more records than radiohead, yet they owe all their success to radiohead because their basically a cheap ripoff of them.

charts, sales, and publicity mean nothing now. like i said... miley cyrus. no matter what you find on creed about their chart positions or album sales just remember miley cyrus has at least doubled it, and im sure nickelback has as well, (and their terrible). lets just talk about the integrity of the music, that is fine enough for me.

[King Oropher]

I'd like to see the boys get more No.1s to add to the rest.
I feel Full Circle will go platinum.

[BSC]

May I just say Nickelback have only sold 30 millions records worldwide, whereas Creed have sold 35 million records worldwide.

Please get your facts straight before you post a thread criticising people's opinions.

[Tremontiriffs77]

Quote: (Originally Posted by creediscool17)

seriously... why do you care if creed is on charts like billboard or amazon or whatever. it doesn't mean anything. miley cyrus and the jonas brothers have had several number one hits... does that mean their good? the best bands these days do not occupy the charts, because they don't care about charts, they care about making good music. coldplay sells way more records than radiohead, yet they owe all their success to radiohead because their basically a cheap ripoff of them.

charts, sales, and publicity mean nothing now. like i said... miley cyrus. no matter what you find on creed about their chart positions or album sales just remember miley cyrus has at least doubled it, and im sure nickelback has as well, (and their terrible). lets just talk about the integrity of the music, that is fine enough for me.

-Ok
-LOL....Nikelback has sold that many albums over the course of like 6 or 7 albums as where Creed did it in three
-Miley Cirrus and Jonas Brothers sell records because they enjoy the backing of Disney's media monster..Do you know how many people watch the Disney Channel or visit the Theme Parks...Hahaha...if Creed dropped songs with Disneys help they would go quadruple platinum..;p;

[nagpo]

Quote: (Originally Posted by King Oropher)

I'd like to see the boys get more No.1s to add to the rest.
I feel Full Circle will go platinum.

I really hope so. I wan't them to sell as much as they used to. MOP and Weathered both sold 6 mil. I'd be satisfied if Full Circle did as well.

[revisfoot]

Guys, let's be realistic -- this album will sell 1-2 million, TOPS. The music industry is so much different today than it was in 2000-2002. They won't sell 6 million records again, it's just not going to happen.

[nagpo]

Im going to remain optimistic. I'm not saying it will but I hope it will.

[creediscool17]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tremontiriffs77)

-Ok
-LOL....Nikelback has sold that many albums over the course of like 6 or 7 albums as where Creed did it in three
-Miley Cirrus and Jonas Brothers sell records because they enjoy the backing of Disney's media monster..Do you know how many people watch the Disney Channel or visit the Theme Parks...Hahaha...if Creed dropped songs with Disneys help they would go quadruple platinum..;p;

ok you obviously missed the point of the post. i dont know exactly how many albums nickelback has sold, what i do know is that i haven't turned on the radio in the last 10 years without hearing one of their new awful songs on the radio in constant rotation. they have seriously released a new song every 2 months for the last 8-10 years or however they've been around.

my point was that record sales mean nothing, absolutely nothing. mastodon released an incredible album this year called "crack the skye" that sold maybe a few hundred thousand copies, does that mean that it sucks? no, that means that it just doesn't appeal to a large mass of people. like i said, coldplay sells way more records than radiohead, what do you have to say about that? please don't tell me you think coldplay is better than radiohead, or you have no absolutely no credibility in the music world.

oh by the way, nickelback sold about as many albums as creed, they have released 6 albums but their newest one, "dark horse" is their 4th since silver side up, which was their breakthrough album, before that no one even knew who they were. theyve basically sold the same as creed.

[pricey.21]

How are Nickelback rubbish though? Latest album isn't brilliant but the others are.

[Redeemer]

Oh god, Nickelback. But anyway, record sales are going to become more and more unreliable in determining a band's worth. Think about how many people are downloading albums instead of going to the CD store (are there even music stores still open? All the ones in NYC are shutting down) or Amazon.com or the iTunes store and actually buying a copy. So there might be, oh, say, nearly a million (random figure) people who are fans of said band, but they just did not buy the album for whatever reason they choose.

That is a demographic that takes away from album sales. So sure, back in the early 2000's, Creed went double platinum or whatever y'all say (I really do not keep track of such stats so I am piggybacking here). But if 'Full Circle' does not reach the same heights, there are likely two possible reasons -- 1) people stopped giving a shit or 2) more people downloaded the album than bought it.

So maybe chart positions really do not mean shit, despite whatever the thread-starter said about Nickelback.

[creed_fdj83]

I personally think Nickelback is trash, but I'm sure there are some bands that I like that others think suck.

[pricey.21]

Yes probably, but it's the same with anyone really. I've seen Nickelback 3 times now and they're a good band but im not much for the singles they bring out and thats why most people don't like them.

[nickmiller71]

The new album will sell probably 2 million tops. It will probably take about a year or a little more for it to go platinum. The music industry and sales figures are so much different than what they were when Creed entered the scene. When Creed made it big, they were the cat's meow. Their sound was new, fresh, and appealing to a large audience. Now that kids like Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift have literally taken over the industry recently, Creed and bands like them obviously aren't in "fashion" any longer. Let's just forget about the sales and focus on the music, because at this point in the game, nothing else really matters anymore. No matter who you are as a musician nowadays, you're going to have to face the simple fact that you're not going to be able to top the new pop princesses and princes because the bulk of music sales will continue to go to them.

[BSC]

Quote: (Originally Posted by creediscool17)

ok you obviously missed the point of the post. i dont know exactly how many albums nickelback has sold, what i do know is that i haven't turned on the radio in the last 10 years without hearing one of their new awful songs on the radio in constant rotation. they have seriously released a new song every 2 months for the last 8-10 years or however they've been around.

my point was that record sales mean nothing, absolutely nothing. mastodon released an incredible album this year called "crack the skye" that sold maybe a few hundred thousand copies, does that mean that it sucks? no, that means that it just doesn't appeal to a large mass of people. like i said, coldplay sells way more records than radiohead, what do you have to say about that? please don't tell me you think coldplay is better than radiohead, or you have no absolutely no credibility in the music world.

oh by the way, nickelback sold about as many albums as creed, they have released 6 albums but their newest one, "dark horse" is their 4th since silver side up, which was their breakthrough album, before that no one even knew who they were. theyve basically sold the same as creed.

If you don't know how many albums Nickelback have sold then why state that they've doubled Creed's figures? Also in your last paragraph you say Nickelback have sold about as many albums as Creed, but once again, why did you say they doubled Creed's figures in your first post?

Oh, and they've actually released 8 albums.

Hesher
Curb
The State
Silver Side Up
The Long Road
Three Sided Coin
All The Right Reasons
Dark Horse

[Icedmofo]

The sad thing about creed returning is that they brought all the immature trollers back to the forums lol.